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May 16, 2025 at 1:06 pm #5280
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There is talk that Marner has already decided to leave and Matthews is injured and that explains their poor play. Who knows whether either is true. The problem with those theories is that they ignore the absymal playoff performance of those two for many years now.I would not have believed Marner would walk for nothing, until recently. It would surprise no one if he decided he was done with the circus and the failure and wanted a new start.
I wouldn’t be disappointed to see them both gone and Rielly. I don’t really care about how good the team is at this point. I am sick of the annual slap in the face to the fans.
I have no doubt Matthews is injured, but he usually his come playoff games, or he’s sick or some other excuse.
The leafs would have to rebuild on the fly, they coudlnt tank for a year cause our garbage gm’s keep “trying to go for it” with the same core and now we dont have any first for the next decade or so lol (until 2028.May 16, 2025 at 1:03 pm #5277Fakepartofme
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ParticipantUntil I hear otherwise, I strongly believe that Matthews is hurt.
Great. Every playoffs he’s injured or sick or some excuse. Im sure he is hurt, but he’s never stepped up in big playoff games.
May 16, 2025 at 10:39 am #5237WHIPPER
ParticipantI would not have believed Marner would walk for nothing, until recently. It would surprise no one if he decided he was done with the circus and the failure and wanted a new start.
I wouldn’t be disappointed to see them both gone and Rielly. I don’t really care about how good the team is at this point. I am sick of the annual slap in the face to the fans.
~AetherialI think Marner is going to walk too. The universal hate he’s getting has gotta get to a guy. Sure, he loves the idea of playing in Toronto, but this city is done with playoff flops and he is getting the brunt of the hate.
Matthews is 1000% not going anywhere. You don’t extend a guy, give him the C, and then trade him a year later. No doubt, he needs to perform better in the playoffs, but he’ll have many more years to prove himself, (whether deserved or not).
Rielly is untradeable, be prepared to be swearing at the TV for, what, four more years?!?
May 16, 2025 at 10:28 am #5234PDO Speedwagon
ParticipantHot take : the hard salary cap is a sack of diseased dicks.
It makes it impossible to build a dynasty. One or two championships tops and then the GM is forced to start shedding critical players solely for financial reasons.
It has also destroyed team-player loyalty because no player is untouchable in the world of balance sheets and pencil pushers.
There is a lot to discuss around the decision to keep a player like Marner who is on an expiring contract. His paycheck breaking the team shouldn’t be a consideration.
Would it be fair to small market teams to abolish the cap? Well, let’s also ask – would those same small market teams exist in a vacuum without being subsidized by the revenue from big market teams who prop up the profitability of the entire league?
Institute a “luxury tax” and abolish the hard cap.
Thank you for attending my TED Talk ™.
May 16, 2025 at 10:24 am #5232Aetherial
ParticipantThe bright side is that tonight’s game is a win/win
If they win, I suppose we can be excited about a game 7 at home.
If they lose, we can all just stop thinking about it and enjoy the rest of the playoffs, or go do something else.The past fews years, Leafs eliminated day has been a huge relief.
May 16, 2025 at 10:20 am #5231Aetherial
ParticipantMy uneducated guess is that management asking him to waive his NTC changed everything – the organization has no loyalty to him, so why should he feel any loyalty to MLSE? -Wedgie
He shouldn’t.
I think those days are mostly gone in sports.
May 16, 2025 at 10:18 am #5230Aetherial
ParticipantUntil I hear otherwise, I strongly believe that Matthews is hurt. -Wedgie
It looks that way. It also looks like Marner has decided to leave at the end of the season.
The problem with those theories is that they don’t explain the same apparent lack of any heart, pushback, desire or pride that we have seen for what, 8? 9? years now.
May 16, 2025 at 10:17 am #5229Atomic Wedgie
ParticipantI would not have believed Marner would walk for nothing, until recently. It would surprise no one if he decided he was done with the circus and the failure and wanted a new start.
My uneducated guess is that management asking him to waive his NTC changed everything – the organization has no loyalty to him, so why should he feel any loyalty to MLSE?
He’s gone.
May 16, 2025 at 10:15 am #5228Aetherial
ParticipantI wont be watching the game but Marner and matthews have an opportunity to change the narrative around them.
If the leafs lose, get rid of both. -FakeThere is talk that Marner has already decided to leave and Matthews is injured and that explains their poor play. Who knows whether either is true. The problem with those theories is that they ignore the absymal playoff performance of those two for many years now.
I would not have believed Marner would walk for nothing, until recently. It would surprise no one if he decided he was done with the circus and the failure and wanted a new start.
I wouldn’t be disappointed to see them both gone and Rielly. I don’t really care about how good the team is at this point. I am sick of the annual slap in the face to the fans.
May 16, 2025 at 10:13 am #5227senstrolltwo
ParticipantUntil I hear otherwise, I strongly believe that Matthews is hurt.
I saw the other day his shots from in around the net where he scores most of his goals, the speed on those shots is down 10km hr/ average 77 last year (69 goals) and this season they are around 67, so his wrist is prob not 100%.
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