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Sorry, zero faith in Matthews.
He has been as bad, or worse, than Marner in the playoffs. How he gets a free pass, year after year is ridiculous.Cause he’s a center that use to score a lot….just not a lot in the playoffs.
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“Why does that matter? He’s scored 100 points per 82 games 5 years in a row.”Sorry, this isnt a thing.
Points for everyone is measured by the season, not by some random 82 game chunk.
Marner hasnt played a full 82 game season since 2017
He’s only ever hit 100pts ONCE in a season….sure he had seasons where he was on pace for more than 100pts…..but the reality is….he didnt finish with 100pts.players are not totally taxed based on the Team/city that they play for, the 41 home games are and the rest are taxed based on where the game is played and a whole bunch of other stuff.
Do players on teams in no-state-tax areas gain a massive financial advantage?
There are six teams in the NHL that play in cities that do not levy a state income tax. These teams are the Florida Panthers, Tampa Bay Lightning, Nashville Predators, Seattle Kraken, Vegas Golden Knights and Dallas Stars. Undoubtedly, this is a financial advantage for these players and is being used as a recruiting tool by these teams. However:Players on these teams still owe taxes for games played in other states and provinces.
For high earners, federal taxes (U.S. or Canadian) typically dwarf state taxes, meaning the state tax benefit is often overstated.Sorry, zero faith in Matthews. He has been as bad, or worse, than Marner in the playoffs. How he gets a free pass, year after year is ridiculous.
I’ll repeat these facts, again and again…
McDavid had 1 goal vs the Panthers this year. Kucherov, two years in a row vs the Panthers, 0 goals. The Panthers have been THAT GOOD at shutting down the absolute elite of elite players.
And the Leafs still took them to Game 7. Won 3 games because of the 1st line, Knies, Matthews and Marner, 1 GWG each.
Ovechkin has made it beyond the 2nd round ONCE in his entire career. Same goes for MacKinnon. The greatest goal scorer to ever live, Ovechkin, has ONE Cup and it took him 13 years to get it.
Winning a Cup is the most difficult team trophy to win in sports for a reason. It’s been many years of failure for the Leafs, as individuals and as a team but their window will only shut if they close it on themselves by giving up on the best players they’ve had in 58 years and not giving them the correct supporting cast.
The Leafs got lucky with two amazing players in Matthews in Marner but then got astronomically unlucky when they both demanded massive contract overpays that made it impossible to complete with the Florida’s of the world.
Blame the city and the country they live in with their absurdly high taxes. Players and their agents don’t give a fuck what the cap hit is. They care about what they take home. Every. Single. One.
This idea of “overpayment” is insane. If a player makes 12 AAV in Vegas, he needs to make 16.5 AAV in Toronto to go home with the same money.
Matthews at least has the benefit of getting paid in signing bonuses to avoid the taxes. Marner doesn’t have that benefit. If the Leafs had got him his US citizenship, then he could have used the same loophole and maybe that’s what the Leafs need to start doing to be able to avoid the taxes and keep an even playing field with their divisional competitors.
The Leafs got lucky with two amazing players in Matthews in Marner but then got astronomically unlucky when they both demanded massive contract overpays that made it impossible to complete with the Florida’s of the world.
Oh, believe me, I want Rielly gone as well. Tavares doesn’t impress me much either. Both are soft and both don’t show up when it counts. The only one that I disagree with is Matthews. The guy has multiple Rocket Richard trophies, plays a 200 foot game, plus wins faceoffs. If he indeed played hurt all year, he did well to get the goals that he got. I noticed that there was no zip on his shots, this year, but with proper rest and therapy, he’ll probably hit 50 next year, regardless who he’s playing with. I’d like to see Brock Boeser on his wing and see where that goes. The rest can pack up and take their dog and pony show to the great unknown of Utah or Minnesota.-Prince
Sorry, zero faith in Matthews.
He has been as bad, or worse, than Marner in the playoffs. How he gets a free pass, year after year is ridiculous.You are more tolerant than me.
I wanted them all (rielly matthews marner nylander tavares) out, get some picks and started the F over. I don’t think you can afford to have any of them making 8 figures and ice a winning team.Oh, believe me, I want Rielly gone as well. Tavares doesn’t impress me much either. Both are soft and both don’t show up when it counts. The only one that I disagree with is Matthews. The guy has multiple Rocket Richard trophies, plays a 200 foot game, plus wins faceoffs. If he indeed played hurt all year, he did well to get the goals that he got. I noticed that there was no zip on his shots, this year, but with proper rest and therapy, he’ll probably hit 50 next year, regardless who he’s playing with. I’d like to see Brock Boeser on his wing and see where that goes. The rest can pack up and take their dog and pony show to the great unknown of Utah or Minnesota.
Matthews has scored (regular season) no matter who has played with – kappenen, brown, Johnsson, Hyman, domi/bert (that was super small sample but point stands). Babs barely played him with Marner and he still got 40+.
So playing with Marner may be the difference between probably (cause nobody actually knows) 60-65 goals vs 45-50? I’m sure with a better roster composition the Leafs players and fans would rather 34 get less regular goals and have a better playoff ready winger to roll with cone the time it matters.
Why does scoring 40 goals matters? Really? Cause they win games. Willy gets them Marner doesn’t. Marner has an advantage of playing with the best scorer since Ovi. So in my opinion Mitch gets 70-80pts without 34 and still disappears come playoff time when it matters.Again with the most insanely stupid take on that goal 34 scored. There was no pressure caused by Marner. The dman coughed up a puck on a bad pass and Mitch was right there. He did absolutely nothing but get a puck that bounced off boards to him , turned and passed it 2 unobstructed feet. Even someone who can’t play like UG or AA could make that pass. I’ve explained in great detail this play. You and that huge IQ don’t remember?
You are boring now. Stupid shit on repeat and you don’t even remember being proven wrong…or as I suspect – your fantasy you live in your mind chooses to forget you’re a fat slob who can’t skate in a basement, telling people your opinion is fact.
How many grammar and spelling mistakes?
You are more tolerant than me.
I wanted them all (rielly matthews marner nylander tavares) out, get some picks and started the F over. I don’t think you can afford to have any of them making 8 figures and ice a winning team.Sure, blow it up. Start over again. Good luck finding another guy to lead the league in goals and a 100 point running mate for him to play with.
The Leafs absolutely suck at building a team through the draft. By some miracle, they tanked and drafted very high, very often. They got very talented players fall right in their lap.
The odds of the Leafs being able to do that all over again without fucking it up are astronomically bad. They’d probably have to rebuild for 20 years to get back to where they are now knowing their track record of failure.
This situation can still be salvaged. Ovechkin took 13 years to win a Cup. And has only got past the 2nd round once in his career; the one time he won a Cup. If it was that difficult for a player like Ovechkin to succeed in the playoffs, then this group of guys (Matthews, Marner, Nylander and now Knies) needs to continue to be given more chances because it’s still the best this franchise will have for a very, very long time.
There’s still far too many Leafs fans that have this attitude about these guys as if they were promised to win 5 Cups in a row and become a dynasty. No. There are 32 teams, the divisional playoffs are detrimental to this franchise at the moment and winning four rounds is very, very difficult. These guys have not succeeded yet and that’s justifiably frustrating but it’s a long process to win a Cup in the NHL.
