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  • #63842
    aecliptic
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    What Drury does with the vacated cap is also a factor. I want JRob. JRob, Greentree, cond 3rd for Panarin (and whatever is needed to acquire Robertson) is easier to digest.

    JRob will most likely be an off-season move for Dallas.

    What Drury should do with the vacated cap… assuming Trocheck, Schneider, Raddysh, Carrick are moved… is he should monetize it by taking other teams bad contracts, for example, get MTL to pay a 2nd to take on Laine. Get EDM to give us something to take on Mangiapane. Maybe Tampa wants to unload Bjorkstrand. This is where we should be.

    #63838
    aecliptic
    Participant

    Lets revisit 2 trades…

    Brock Nelson, locked up NTC (no team submission), netted the Isles Calum Ritchie, Oliver Kylington, a conditional 1st and a conditional 3rd.
    Claude Giroux, NMC (Florida was his choice and it wasnt a secret) the Flyers got Owen Tippett, a 1st and a 3rd. Heck, the Panthers didnt even intend on resigning Giroux, they gave that up for a straight up rental.

    Panarin is essentially the same age as those 2 when the trades occurred, and theres no debate that hes the better player between the 2.

    So to not get, at the very least, a conditional 1st of some sort (or a conditional 2nd that could be a 1st) and a 3rd as the kicker to Greentree is not good.

    #63825
    Bean Dip
    Participant

    What Drury does with the vacated cap is also a factor. I want JRob. JRob, Greentree, cond 3rd for Panarin (and whatever is needed to acquire Robertson) is easier to digest.

    #63808
    nyrangers9479
    Participant

    What were drury comments about last night? New blog doesn’t have a forum so posts are awaiting moderation

    #63778
    picklerick
    Participant

    TJ you want us to take the money we didn’t pay Panarin to pay Alex Tuch?

    #63775
    Brukie
    Participant

    Gonna try to be as calm as possible. You guys are ridiculous as always. Maybe Rick has it fairly.

    If anything he’s making up for bad PR, with the players, by doing Panarin a solid this time. Sending him to where he wanted to go, obviously no one believes this because it’s convenient not to believe it. I mean for two years you’ve killed the guy for the bad PR, this time he does the player a favor, and you still aren’t happy 🤣 you’re impossible to please

    He gets the guy one guy here droooooools over every single day, in Greentree. What was a greentree? A friggin first rd pick!! And he still cant live with the return. The other piece is a guaranteed 3rd rder, potentially a second rder (series win). All for a guy who forced his way to a single team. It’s almost Houdini act that he got what he did, or genius like you could say .

    For the love god most of you need to root for a new team. You’re the disgrace to this org, like 90% of this fanbase. Or suck it up because he isn’t going anywhere. If you had some god damn patience, and let him cook and watch him build a different team, you’ll be apologizing to me and him in time
    🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
    😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

    Another below stupid quote. He had to send him where he wanted to go, he had no other choice. So he didnt do him a solid.

    #63773
    airjan23
    Participant

    New column with my analysis should be posted shortly.

    #63759
    Tonybere
    Participant

    Guys, don’t bother.
    Of course it’s not the blind idiot that is wrong, it’s every other single person. On this thread or elsewhere.
    If TJ had the capacity to understand what we are all saying, this would have been settled years ago.

    #63757
    slimtj
    Blocked

    Besides yelling at you all, Im here to provide therapy too lol. I’m doing lineups like crazy, and it isn’t bad or overly difficult to think this could happen with the cap space

    Laf Schmaltz Tuch

    -Laf needs to play LW. Rather than trade him for peanuts, move him to his natural position and see what happens. Give him a full year on the PP1 and first line minutes. If he still sucks you move him for peanuts and chalk it up a major disappointment. You switch him and Cuylle, or dare I say Gavin McKenna or Ivar Stenburg, if he still sucks

    -Signing Tuch and Schmaltz is where they should go. Theyll have money and roles immediately for them upon arrival. This is what it means to “retool”, not rebuild

    Miller Mika Perrault

    – let it marinate some more. Together they show flashes and when Perrault gets more games and time under his belt it’ll be a better and more productive line

    Cuylle Trocheck McKenna/Stenburg/Greentree

    -this is if they keep Trocheck. I get the return he’d get, but I’m not so sure he’s part of the dismantling. Him and Miller are very close. At the very least maybe he stays one more TDL and reevaluate then. It’s not a rush to trade him imo. I know this will piss people off, but it’s to be expected. But it might be best for now. Cuylle has been one of the bigger disappointments but maybe it’ll keep his current tract demands down, or motivate him next season to be better. I would in no way give up on him whatsoever. Hopefully a prized prospect takes the job and runs with it, Greentree is possible. Or the top 5 pick they draft

    Othmann Laba Raddysh/Rempe/Edstrom

    -Othmann id keep around one more contract. Give him a full time spot next year low in the lineup and see what happens.

    * 100% trade Carrick for maybe a 3rd, like Soucy. Possibly a 4th. Laba imo is very much a part of the solution moving forward. He’s been good, even tho the NHL rigors may have caught up to him this year. But that’s ok,
    He needs to be a 4C imo. 13 and 14th Fs we can tinker. Rempe has really tailed off this year, Raddysh sucks and Edstrom appears injury prone. But at least Othmann and Laba both are young and provide some spark where the 4th line is two parts full

    Gavrikov Fox

    -self explanatory. It was good before the injury. No reason to expect this pair to suck next season

    Ferraro Morrow/Verhoeff

    – I’ve said it for years, but they need to trade Schneider. This is an easy 2nd rd pick to obtain and move on with Morrow taking the next step. Ferraro is perfect signing. He’s a bigger version of Lindgren and ok on the second pair where he can be relied upon for hard minutes, but less minutes. He blocks shots like Girardi and Lindgren. Tough sob.

    *Verhoeff is possible, I’m not sure he’s ready for the NHL yet but could see him be drafted. He might be to good to pass up, especially if the wingers are gone

    Robertson Borgen

    – to me Robertson has been the biggest surprise this season. Good size, surprisingly good offensively and for the most part he’s been good defensively. This is Borgens sweet spot, 3rd pair he is great for him and the team

    Iorio 7th D

    -hes probably made someone expendable and imo it’s Schneider

    Shesty
    Nedjelkovic

    -they need a new back up. Thanks to Quicky for everything, but he’s toast. Martin is bad. He’s got to go and go stat

    #63754
    slimtj
    Blocked

    Buch top season with us wasn’t even a PPG. 21 goal high. He was good, nothing great. Matter of fact he was probably as good as a 2nd rd pick dart throw, and a role player. He had a two year spurt where it got him paid. Now the Blues probably have buyers remorse, because he isn’t producing like an 8 million dollar guy. If you expect me to believe Drury wouldn’t be getting hell for that (contract) too, your out of your minds

    Kakko too. 6 goals. Still stickhandles like a magician for about ten seconds, then nothing. Borgen isn’t great, but backup/AHL goalies make him look terrible just like all 6-7 of the Dmen. He is probably best suited for 3rd pair, which he would be playing if Fox was healthy.

    JT miller trade. Chytil is hurt again (unfortunately) Sure they traded a first rder, but he got a first rder back this year and a second. For a guy who was overrated. So two darts instead of one now. Morrow who has promise, And they needed a captain. Remember when they didn’t have one? It pissed you all off if I recall.

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