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Earl, if the Hawks miss the playoffs by a couple of points. Remember that NHL playoff contenders keep a veteran goalie around for emergencies. KD traded his insurance policy to meet the cap floor a couple of days before he needed him.
Comparing to last season sounds like when my wife tells me that she saved money by buying something for 40% off.
That’s insane Steve and yes you weren’t getting that back. It’s why I call it an act because your expectations aren’t based in any sort of reality.
Here…let me help you out a little and explain how this works. First round picks are valuable when a) They haven’t been yet made or b) when said first rounder lives up to their draft status. Also combining two former first round draft picks who don’t appear to be more than fringe NHL’ers doesn’t necessarily get you what you’re looking for and it certainly wasn’t getting you a somewhat useful player and a 2nd and 3rd rounder. You’re higher than the ISS if you think that’s a realistic return for Reichel and Allan based solely on the fact they were former first rounders. Just ludicrous.
I’m not declaring KFC anything but that was one of those trades that’s a win/win. Knight is still playing great hockey. One bad game represents his coming back to earth numbers but I know that doesn’t fit your narrative.
Also, I’m not that guy, so as usual you’re wrong. I was never the guy crying about trades Stanbo made or the guy that thought that those Cup teams were ALL the handiwork of Dale Tallon.
To my original point, in the world of spilled milk, this trade wouldn’t fill a thimble…and yet here we are.
Chinakov has 79 points in 208 games. Reichel has 59 points in 188 games. You think it is insane and ludicrous to get Chinakov’s return for Reichel and Allan?
Comparing to last season sounds like when my wife tells me that she saved money by buying something for 40% off.
It’s not an act. I have my opinions and you have yours.
By declaring that trading away 2 recent 1st round picks is nothing suggests you are not aware of how valuable a 1st round pick is.
Is it too much to expect a return in line with Danton Heinen and draft picks (a 2026 2nd and 2027 3rd rounder) for the 2 former 1st rounders combined?
His teams have finished 31 or 32 every year he’s been GM. How many years more years of the bottom are you going to allow to see what comes? Answer that question with a specific year in which the team makes a long playoff run.
Seth Jones won the Cup, made the Olympic team, and was having a solid season until he got hurt. Knight’s start was amazing, he’s come back to earth since. The Hawks are still paying $2.5 of Jones. I am going to allow time to see what comes of whatever this trade turns out to be before declaring KD the new Sam Pollock.
I too remember people writing about toughness back on HB in those times. I thought those teams were tough enough and the poster was wrong. No toughness no Cup went overboard. Can’t remember a single post you have ever written until today but I am going to take a guess: You are probably one of those posters still whining about the Danault trade and how horrible a job Bowman did. You probably think that Tallon deserves all the credit for his drafting of Duncan Keith. Even though Keith was drafted by Smith.Thanks for the back and forth. Clearly you are in the Davidson can do no wrong crowd. It’s adorable how beloved he is. I said the returns are underwhelming. Are you overwhelmed? I prefer when GM’s fluff up their prospects before trading them like Columbus just did instead of burying them and selling them cheap. I will double down on my sad sack attitude: One of the NHL goalies will probably get hurt in the next couple of games and people will wish there was capable NHL backup in the system to keep the playoff dream alive. Ooops Hawks traded one to meet the salary floor. I think the Hawks have interesting prospects and other teams do as well. Hard to tell who is going to be better till they start playing with and against men. It is unclear how any of them develop. Rinzel was hyped as coming in on the top D pair. He was rushed. Frondell, Nestrasil, Spellacy, and Kansterov are all going to be projected as top 6 forwards for next season and all of them would benefit from a year in Rockford or stay where they are.
The pro-Davidson crowd cheers every move he makes. The take on the latest move is that the Hawks have to clear roster spots for all their prospects. If this is the motivation, I guess there is no point in hoping for Free Agents in the summer or trades of prospect/picks for players that can help now. I wonder what the improvement here would have been if Davidson had signed Orlov, Dvorak, and Jenault in the offseason to augment the current roster. I thought that would have been a reasonable move that would have bought time for the prospect to patiently develop in the AHL while winning more at the NHL level. The teams that signed them are rebuilding and are ahead of the Hawks in the standings at the same time. Grier in particular is likely to be the GM of the year if they eek into the playoffs. The returns for 2 former first rounders is underwhelming. Hard to believe the return could have been less. One of the results of going to the WJC in Minnesota is seeing how many good prospects the other teams have in the pipeline while their NHL rosters are currently ahead of the Hawks. Washington, Montreal, and San Jose have some studs on the way amongst others. I am not sure what Allan will ultimately become but in his defense I believe he has played under 5 NHL head coaches and at least 4 AHL head coaches since he was drafted.
Day 4 was great. Frondell was dominant. He has the best shot here and the 2nd best on the Hawks. The draftable Bjorck looked real good. He older brother dresses and played hard. Finland Czech was a great game. I thought Nestrasil was standing around a bit in 2nd and 3rd. He is stronger than I thought and has good hockey sense. Made it to USA Slovakia for the 2nd. Spellacyplayed great. Fast and strong. Not afraid. Ryder Lee played really well. Best snipe we saw. Can’t believe the Hawks passed on him 3 times. That could look bad in a few years. Every time I saw someone I liked and asked my son who has them it was either a Capitals 2nd rounder or a Sabre. Lots of interesting prospects here. Sad to head home. This is the best hockey experience I’ve had. Best on best saw 10 games in 4 days.
Looked to me that Frondell has a good 1st period. Fast and good puck protection. After that he was very strong on the back check but stood around a bit in the offensive zone. I found Stenberg’s dad and reminded him about Nashville. He told me that he remembered when Ivar said he would be 1st overall this year. He said it surprised him because Ivar was so small now he getting close to 6 feet. Stenberg said he would be happy if Ivar was drafted by Chicago. Said Frondell is better at center than wing. We coincidently sat right behind the Bjorcks. Wilson was scratched but Viggo was in the lineup and is a top 10 prospect. He moved from the 2nd line to the first as the game went on. He scored. Replaced Stenberg on pp1 as the game went on. Wilson said he played with Frondell for years and thinks he’s better at wing. Took everything Sweden had to beat Switzerland. Could have gone either way. We made it to the Finland Lavia game as the first period ended 3-0. Finland had the puck 90% of the next 2 periods. Hard to tell who is good because each line looked great. Latvia #23 Smits is a top 10 prospect. My kid thought he was the best player on the ice. I thought he was running around in his own zone. Got pictures with Stenberg’s dad, Draper and Bob Murray. Going to 3 games tomorrow and 10pm flight back to Chicago.
Yesterday Slovakia manhandled Germany in front of a small crowd. Full building for USA over Swiss. Spellacy played ok. Nowhere near Friday. Only a handful of shifts for Ryker Lee. He played harder away from puck but nowhere near as good as he can be. Caught 2nd and 3rd of Czech game. Maybe 1,000 fans. Nestrasil was real good. Looked to me like he was more on wing. Mostly because Czech was on pp most of what I saw and he is on the half wall. Watched USA game next to Colorado scouts. They really like Nestrasil. #12 on Czech is theirs so they have been watching that line closely. Bought tickets online for $9. Blizzard outside. Only 2 games today and silly there is one at each rink kinda close in time instead of 2 at one arena. Looking forward to seeing Frondell and Stenberg. Going to track down Stenberg’s parents and remind them of what Ivar told me in Nashville.
I’m at WJC with kid. Haven’t seen Sweden yet. Will see them tomorrow. Spellacy looked good. Fast, looked strong. Son thinks 4th line ceiling. Will see. I watched the Czech game from behind Czech goal for 2 periods. It looked to me like Nestrasil was playing center and was decent in his own zone. Son said he will play wing in NHL. We will see. Going to 3 games today. Saw Kris Draper. Got a selfie with Jeff O’Neil.
What has KD built exactly?
He’s on his 4th coach.
There isn’t a sniper equal to DeBrincat
There isn’t a power forward with the heart of Hagel.
There isn’t a top defenseman in the system that is going to top out near Jones.
Ignores franchise opportunities in contract negotiations.
Gave away Kane.
Rushed Korchinski and Rinzel.
Let Demidov slip through his fingers.
Has fallen in love with his players.
Supporters are counting 100% on prospects evolving.
Could take lessons from Grier.
Should be removed from decision making by New Years.You can spin the Davidson quote all you want but it puts Bedard in a bad light for no reason. Another self inflected wound from the GM.
As for the Hawks being 2 years away, away from what? The Habs, Ducks, and Caps are 2 years away from being Cup contenders because their young players are going to be hitting their prime and supported by vets. In 2 years the Hawks will still be integrating early 20 year olds who are just going to be learning the league. Who knows what vets will be supporting them?
The last thing this franchise needs is stoic stability and letting Davidson figure out who goes and who stays. He did the tear down. There are a few interesting pieces but do you really trust him to wheel and deal his way to a Cup? Based on what? The Dickenson and Mikayev trades? Knight had a hot start but his numbers are falling.
Winning builds culture, identity, and creates a place people want to play. Not sitting around and accepting historically bad results. This is a results business.
Davidson has never won anything, anywhere.
Are you suggesting the Blashill and the medical staff are not in alignment with the GM or there is some miscommunication regarding Bedard? How can that be? He is the franchise.
Rinzel never should have started the year in Chicago. It was another rush job. No reason to subject him to this team for the rest of the year. Patiently develop him so he’s here to stay next time.
If the Hawks don’t view Slaggert as part of the long term picture, why has he been given so many games? Why is taking ice time in Rockford? It is proven, the front office cannot evaluate NHL talent.
How about the nerve of the GM? 10 days ago he scapegoated Rinzel and Slaggert. This week he’s pressuring Bedard to come back from injury. Would Mark Hunter take the job?
The roster is poorly constructed. The franchise is back to 32nd. There are lots of interesting prospects but the team is still years away from contending from a playoff spot. The next set of saviors are going to have to learn the NHL on a team that has few teeth left that have not been kicked in. Teams higher up in the standings have made significant changes. It is past time to shake up the front office and bring in seasoned NHL talent evaluators. Why is the media so incredibly soft here?
