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You seem to have Hague Derangement Syndrome. You should consult a professional. I’ve already made my points on Hague. How about Klingberg? He’s UFA and a 3rd pairing guy for Edmonton. He’s playing well. Like some other elite teams, EDM is stacked on D: Bouchard, Nurse, Ekholm, Kulak and Walman. Injuries have been an issue for Klingberg and he is past his prime, which is how EDM was able to add him. He’s a Top 4 guy on the Flyers.
You haven’t made any points. Not a single one that supports your opinion. Now you’re just making stupid comments. As expected, you aren’t able to support your opinion that Hague could be a top 4 on the Flyers or on a lot of other teams as you have claimed. You’re an empty suit. I have zero interest in bringing on a 30+ year old defenseman for the Flyers.
Tell me you have no understanding of how depth charts work in sports without telling me you have no understanding of how depth charts work in sports. You do understand Pietrangelo, McNabb, Theodore and Hanifin are all outstanding NHL defensemen, right?
Thank you for proving my point. Somehow you think what level those players are, has any bearing on what kind of player Hague can be with another team. Like I said, lack of common sense
Now again, I challenge you to provide facts and data to support your opinion on Hague.
Your hatred of Hague seems pathological. The Flyers need one Top 4 guy here to upgrade the defense for this season. A few guys could fill the bill, including some guys who are 3rd pairing guys on teams stacked on the blueline. This is simple enough for a relative hockey novice to understand.
You aren’t making any sense. My stance on Hague as a player can be supported with facts and data. Meanwhile, your basis for what you think Hague is as a player, is based on where he sits on his teams depth chart. As if that determines what level a player is at. Rather than his actual level of play. Your comment really isn’t judged by an understanding of the game of hockey but rather just by simple common sense. If we hypothetically put Andrae in the same slot of the depth chart on Vegas that Hague is at, does that automatically make him a top 4 defenseman?
Now, I will challenge you to provide some facts and data to support your opinion that Hague is a top 4 level defenseman. I’ll then counter with what have to offer to support my opinion and we’ll see who actually understands the game.
Andrae doesn’t crack the Top 6 on the top teams in the league. You really think he’d play ahead of Hague in Vegas? Hahahaha! He will get games this year. So will Zamula and Drysdale. Hopefully, at least one surprises. The Flyers need that too . . . along with a proven Top 4 Dman.
You keep posting anecdotes and don’t seem aware of what kind of player Hague actually is. Andrae has a good level of hockey sense and solid puck moving ability as well as being good defensively for a smaller guy. He is a player the Flyers should invest time in developing rather than pursuing mediocre players without much of a future in Hague
The sad truth is Andrae is a Top 4 guy here on opening night if the Flyers don’t add on the blue line. Ristolainen will still be out a while.
Andrae has legitimate top 4 potential while Hague does not. The issue with the Flyers is the mix of players. Ristolainen is a mediocre 3rd pair defenseman. It’s not a loss. They don’t have to do anything. They should be tanking for draft capital.
They’re all top 4 guys here and you don’t have to give up assets to get them. So whether it’s one year or two or five, you can make that move July 1. I like Faulk just fine but the Blues won’t give him away. I’ve seen it happen plenty of times: A team adds one right guy to the mix and it literally changes the entire team for the better.
Briere came in spring of 23. He inherited a mess. I have high expectations for this off season. They aren’t sitting on what they’ve got now . . . at least I hope not. I think they have two must make moves this off season. Which UFA center do you think they should sign?
You’ve fallen into the same traps as all the other authentic Flyer fans. Thinking they’re one right guy away or should be hitting the UFA market. That’s the same failed strategies that has the Flyers as one of the worst run teams in all of pro sports and they haven’t been relevant for the last 15 years. By all means, keep doing the same thing. It’s bound to work this time.
I’m not looking to move the needle, I’m looking to move Drysdale, Zamula and Andrae down the depth chart and eventually out of Philly. They are not top 4 players who will be here if the flyers ever become contenders.
Andrae should’ve already been in their top 4. He has promise and should be getting plenty of ice time
You expect them to do all that this off season? Acquire a top center, Dman and goalie? They’re drafting their elite talent at center with the #6 overall draft pick. It’s unlikely whoever that is will be a #1 center this coming season. Somebody who knows hockey would know that.
Reading comprehension helps. There isn’t anywhere in my post where I stated, implied or suggested that I expected them to do all that this off season. Instead of questioning if somebody knows hockey, apply common sense first
The elite talent they need to acquire is on D and in goal. They can draft scorers. You build your offense through the draft. This is not complicated. You have to get to the bubble to get back to the playoffs. Also, not complicated. You do understand Hague slots behind Pietrangelo, Hanifin, Theodore and McNabb, right? You know who is a Top 4 Dman for the Flyers at this moment? Jamie Drysdale.
No, they also need to acquire elite talent at center. They desperately need a #1 center. When was the last time they did that? So apparently it is complicated for you. No, they don’t have to get to the bubble. That would be the worst thing they could do now. They need to acquire elite talent through the draft. The best way to do that is to draft high. This is not complicated. You do understand that who a player slots behind, doesn’t affect the level of player that he is. Hague is not a top 4 level NHL defenseman. He is poor defensively and offers little offense. He is not a smart move for the Flyers. Develop and play the young kids. This is not complicated
Black Francis is trying to pull the same nonsense he did on the other site and is going to act like nobody has figured it out. LOL
If you think Hague is a top 4 for a lot, or most teams in the league. Then either you don’t know Hague or hockey very well. He is poor defensively and not good offensively. What would better goaltending and a top 4 defenseman do for the Flyers? Put them back in the playoff bubble? Whoopee! They need top draft picks to try and acquire elite talent. They need to tank. Anything else is just more of the same Flyers nonsense leading to nowhere and the inevitable cycle that they’ve been in for about 15 years now.
Hague is a 3rd pair defenseman. Hague and Ristolainen would be a disaster. I’m all for it. Need that high draft pick
My take is that this team needs to continue to tank. They won’t though and we all know they won’t. All acquiring players such as Bennett, Rossi, Ekblad and even Marner will do, is cap the team out and they could possibly be a playoff team that is short of true contention. That will prevent the Flyers from being able to acquire elite young talent. It is a mistake to do so and it will fail. Then the team will be back in another “rebuild” with anchor contracts and aging players
I don’t doubt that’s likely to be the kind of approach the team is going to take but it will be a disaster and will lead to more of the same. A continuing cycle of capping out, without being close to good enough and continuing to “rebuild” or “re-tool”
