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  • #51803
    Flyers4Ever
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    Every team has “nice” prospects. That doesn’t cut it.

    The path the flyers are on and have taken will lead to nowhere. There is no path to sustained cup contention. They continue to spin their wheels. They refuse to pick a path. Towing the middle of the road leaves you in the middle of the road. There is no savior on the way. No buying their way to cup contention via free agency. No one is trading you a #1 center or #1 Dman. They are a poorly run franchise.

    Yes, they are, or at least they have been. I don’t truly know what their current path is, it’s probably a fluid one, it’s definitely not a hard rebuild. Which I think they should do, but that requires a lot of losing for a consistent number of years. But as a fan, I’m ok with that.

    #51799
    yes its me 2050
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    its way too early to say danny boys drafts have been good or bad. so far only 2 players who were both high picks look to have a good nhl future. need a few more years to see how it plays out.

    either way you need elite level players to win. flyers lack that on the roster and the farm system.

    They have some nice prospects they’ve taken in the past three drafts, but yes, lets see how that plays out with those kids. And another yes, having elite talent helps you win Cups, no question, but in a salary cap world, 99.99% of the time you have to acquire them via the draft, which means you typically have to finish near the bottom of the league. As I said, you can’t have it both ways. Dallas doesn’t have any “superstars”, in my opinion, yes they have great players but they don’t have McDavid or MacKinnon on their team. They just slowly drafted well and they’ve been very competitive for awhile now. If you can’t get a superstar, be more like the Dallas Stars.

    Every team has “nice” prospects. That doesn’t cut it.

    The path the flyers are on and have taken will lead to nowhere. There is no path to sustained cup contention. They continue to spin their wheels. They refuse to pick a path. Towing the middle of the road leaves you in the middle of the road. There is no savior on the way. No buying their way to cup contention via free agency. No one is trading you a #1 center or #1 Dman. They are a poorly run franchise.

    #51797
    Flyers4Ever
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    its way too early to say danny boys drafts have been good or bad. so far only 2 players who were both high picks look to have a good nhl future. need a few more years to see how it plays out.

    either way you need elite level players to win. flyers lack that on the roster and the farm system.

    They have some nice prospects they’ve taken in the past three drafts, but yes, lets see how that plays out with those kids. And another yes, having elite talent helps you win Cups, no question, but in a salary cap world, 99.99% of the time you have to acquire them via the draft, which means you typically have to finish near the bottom of the league. As I said, you can’t have it both ways. Dallas doesn’t have any “superstars”, in my opinion, yes they have great players but they don’t have McDavid or MacKinnon on their team. They just slowly drafted well and they’ve been very competitive for awhile now. If you can’t get a superstar, be more like the Dallas Stars.

    #51795
    yes its me 2050
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    its way too early to say danny boys drafts have been good or bad. so far only 2 players who were both high picks look to have a good nhl future. need a few more years to see how it plays out.

    either way you need elite level players to win. flyers lack that on the roster and the farm system.

    #51792
    Flyers4Ever
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    based on what?

    they have 1 potential elite level propsect.1. the rest are nothing but depth types if they pan out. though thats what danny boy wants.

    “But like I said, when you’re not spending $12 million on a player, or even two like Edmonton does… Colorado has three or four high-end guys. We’re not going to be built that way. So depth will be important to us.”

    Based on the fact you don’t have to draft a superstar to have had a good draft, that’s just ridiculous. There’s 23 guys on a roster who need to contribute, but yes, the Flyers need a better players in all positions. Drafting 1st overall means you probably had a really bad year, but no, Flyers fans don’t want that, and when they do have a bad year, like last year, they deem management as failures. You can’t have it both ways. Drafting high means you have a bad team, but you have to void out the fan noise and just go through with it.

    #51772
    yes its me 2050
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    You may be right on DB and Jones but some are now questioning the, as you accurately call it, re-tool which has been misleadingly called a rebuild for 2.5 years. DB has been here for 3 off-seasons and 3 drafts, there’s a reason the center depth is nonexistant and he’s the reason. Jett is projected to be a 3rd line center and that is his crown jewel. How can they be headed in the right direction when their only plan for addressing the hard positions which DB has neglected is praying to the heavens that a franchise center or franchise Dman are available for trade, the Flyers are able to make the best offer, and they want to come here? Good luck. Doesn’t sound so much different than Fletcher. Hayes was the best center available at the time and they paid whatever it took to get him. Does DBs plan sound much different?

    Well, let me start by saying, three years in the grand scheme of things, isn’t a long timeline. Secondly, he was promoted to full time GM in May of 2023, since then they’ve done well in the draft given their draft positions, they’ve acquired some good young talent and they tried to maximize their number of picks. If they get two players from any one draft, they’ve done well. Michkkov, Bonk, Bjarnason and Barkley are good picks, but the later three need time to develop. I think Jack Berglund is going to surprise people when he eventually comes over, he’s only 19 years old and still developing, same with Luchanko just turned 19 in late August, he’s got lots of time to develop into even a middle six player. All the kids from the 2025 draft are just that, young kids, let them soak and develop. Everyone is impatient, I get that, the team has been shit and poorly ran for a long time. I’m hopeful, but I’m almost 60 years old, so experience tells me to be patient and see where they go with this. There wasn’t exactly anyone at the center position screaming out “TAKE ME” when they were picking in the draft, you can’t make up stuff that isn’t there.

    based on what?

    they have 1 potential elite level propsect.1. the rest are nothing but depth types if they pan out. though thats what danny boy wants.

    “But like I said, when you’re not spending $12 million on a player, or even two like Edmonton does… Colorado has three or four high-end guys. We’re not going to be built that way. So depth will be important to us.”

    #51768
    Flyers4Ever
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    You may be right on DB and Jones but some are now questioning the, as you accurately call it, re-tool which has been misleadingly called a rebuild for 2.5 years. DB has been here for 3 off-seasons and 3 drafts, there’s a reason the center depth is nonexistant and he’s the reason. Jett is projected to be a 3rd line center and that is his crown jewel. How can they be headed in the right direction when their only plan for addressing the hard positions which DB has neglected is praying to the heavens that a franchise center or franchise Dman are available for trade, the Flyers are able to make the best offer, and they want to come here? Good luck. Doesn’t sound so much different than Fletcher. Hayes was the best center available at the time and they paid whatever it took to get him. Does DBs plan sound much different?

    Well, let me start by saying, three years in the grand scheme of things, isn’t a long timeline. Secondly, he was promoted to full time GM in May of 2023, since then they’ve done well in the draft given their draft positions, they’ve acquired some good young talent and they tried to maximize their number of picks. If they get two players from any one draft, they’ve done well. Michkkov, Bonk, Bjarnason and Barkley are good picks, but the later three need time to develop. I think Jack Berglund is going to surprise people when he eventually comes over, he’s only 19 years old and still developing, same with Luchanko just turned 19 in late August, he’s got lots of time to develop into even a middle six player. All the kids from the 2025 draft are just that, young kids, let them soak and develop. Everyone is impatient, I get that, the team has been shit and poorly ran for a long time. I’m hopeful, but I’m almost 60 years old, so experience tells me to be patient and see where they go with this. There wasn’t exactly anyone at the center position screaming out “TAKE ME” when they were picking in the draft, you can’t make up stuff that isn’t there.

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    #51745
    Flyers_01
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    There is zero chance Jones and Briere are going anywhere, any time soon. They’re just starting the process of re-tooling the club and building some youth through the draft. Is there a long ways to go, yes, absolutely, their center depth is almost nonexistent, but they’re heading in the right direction with youth. Aren’t the Flyers one of the youngest teams in the league?

    You may be right on DB and Jones but some are now questioning the, as you accurately call it, re-tool which has been misleadingly called a rebuild for 2.5 years. DB has been here for 3 offeseasons and 3 drafts, there’s a reason the center depth is nonexistant and he’s the reason. Jett is projected to be a 3rd line center and that is his crown jewel. How can they be headed in the right direction when their only plan for addressing the hard positions which DB has neglected is praying to the heavens that a franchise center or franchise Dman are available for trade, the Flyers are able to make the best offer, and they want to come here? Good luck. Doesn’t sound so much different than Fletcher. Hayes was the best center available at the time and they paid whatever it took to get him. Does DBs plan sound much different?

    #51619
    Flyers4Ever
    Participant

    Couturier with a point-blank opportunity last night and he passes it into the corner…LOL…is this where his game is at right now? That was embarrassing on his part, Jezuz!!

    #51617
    Flyers4Ever
    Participant

    your nuts to think this regime is near the end. they have plenty of run way left imo

    There is zero chance Jones and Briere are going anywhere, any time soon. They’re just starting the process of re-tooling the club and building some youth through the draft. Is there a long ways to go, yes, absolutely, their center depth is almost nonexistent, but they’re heading in the right direction with youth. Aren’t the Flyers one of the youngest teams in the league?

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