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  • #10331
    Bill Meltzer
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    Pass on at 6. What’s he actually DONE when healthy that screams “This is a future number one center”? I know the tools. I know about his frame. But it’s all in flashes. Then add the back injury. Then add fact he’s a late year birthday first-time draft candidate. Not at 6. 16 yes.

    #10317
    molonosoff
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    What are your thoughts on Roger McQueen and whether he’s worth the 6th overall pick? Just reading what people on TSN and others with knowledge have said about him, he’s got tremendous upside. I love his size, but my fear is the injury history. Doing drills at the combine is one thing. Getting through an entire season healthy is another.

    #10313
    Bill Meltzer
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    #10280
    Trox88
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    I do believe Briere will use at least 5 of those 7 picks in the first two rounds for prospects. Some of those picks can be stashed in Europe as they develop- KHL in particular. Two MHL goalies are ranked in this draft class- Andraeyanov and Frolov. Kurban Limatov is a LHD with good size in the MHL also.

    #10157
    Bill Meltzer
    Keymaster

    #10155
    VonZipper
    Participant

    If the Flyers want to now copy FLA by getting significantly bigger, then why focus on speed earlier in the Briere era? The Panthers are at best an average skating speed team. Briere traded one of his best assets in the organization (Gauthier) for a small Dman. Re signed a small forward long term in TK. Only 1st round pick he has selected over 6’0 ft tall Bonk. I like O’Brien over Desnoyers, it is close. There is a gap for me with Hagens above those two.

    All that being written, it would be quite a moment if Briere goes with McQueen for the ultimate boom or bust pick. — Trox88

    Simple answer… they Flyers have a long-standing habit of chasing Cups that have already been won. It’s the main reason why they’ve lacked identity for so long.

    While I get that every league is a copy-cat league, the Flyers seem to take it to extremes. We want to emulate the Blues. We need speedy guys. We need guys that can skate. We’re suddenly too small and need to get bigger. It’s hard to have a plan for success when what you want to be changes every year.

    A franchise that once set the trend now chases every trend, yet can’t figure out why success eludes them.

    #10152
    Trox88
    Participant

    If the Flyers want to now copy FLA by getting significantly bigger, then why focus on speed earlier in the Briere era? The Panthers are at best an average skating speed team. Briere traded one of his best assets in the organization (Gauthier) for a small Dman. Re signed a small forward long term in TK. Only 1st round pick he has selected over 6’0 ft tall Bonk. I like O’Brien over Desnoyers, it is close. There is a gap for me with Hagens above those two.

    All that being written, it would be quite a moment if Briere goes with McQueen for the ultimate boom or bust pick.

    #10146
    yes its me 2050
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    I would argue the Flyers have not won in 50 years because of lack of evaluation for goaltending. Clarke believed the team could carry a goaltender and was more dependent on the team in front of him. Cats have a stud in goal and dedicated the cap space to secure his services. Been a very long time since the Flyers have played a goaltender who was even a fringe Vezina candidate. The position present day looks bleak and with some hope way into the future. I hope there is more to the plan.

    I hope Briere does not bypass Hagens because of lack of size. If the organization has an abundance of small forwards, just trade the small forwards who are not as good as Hagens for other assets. I cannot fathom not drafting Hagens because the Flyers already have Brink, Barkey, Michkov, and TK in the organization. Draft prospects who have a realistic chance to be elite.

    it isnt just one thing. it is cumulative. goalie a big part of it. Sadly when you look at who the flyers lost too, they were fn dynasties. Doesn’t excuse the loss mind you.

    Briere has loved Hagans for 2 years. Thinks he can be the #1 franchise center. Do not think that has changed. No can they get him? What’s mind boggling knowing he loves him so much they didn’t put themselves in the best position to draft him.

    I just do not trust the flyers drafting war room. After the #6 I think they are going to go for size size and more size with other picks. Even though they are years away. I want them to take risk to get high end talent not the safe will play in the nhl type.

    outside of MM and TK those other small players are bit parts who you should have problem moving on from at any time.

    I agree it does look bleak for the next 4-5 years. unless 100% luck falls their way.

    #10140
    Trox88
    Participant

    I would argue the Flyers have not won in 50 years because of lack of evaluation for goaltending. Clarke believed the team could carry a goaltender and was more dependent on the team in front of him. Cats have a stud in goal and dedicated the cap space to secure his services. Been a very long time since the Flyers have played a goaltender who was even a fringe Vezina candidate. The position present day looks bleak and with some hope way into the future. I hope there is more to the plan.

    I hope Briere does not bypass Hagens because of lack of size. If the organization has an abundance of small forwards, just trade the small forwards who are not as good as Hagens for other assets. I cannot fathom not drafting Hagens because the Flyers already have Brink, Barkey, Michkov, and TK in the organization. Draft prospects who have a realistic chance to be elite.

    #10138
    yes its me 2050
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    Yeah. SKILL being the operative word here. The Flyers haven’t won anything in 50 years because they don’t prioritize skill over any other trait. Florida has size but they also have tons of skill.

    hope they take the safe 200 ft player as can never have enough of those.

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