Final Destination – Mitch Marner??

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  • #11116
    23BigQuestions
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    Bud is so dumb eh – you have been on here saying Tavares wasn’t even good in his prime you goof. Made Team Canada Olympic team. Facts.

    Marner never won a Selke – he was nominated by media crazy Toronto writers – who like you spell check online posts on a hockey forum cause that their flex (as it typically is with those who can’t even skate let alone played the game).

    Marner reached 100pts once. Just now. Marner was responsible for a GWG by floating a knuckles on net blind and it found its way in. Oh and as I skooled you before (school with a K to give you something to say back), Marner did dick all but shovel a 2foot pass through nothing and nobody then 34 did all the work as usual and scored giving bitchy a primary point.

    What are mitchys points on later games in the series? You know when it gets more physical and intense? Oh that’s right – the Magic Man pulls his disappearing act – like the rest of the core of this team. Problem is most people around here can admit to Willy being soft, not performing when it counts etc. you and your butt buddy just can’t do that cause of your fanboy crush.

    #11114
    dmnted
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    And yet has more career playoff points than everybody on the team so clearly the stupidity is in the complimentary pieces they keep failing to acquire.

    sure he does in games 1-4 but after that is a bunch of 0 goals and what 8 assist! For a player making top dollar in the league, should be able to perform a whole lot better than that.

    #11112
    dmnted
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    Marner directly helped win 2 of them with a GWG and a primary assist to Matthews

    those primary assist you speak of are week one.
    one shovel pass to Matthews at the center of ice line from the Leafs blue line and he rips it home as he crossed FLA blue line.
    I don’t even remember the second one, that how ghostly it was.

    #11102
    Unholy_Goalie
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    If somebody just looks at points like a video game and measures a players impact game to game like that – they know not what they watch (cough UG cough). But if they insist:

    Willy be Bitchy Mitchy playoffs this year:

    Willy
    GP — 13
    G – 6
    A – 9
    Pts – 15

    Greedy Brat
    GP – 13
    G – 2
    A – 11
    Pts – 13

    Also reg season +/- one was +10 the other +18…again a useless stat but just trying to reach the undereducated hockey fan who looks at the game stats first – like they want the season played in a simulator because they don’t get in game impacts.

    Marner is certainly the better all around player but not by much at all. Maybe a $500K per season difference. Mitch kills penalties? Cool so do 4th liners. Hardly a reason to pay a WINGER who doesn’t score that much cash. Mitch is not good 5v5 defensively. He makes poor decisions with puck in own zone (as noted by d zone giveaways) and has a hard time reading off rushes, and on top of all that, is so incredibly weak that he is absolutely useless in the drone at winning puck battles. In fact he rarely gets involved because he is timid…like Willy.

    Mitch is a phenomenal at anticipation. That’s what make him both a very good offensive talent and very good pk player. Smart player.

    When was Nylander nominated for the Selke, faced 1st line competition 5v5 and scored at a 100 point per 82 game pace?

    Oh right, never.

    Did Nylander score a GWG and have a primary assist on a GWG vs Florida?

    Oh right, he disappeared vs. Florida after Game 3. -3 for the series, on the ice for the 2nd most goals against (12), after Tavares (14) playing against weaker competition.

    Claiming a future Hall of Fane player who made Team Canada (men’s teams) has net been good because he lacks major awards? So dumb.

    Because I’m so dumb, where can I find the Hall of Fane? Can’t seem to find it anywhere. Just like I couldn’t find Tavares on Team Canada for the 4 Nations. Was that Tavares who set up the OT GWG? Must have been.

    #11098
    23BigQuestions
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    ‘The Disappearing Puff’

    If somebody just looks at points like a video game and measures a players impact game to game like that – they know not what they watch (cough UG cough). But if they insist:

    Willy be Bitchy Mitchy playoffs this year:

    Willy
    GP — 13
    G – 6
    A – 9
    Pts – 15

    Greedy Brat
    GP – 13
    G – 2
    A – 11
    Pts – 13

    Also reg season +/- one was +10 the other +18…again a useless stat but just trying to reach the undereducated hockey fan who looks at the game stats first – like they want the season played in a simulator because they don’t get in game impacts.

    Marner is certainly the better all around player but not by much at all. Maybe a $500K per season difference. Mitch kills penalties? Cool so do 4th liners. Hardly a reason to pay a WINGER who doesn’t score that much cash. Mitch is not good 5v5 defensively. He makes poor decisions with puck in own zone (as noted by d zone giveaways) and has a hard time reading off rushes, and on top of all that, is so incredibly weak that he is absolutely useless in the drone at winning puck battles. In fact he rarely gets involved because he is timid…like Willy.

    Mitch is a phenomenal at anticipation. That’s what make him both a very good offensive talent and very good pk player. Smart player.

    Claiming a future Hall of Fane player who made Team Canada (men’s teams) has net been good because he lacks major awards? So dumb.

    #11085
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Fact is Marner has been part of the methods of stupidity in building a team.
    so overpay him again?

    doesnt make sense to say they suck a one thing then want them to do that same thing

    And yet has more career playoff points than everybody on the team so clearly the stupidity is in the complimentary pieces they keep failing to acquire.

    #11082
    senstrolltwo
    Participant

    Fact is Marner has been part of the methods of stupidity in building a team.
    so overpay him again?

    doesnt make sense to say they suck a one thing then want them to do that same thing

    #11081
    Unholy_Goalie
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    at what cost.? He disappears when the going get tough in the playoffs. This is fact.
    The current Leafs model has not work for the last decade in the playoffs. Time to change it up.

    It’s not actually a fact because this year against Florida, no other team won 3 games against them. Marner directly helped win 2 of them with a GWG and a primary assist to Matthews. That shows he’s a factor in winning games against the Champs. That’s a guy who is part of the solution, not the problem.

    Marner is not the perfect playoff beast. He’s not McDavid. But not even McDavid with his absurd scoring won the Cup and beat Florida, even with Draisaitl putting up the same absurd number of points.

    What Marner did do, however, was be part of the 1st line that was clearly, objectively, absolutely not part of the problem. They contained Florida’s top line defensively. And offensively, the Leafs 1st line scored ALL THREE GWGs vs Florida. You keep that line together and you improve the rest of the team by getting rid of the REAL problems like Tavares and Rielly. You could also negotiate a way to trade Nylander too but he’s in his prime so you can afford to keep him for now and still be okay so long as you get him two solid two-way players to make up for his defensive laziness.

    Making change for the sake of change makes no sense, especially when that change is one of your best players. That’s like having burnt out light bulbs in your house and changing the bulbs that are still working, hoping that the burnt out light bulbs will start working properly. It won’t work.

    Tavares and Rielly are the main problems. Make those REAL changes and actually improve the team.

    #11074
    dmnted
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    Marner, having more career playoff points and 5 straight seasons of 100 points per 82 games, is the better way to spend money.

    at what cost.? He disappears when the going get tough in the playoffs. This is fact.
    The current Leafs model has not work for the last decade in the playoffs. Time to change it up.

    #11072
    dmnted
    Participant

    The only debate is whether or not the Leafs are the ones giving that contract to Tavares (Mitchy is so far gone, I can’t even see him).

    I think JT is gone. He should be signed by now. Could he be looking for 3year deal worth 22.5M

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