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  • #23605
    FlyerFrank
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    Tocchet might want 2 scoring lines and a checking line. He can do that.

    Michkov-Couturier-Konecny
    Foerster-Zegras-Tippett
    Dvorak-Cates-Brink

    Tocchet might want 3 balanced lines and put his three best right hand shots on right wing. He can do that.

    Bump-Couturier-Konecny
    Dvorak-Zegras-Tippett
    Michkov-Cates-Foerster

    Tocchet might want to leave two lines that worked well late last year together and piece together a third line. He can do that.

    Michkov-Couturier-Konecny
    Foerster-Cates-Brink
    Dvorak-Zegras-Tippett

    A lot of options. None bad.

    • This topic was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by FlyerFrank.
    #23643
    Flyers_01
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    Tocchet might want 2 scoring lines and a checking line. He can do that.

    Michkov-Couturier-Konecny
    Foerster-Zegras-Tippett
    Dvorak-Cates-Brink

    Tocchet might want 3 balanced lines and put his three best right hand shots on right wing. He can do that.

    Bump-Couturier-Konecny
    Dvorak-Zegras-Tippett
    Michkov-Cates-Foerster

    Tocchet might want to leave two lines that worked well late last year together and piece together a third line. He can do that.

    Michkov-Couturier-Konecny
    Foerster-Cates-Brink
    Dvorak-Zegras-Tippett

    A lot of options. None bad.

    None good. Coots is probably a good 3C who can play up and down the lineup at this point in his career on a contender and he may still be the best the Flyers have. He did have a bit of a revival last year as the team fell apart around him but I doubt at age 33 with his injury history that if they lean on him to hard that he’ll produce and more importantly, stay healthy.

    #23646
    yes its me 2050
    Participant

    Tocchet might want 2 scoring lines and a checking line. He can do that.

    Michkov-Couturier-Konecny
    Foerster-Zegras-Tippett
    Dvorak-Cates-Brink

    Tocchet might want 3 balanced lines and put his three best right hand shots on right wing. He can do that.

    Bump-Couturier-Konecny
    Dvorak-Zegras-Tippett
    Michkov-Cates-Foerster

    Tocchet might want to leave two lines that worked well late last year together and piece together a third line. He can do that.

    Michkov-Couturier-Konecny
    Foerster-Cates-Brink
    Dvorak-Zegras-Tippett

    A lot of options. None bad.

    that group is right up there. can compete with any team.

    #23684
    black_francis
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    that group is right up there. can compete with any team.

    if the team is so bad and management is so clueless why are you here every day?

    #23692
    yes its me 2050
    Participant

    that group is right up there. can compete with any team.

    if the team is so bad and management is so clueless why are you here every day?

    back for more? thought you were done posting? like taking candy from a baby

    #23694
    FlyerFrank
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    None good. Coots is probably a good 3C who can play up and down the lineup at this point in his career on a contender and he may still be the best the Flyers have. He did have a bit of a revival last year as the team fell apart around him but I doubt at age 33 with his injury history that if they lean on him to hard that he’ll produce and more importantly, stay healthy.

    I think Couturier is better than you do at this stage. I don’t expect him to be the .9 PPG player he was in his prime, but he can still get to .7-.75 PPG and help a team win. That’s actually a good 2C, if you’re thinking in those terms. Zegras will be the 1C offensively at least. These forward lines look OK to me. I don’t see any worrisome holes there. Could a couple spots be upgraded? That’s what Luchanko and Martone are for in a year. It’s the team D that needs to get way better. There are worrisome holes on the blueline.

    #23701
    Bill Meltzer
    Keymaster

    Dvorak is going to take faceoffs. Whether he takes the draw and then rotates over to wing, we will see.

    #23703
    yes its me 2050
    Participant

    Dvorak is going to take faceoffs. Whether he takes the draw and then rotates over to wing, we will see.

    been saying from day one he will be on the wing much more than center; taking draws.

    he didn’t sign here, nor will the coach use him as a 4th line center.

    #23704
    Flyers_01
    Participant

    I think Couturier is better than you do at this stage. I don’t expect him to be the .9 PPG player he was in his prime, but he can still get to .7-.75 PPG and help a team win. That’s actually a good 2C, if you’re thinking in those terms. Zegras will be the 1C offensively at least. These forward lines look OK to me. I don’t see any worrisome holes there. Could a couple spots be upgraded? That’s what Luchanko and Martone are for in a year. It’s the team D that needs to get way better. There are worrisome holes on the blueline.

    He hasn’t come close to that post back surgery but maybe getting away from Torts will rejuvenate him. I doubt it though. You are putting alot of faith in Zegras just needing a change of scenery. I hope you are correct.

    #23705
    FlyerFrank
    Participant

    Dvorak is going to take faceoffs. Whether he takes the draw and then rotates over to wing, we will see.

    I would hope Tocchet finds a way to get Dvorak and Couturier combined to take a majority of the faceoffs. It was a glaring hole before free agency. I can’t see either Dvorak or Cates getting pushed out of the Top 9 though. It opens the 4C slot, but so be it. There are a lot of different potential looks that teams are going to have to try to match up against. There’s a lot of flexibility there. Word on the street is Zegras is training with Adam Oates and working on draws among other things. This also isn’t bad news.

    https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/nhl-face-off-win-percentage-leaders-alltime-over-1000-face-offs-taken-top-100

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by FlyerFrank.
    #23706
    yes its me 2050
    Participant

    None good. Coots is probably a good 3C who can play up and down the lineup at this point in his career on a contender and he may still be the best the Flyers have. He did have a bit of a revival last year as the team fell apart around him but I doubt at age 33 with his injury history that if they lean on him to hard that he’ll produce and more importantly, stay healthy.

    I think Couturier is better than you do at this stage. I don’t expect him to be the .9 PPG player he was in his prime, but he can still get to .7-.75 PPG and help a team win. That’s actually a good 2C, if you’re thinking in those terms. Zegras will be the 1C offensively at least. These forward lines look OK to me. I don’t see any worrisome holes there. Could a couple spots be upgraded? That’s what Luchanko and Martone are for in a year. It’s the team D that needs to get way better. There are worrisome holes on the blueline.

    Ok compared to what? Ok isn’t going to be good enough. Now or in the future.

    They were in the bottom 10 in goals scored last year. How much improvement do you really think they will make on that as a team?

    If ex selke “paces” for 60 points the flyers should look to move him asap. Can help a team win as you say. Will they? Hell no.

    #23710
    FlyerFrank
    Participant

    Ok compared to what? Ok isn’t going to be good enough. Now or in the future.

    They were in the bottom 10 in goals scored last year. How much improvement do you really think they will make on that as a team?

    If ex selke “paces” for 60 points the flyers should look to move him asap. Can help a team win as you say. Will they? Hell no.

    OK compared to the majority of the league. They aren’t stacked with elite players but they are deep in good NHL forwards with upside. That’s what the Flyers need to become: A good team better than the sum of its’ parts and their forward parts are pretty deep and pretty good. I don’t see a problem here. Defense and goal are the major concerns.

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by FlyerFrank.
    #23712
    yes its me 2050
    Participant

    Ok compared to what? Ok isn’t going to be good enough. Now or in the future.

    They were in the bottom 10 in goals scored last year. How much improvement do you really think they will make on that as a team?

    If ex selke “paces” for 60 points the flyers should look to move him asap. Can help a team win as you say. Will they? Hell no.

    OK compared to the majority of the league. They aren’t stacked with elite players but they are deep in good NHL forwards with upside. That’s what the Flyers need to become: A good team better than the sum of its’ parts and they’re forward parts are pretty deep and pretty good. I don’t see a problem here. Defense and goal are the major concerns.

    they finished bottom 10. that is not ok. just because you dont see a problem doesn’t mean it is good enough to get it done. they are not deep. they are nothing but average at best

    “But like I said, when you’re not spending $12 million on a player, or even two like Edmonton does… Colorado has three or four high-end guys. We’re not going to be built that way. So depth will be important to us.”

    love that quote by the gm.

    #23722
    FlyerFrank
    Participant

    they finished bottom 10. that is not ok. just because you dont see a problem doesn’t mean it is good enough to get it done. they are not deep. they are nothing but average at best

    “But like I said, when you’re not spending $12 million on a player, or even two like Edmonton does… Colorado has three or four high-end guys. We’re not going to be built that way. So depth will be important to us.”

    love that quote by the gm.

    Average age of what I see as their Top 9 is 25 and change with Martone and Luchanko on the way. Depth also gives them some pieces to put a package together for one of the elite needle-moving, difference-making forwards you think they MUST have to “get it done,” whatever “it” is. There’s literally nothing to complain about in the way the forwards are shaping up. Briere is right . . . as always!

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by FlyerFrank.
    #23725
    yes its me 2050
    Participant

    they finished bottom 10. that is not ok. just because you dont see a problem doesn’t mean it is good enough to get it done. they are not deep. they are nothing but average at best

    “But like I said, when you’re not spending $12 million on a player, or even two like Edmonton does… Colorado has three or four high-end guys. We’re not going to be built that way. So depth will be important to us.”

    love that quote by the gm.

    Average age of what I see as their Top 9 is 25 and change with Martone and Luchanko on the way. Depth also gives them some pieces to put a package together for one of the elite needle-moving, difference-making forwards you think they MUST have to “get it done,” whatever “it” is. There’s literally nothing to complain about in the way the forwards are shaping up. Briere is right . . . as always!

    you forgot to add nesbitt and all the other big mean nasty players the flyers drafted in 2025.

    can wait to them package that depth for that elite player.

    nothng to complain about the forwards. love it. keep the faith. go flyers

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