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      Bill Meltzer
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      Bill Meltzer
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      Bill Meltzer
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      Flyers_01
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      Flyers Open Training Camp: The rope is gone
      Day One of the Flyers first training camp under Rick Tocchet had one big difference from past Philly camps or the current camps in Ottawa and other cities. Tocchet and his staff introduced systems concepts right off the bat. There was no bag skate (coaches prefer “conditioning skate”) to be seen: no suicides (line-to-line wind sprints), no endless laps and, most strikingly, no rope down the middle of the ice.

      “We’re actually getting into some systems, and playing hockey. It’s different than using a rope and skating laps, that’s for sure,” team captain Sean Couturier said.

      “It goes with me everywhere,” Tortorella said with a smile. “I’ve been fired a few times; I always ask for the rope back when I’m out the door.”

      It doesn’t hurt that under the new CBA rules (taking effect next year) the rope test is illegal but now Torts can tug at his rope all he wants in his house. Torts coaching methods where he was abusive to players (which crossed the line) should’ve been made illegal long ago but the Flyers love that stuff.

      It’s a refreshing take from Coots regarding the new coaches and makes you wonder why the Flyers kept doubling down on Torts until Torts eventually fired himself. Working on getting everyone on the same page with the new system and prioritizing the AHL team being on the same page as the big club sounds like such a basic thing but for the Flyers it’s never even occurred to them until now.

      I’m not saying the Flyers will be any better this year, there’s still a huge talent and development gap to make up (plus the hype around Tocchet’s record is more aspirational than factual), but it sounds like there’s actually adults in the room this year rather than a petulant child who airs grievances and whose main coaching tool is to play harder, not smarter.

      The best thing to happen to this team in 3 years is Torts quitting on the Flyers because DB/Jonesy were prepared to ride it all the way down.

    • #28416
      yes its me 2050
      Participant

      Flyers Open Training Camp: The rope is gone
      Day One of the Flyers first training camp under Rick Tocchet had one big difference from past Philly camps or the current camps in Ottawa and other cities. Tocchet and his staff introduced systems concepts right off the bat. There was no bag skate (coaches prefer “conditioning skate”) to be seen: no suicides (line-to-line wind sprints), no endless laps and, most strikingly, no rope down the middle of the ice.

      “We’re actually getting into some systems, and playing hockey. It’s different than using a rope and skating laps, that’s for sure,” team captain Sean Couturier said.

      “It goes with me everywhere,” Tortorella said with a smile. “I’ve been fired a few times; I always ask for the rope back when I’m out the door.”

      It doesn’t hurt that under the new CBA rules (taking effect next year) the rope test is illegal but now Torts can tug at his rope all he wants in his house. Torts coaching methods where he was abusive to players (which crossed the line) should’ve been made illegal long ago but the Flyers love that stuff.

      It’s a refreshing take from Coots regarding the new coaches and makes you wonder why the Flyers kept doubling down on Torts until Torts eventually fired himself. Working on getting everyone on the same page with the new system and prioritizing the AHL team being on the same page as the big club sounds like such a basic thing but for the Flyers it’s never even occurred to them until now.

      I’m not saying the Flyers will be any better this year, there’s still a huge talent and development gap to make up, but it sounds like there’s actually adults in the room this year rather than a petulant child who airs grievances and whose main coaching tool is to play harder, not smarter.

      The best thing to happen to this team in 3 years is Torts quitting on the Flyers because DB/Jonesy were prepared to ride it all the way down.

      so funny danny wanted to keep torts. speaks volumes to me.

      would really love to know who the main driver was in hiring him as I believe 100% it was not fletcher. that farce of a consulting firm making the recommendation is priceless.

      still shocked torts has not said 1 word over what went down. guess still hopes for 1 more job doesnt want to seal his fate lashing out.

    • #28425
      Flyers_01
      Participant

      so funny danny wanted to keep torts. speaks volumes to me.

      would really love to know who the main driver was in hiring him as I believe 100% it was not fletcher. that farce of a consulting firm making the recommendation is priceless.

      still shocked torts has not said 1 word over what went down. guess still hopes for 1 more job doesnt want to seal his fate lashing out.

      This is going to set off some people who despite all evidence would rather wash out their eyes with acid than believe what they show them but : Bobby Clarke

      Flyers Hire John Tortorella As New Head Coach

      Senior executives Bobby Clarke and Paul Holmgren reportedly preferred Tortorella against other candidates such as Barry Trotz, Bruce Cassidy, and Jim Montgomery. Bill Meltzer described that the two former Flyers had a “background role in the ultimate decision” for the hire. Other reports suggested that Fletcher wasn’t entirely set on the hire. Although the level of influence from all parties won’t become entirely clear in the near future, the organization now has its fiery head coach looking to restore the success of a fallen franchise.

    • #28426
      yes its me 2050
      Participant

      hiring torts set the orgin-eye-zation back many years.

      has any team wasted more money on coaches than the flyers in recent years?

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