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  • #39067
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    after “rebuilding” the last 3 years this is the roster. job well done.

    – zamula hasn’t taken that next step and may never will. if you can get a mid rd pick for him I do it.

    – seeing where the flyers are at, they need to stop worrying about size and fit. Andrae should be on that bottom pair as he has more upside than the rest. he was nhl ready a year ago flahr was touting.

    – carrying 8 dman is a joke if they go that route. is it to save face and not have to cut gilbert or juulson?

    – if you’re going to keep ginnnig then play him, unless flat out awful, and live with his mistakes.

    – JD trade looking better and better. not even karl dykhuis level. if he keeps up his inconsistent play, will they re-sign him to save face?

    – tippet contract will not be a good one. you do not give non-core players 8 years.

    – goaltending will keep the ship sinking. really don’t see vlader helping. he was on a better team last year and put up below average numbers.

    – at what point do you cut bait with ersson. he also needs a new contract at years end. should have taken a shot with askarov when he was available

    – boucher is unbearable on the home telecast. at least he thinks the jett should go back to juniors.

    flyers fans thinking this team has a “shot” for the playoffs is hysterical.

    I don’t think carrying 8 dmen is ever a great look for a team. It sends the message that you don’t have enough quality forwards to dress and for a team in year 3 of a rebuild that should be showcasing young forward talent, it sends the message you have failed in your job. I don’t think you will see the Blackhawks carrying 8 defensemen when they finalize their roster.

    Unless you have a Dominik Hasek, the majority of the goalies will not look good behind a bad defense. A point the Flyers have never addressed in a practical manner. The goalies get all the blame but the defensive core, which on average has been below average, generally gets a pass. And no, being on the Flyers top 4 doesn’t make you a top defenseman in the league.

    https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-current-players-ranked-top-20-defensemen-2025

    You aren’t going to see a Flyers defenseman anywhere near that list. No one in the system is even projected to ever be on that list. If you aren’t going to have great goaltending, you need great defense and the Flyers have neither. The Flyers were the #1 team in the league in blocked shots but near the bottom in many advanced stats and it’s hard to argue that they have improved from the team that got Fletcher fired other than this front office is much better at controlling the media.

    The team just spent 3 years trying to play harder, not smarter. Blocking a puck with your face is better than making a good outlet pass, etc.

    Play the younger guys and live with the mistakes, you can’t have players walking on eggshells, like they have been for the last 3 years. The Flyers FO has done the players a huge disservice and the 2 survivors aren’t going to accept any blame.

    Coots : Couturier said the following about the team’s ineffective power play: “It was almost like, the last couple years, guys were scared to make plays and get pulled off [the power play]. It’s not quite, I think, the mentality or philosophy you want to have going into a power play and trying to score a goal, when you’re scared to make plays.”

    Is it any wonder the team building failed under Torts/Jones/DB?

    #39062
    yes its me 2050
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    after “rebuilding” the last 3 years this is the roster. job well done.

    – zamula hasn’t taken that next step and may never will. if you can get a mid rd pick for him I do it.

    – seeing where the flyers are at, they need to stop worrying about size and fit. Andrae should be on that bottom pair as he has more upside than the rest. he was nhl ready a year ago flahr was touting.

    – carrying 8 dman is a joke if they go that route. is it to save face and not have to cut gilbert or juulson?

    – if you’re going to keep ginnnig then play him, unless flat out awful, and live with his mistakes.

    – JD trade looking better and better. not even karl dykhuis level. if he keeps up his inconsistent play, will they re-sign him to save face?

    – tippet contract will not be a good one. you do not give non-core players 8 years.

    – goaltending will keep the ship sinking. really don’t see vlader helping. he was on a better team last year and put up below average numbers.

    – at what point do you cut bait with ersson. he also needs a new contract at years end. should have taken a shot with askarov when he was available

    – boucher is unbearable on the home telecast. at least he thinks the jett should go back to juniors.

    flyers fans thinking this team has a “shot” for the playoffs is hysterical.

    #38978
    yes its me 2050
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    #38973
    yes its me 2050
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    That was quite the word salad by Tocchet. It was like a high schooler asked to give a report on a book he hadn’t read. Let’s hope Charlie’s take is wrong and the choice isn’t Jett over Abols.

    love the all about “consistency” part”. guess winning a job on merit is not the way.

    #38971
    Flyers_01
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    https://x.com/charlieo_conn/status/1973444695746552262?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1973444695746552262%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

    That was quite the word salad by Tocchet. It was like a high schooler asked to give a report on a book he hadn’t read. Let’s hope Charlie’s take is wrong and the choice isn’t Jett over Abols.

    #38968
    yes its me 2050
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    #38965
    Flyers_01
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    that piece is a joke as no way bonk starts on the flyers for a variety of reasons.

    on a side not sure how any real flyers fan can have faith/optimism with this team, farm system, and management to get them to “contending” status.

    The article may be over the top but isn’t that far off from other puff pieces the Flyers are putting out there. He’ll start in the AHL but it may just be to get in shape. At least that seems to be the message from a number of outlets. Hopefully he spends the year in the AHL regardless of how bad the big club defense is player development needs to come first during a ‘rebuild’.

    yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/flyers_top_prospect_out_week_to_week_with_upper_body_injury/s1_14825_42831115

    Head coach Rick Tocchet has reportedly become disenfranchised with the available defense options, telling NHL contributor Bill Meltzer that nobody has stepped up enough to grab one of the team’s bubble spots on defense.
    Should that disappointing play continue into the first few weeks of the regular season, the Flyers could conceivably use Bonk’s first few games with the Phantoms as a makeshift training camp. If he excels through the first few weeks, Philadelphia could recall him for an opportunity at the NHL level.

    #38952
    yes its me 2050
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    Hard to earn a spot from the hot tub but it is the Flyers.

    From the article :

    In fact, he might be in the running simply by having not played.

    That’s not to say Bonk will hit the ground running and establish himself as an outstanding rookie defenseman immediately. Yet, the average to rather uninspiring play from some of the blueliners not in the top two pairs has Bonk with a chance. Bonk might end up with the Flyers as soon as he’s physically ready to play.

    It’s basically saying the Flyers defense is so bad that you don’t have to earn a spot to make the big club, you just have to be breathing. It doesn’t sound like some things have improved at all since Torts left but they still have that patented Flyers Stanley Cup winning culture to build around although the closest they’ve been to the cup is watching it on TV.

    If training camp doesn’t matter, you know what this means? Jett has a chance to make the big club!

    that piece is a joke as no way bonk starts on the flyers for a variety of reasons.

    on a side not sure how any real flyers fan can have faith/optimism with this team, farm system, and management to get them to “contending” status.

    #38951
    Flyers_01
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    Hard to earn a spot from the hot tub but it is the Flyers.

    From the article :

    In fact, he might be in the running simply by having not played.

    That’s not to say Bonk will hit the ground running and establish himself as an outstanding rookie defenseman immediately. Yet, the average to rather uninspiring play from some of the blueliners not in the top two pairs has Bonk with a chance. Bonk might end up with the Flyers as soon as he’s physically ready to play.

    It’s basically saying the Flyers defense is so bad that you don’t have to earn a spot to make the big club, you just have to be breathing. It doesn’t sound like some things have improved at all since Torts left but they still have that patented Flyers Stanley Cup winning culture to build around although the closest they’ve been to the cup is watching it on TV.

    If training camp doesn’t matter, you know what this means? Jett has a chance to make the big club!

    #38949
    yes its me 2050
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    Bonk out another 2 weeks. Does anyone even know what his specific injury is? As usual Flyers injury updates are useless and of course he went from day-to-day to week-to-week so that’s not great.

    Oliver Bonk could still earn spot on Flyers’ blue line once healthy

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