Blackhawks Prospect Rankings: Pronman vs Ellis vs Coach Frenchy

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    • #23731
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Whether it’s the Chicago Blackhawks or any other team, the difference in ranking prospects is half about criteria and half about the eye of the beholder.

      [See the full post at: Blackhawks Prospect Rankings: Pronman vs Ellis vs Coach Frenchy]

    • #23733
      hockeyguys
      Keymaster

      Great content!!

    • #23741
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Just wrote a 3-4 paragraph response that didn’t take…. In a nutshell love your work, Frenchy. Read everything you wrote here since I found you and will do so everyday. No fluff, no bs or lazy hot takes. Your work will spark reasoned mature debate thru the next part of the rebuild. Really good work here.

      But Frenchy, who are you? You’ve obviously seen decades of Hawk’s games and write professionally so I must have missed you? … Maybe you can take a 1/4 of your next post to give us a Frenchy profile?

      • #23777
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thanks so much for your kind words — I really appreciate you taking the time to write this. It means a lot to hear that you’re enjoying the work and checking in every day. That’s exactly why I write — to share knowledge, spark good hockey conversations, and keep the debates reasoned and respectful.

        Just to clarify, the founder of Hockey Hot Stove is former Flyer Chris Therien, and Bill Meltzer is part of the site as well. It’s a fairly new platform, and I joined as a contributor about a month ago. I agree with you on Meltzer — first-rate writer and always worth the read, even if you’re not following the Flyers closely.

        As for me, I’ve been around hockey my entire life. Born in Montreal, I’ve spent over 40 years in the game, mostly on the video coaching side — from junior hockey up to the ECHL. I’ve always been a big fan of both the Canadiens and the Blackhawks. Denis Savard was the spark — I was around him in junior — and when Chicago later drafted Eric Dazé, another junior I coached, I stuck with the Blackhawks ever since.

        Hockey has always been my passion, and now I’m lucky enough to share that through writing and live shows. I’m glad you found me here, and I’m excited to keep talking Hawks as this next phase of the rebuild unfolds. Like you said — the talent is stacked, but the rubber is hitting the road now.

        Thanks again for the support. Looking forward to more great debates with you and the rest of the community.

    • #23745
      Haru
      Participant

      Very fun read Coach. I think you and Ellis see things pretty much eye to eye, however Pronman’s list seems a little flawed. Of course, rating prospects is a task in itself as we are only predicting what holds for the future for these young players. And this is without seeing them in person, speaking with them, understanding their work habits etc.

      However, I thought several names on Pronman’s list were questionable. Mason West is an athlete pure and simple, but a player that is labeled as raw. But how can you gauge what kind of player he will be at this point, and place him high on a list, when there are other prospects who have a more distinct hockey history. I think that’s why I think GM Davidson said that he was going for a grand slam on West’s pick, kind of a gut feeling lottery pick. I think Nestrasil would make more sense if you were to pick a young giant sized prospect for the list.

      He chose Allen over Del Mastro, which isn’t that big of a deal, but I just thought Del Mastro was fine and not noticeable in a good way while up with the Hawks. Allen was ok too, but seemed to have penalty problems, which probably had him sent back to Rockford to be worked on.

      He also chose Green, who by all accounts should be a good player, but nothing shows that he will be destined to a top 6 role.

      Since Chicago’s pipeline is rated so high amongst the hockey writers, you’d figure that their top 10 list would be littered with top 6 forwards and top 4 D-men. I think your list and Ellis’ list show this.

      • #23784
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thanks for your comment today. You and I are pretty much on the same page overall. You brought up a lot of strong points about the Hawks’ prospects, and I share your view on Greene, Allan, and West.

        I really appreciate all the comments you leave on my articles and the time you take to read them. It doesn’t go unnoticed, and it means a lot.

        Wishing you a great weekend!

    • #23776
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Thanks for your comment and for taking the time to respond to the article!

      First, on Nick Lardis: I watched him play a lot last season, and he’s my wildcard in the Blackhawks’ system. He has the speed and shot to surprise people if he adjusts well to the AHL.

      On Colton Dach, I feel the same as you. This is a huge season for him to show what his future looks like with the team. Honestly, he was borderline for me — right on the edge of the top 10 or just outside of it.

      We’re also in full agreement about West. The tools are there, and the upside is high, but he’s still too raw to lock into a top-10 spot right now.

      As for Greene and Allan, I’m still not sold. Allan could settle in as a reliable third-pairing guy, but I’m not sure yet if Greene will ever become an everyday NHLer.

      And you’re right — the 2026 NHL Draft should bring Chicago another top-5 pick. Whoever that player ends up being will likely crack the top 10 prospect list immediately.

    • #23779
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Reads like your responding to my post Frenchy. Unfortunately, my original post is not shown anymore within the comments. Kind of disappointing that I take the time to write my thoughts and then they disappear in the ether somewhere. Maybe it is just a quirk in the website.

      • #23785
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Honestly, I’m not sure what happened there — it’s out of my control. The good thing is that I still get all the comments by email, which allows me to read and reply even if they don’t show up under the thread. I couldn’t track your post down directly, so I wanted to make sure to respond here instead.

        I apologize for the mix-up and hope it doesn’t happen again. Please know that I truly value your long, thoughtful comments — they add a lot to the discussion, and I really appreciate the time you put into them.

    • #23786
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      @BetweenTheDots, excellent comment my friend and thank you! You gave a really good breakdown of the Hawks’ prospects, and I agree with many of your points.

      I’ve watched a lot of Nick Lardis, and I also feel he’s underrated by some prospect analysts like Pronman. His speed and compete level stand out, and I think Rockford will be an important test for him this year.

      And you’re absolutely right about KD — he’s built up a ton of assets, which gives the Hawks flexibility to make the right moves at the right time. That’s how you sustain success and keep the pipeline strong.

      Enjoy your weekend, my friend — always appreciate your thoughtful comments!

    • #23793
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I don’t know what the record of the Blackhawks will be but I’m excited about this season, it sucked when we traded Cat, Hagel, Kane, and had to watch a bunch of scrubs.

      Bedard was exciting to watch and to see Vlasic grow into a solid defenseman.

      But we are finally in a spot where i can enjoy watching both the Blackhawks and the ice hogs.

      I believe one of the things i mentioned that wasn’t posted was what i really like about the rebuild is the depth, if one of Korchinski, Arty or Rinzel don’t work out that’s fine but what does a team like SJ do if Dickinson doesn’t become the guy many think he will? They have to hope a 26 year old Dobson is available for tradeb and have to pay him.

      Habs had to give up 2 first round picks which will affect future depth for them.

      I’m hoping to one day see a PP of Bedard, Nazar, Lardis, Frondell, and Arty or Rinzel. They all can shoot and are good at handling the puck.

      • #23796
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thanks for the comment! You’re right — the toughest part is behind us. Now, every season feels more exciting as new prospects join the roster. By next year, I expect we’ll see at least one or two fresh faces make the jump.

        What really stands out about this rebuild is that the Hawks finally have options. With so many assets, Davidson can always move pieces to target a specific player down the road. If the team keeps improving in the standings while developing the young core, that’s already a successful season in my book.

        The goal should still be to land one more top-5 pick in 2026. After that, Davidson can start really building out the roster. With five veterans hitting free agency at the end of this year, there’s a good chance to pick up more assets at the deadline. And next summer’s UFA class looks strong enough to add one or two important pieces.

        It all comes down to patience. The Blackhawks are on the right path, but it’s going to take at least two more years before this team is truly ready to take off.

    • #23794
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I do think they need to have 2 different prospect rankings

      NHL ready prospect rankings
      Nazar and Rinzel

      Top talent rankings, when they begin to reach their prime at about 24 years old

      Arty, Frondell, Moore, West, Lardis, Kansternov, Korchinski and so on.

      Just think in the past 4 years the Blackhawks have drafted 15 kids in the top 40!!!!

      Hard for any team to compete with that and i think when it’s all said and done Frondell will be the prize of that draft.

      • #23797
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thanks for your input again! What I really like about the Blackhawks’ rebuild is how Davidson focused on building a strong defensive core first. On top of that, their second- and third-round picks over the last three NHL drafts have been very smart — you can see the depth starting to take shape.

        This season, I’ll be providing weekly coverage every Monday with a full recap of the Blackhawks. That will include updates on the NHL roster, the IceHogs, plus prospects in the NCAA, CHL, and Europe. I’ll also be naming the 3 Stars of the Week in each category, so Blackhawks fans can follow everything happening across the entire Chicago hockey system.

    • #23838

      Interesting that everyone has Lardis so far down the list. AKA rpeters01.

      • #23859
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        I think Ellis and I are higher on Lardis than most — we’ve got him at 7 and 6. He had a really strong season last year, and for me he’s definitely a prospect to keep an eye on heading into this season. Appreciate your comment today!

      • #24012
        Assman22
        Participant

        Lardis has a huge challenge of transitioning to AHL and its physicality. He has not done well in physical games like vs London for example and will have a bullseye on his back for that reason until he overcomes it. Many skilled guys do not overcome it though hence why he’s further down the list given his stats vs OHL boys or labeled a “wild card”.

        I will say I’m a bit surprised to see Korchinski so high on the prospect rankings. He’s not really moved the needle and should be relegated back to Rockford again this season along with Arty.

      • #24061
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thanks for your comment and solid input. I don’t really disagree with your take on Lardis. Like a lot of players coming out of the CHL, the jump to the AHL takes time — the speed, the physical grind, and playing against grown men is a big adjustment. He’s going to have to figure it out if he wants to stick. Until he proves he can handle that part of the game, he’ll have that “target on his back,” like you said.

        As for Korchinski, I see your point. Defensemen take longer to develop, and maybe the Hawks rushed him by putting him in the NHL at 19. Another year in junior or more time in Rockford could have helped. He reminds me a bit of Cole Sillinger in Columbus — strong rookie year, but struggled badly as a sophomore and ended up in the AHL. That’s the risk when you keep a young guy in the NHL too early. With Korchinski, the key is improving his physical play and tightening up his defensive-zone coverage. Patience is needed here.

        On Arty, I lean the other way from you. The way Davidson approached the summer — no big UFA signings, no splash trades — shows he wants his young core to get real NHL minutes. That’s why I believe Arty will be on the roster. And honestly, if you remove both Korchinski and Arty like you suggest, the blue line looks pretty thin: Vlasic, Murphy, Rinzel, Crevier, Kaiser, Nolan, and Del Mastro. Training camp will sort it out, but my gut says at least one, if not both, of KK and Arty will be in the top seven defensemen to start the year.

    • #23843
      Gramps28
      Participant

      Korchinski is ranked too high on everyone’s list. That is a draft position choice IMO. Vanacker will be a riser after this season. He was able to train this off-season as opposed to rehabbing like he had to last off-season.

    • #23849
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Interesting that everyone has Lardis so far down the list. AKA rpeters01.

      Glad to see you made it over.

    • #23864
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      I believe this is your first comment, so welcome to the Hockey Hot Stove family! Thanks for jumping in.

      About Korchinski — I actually have him slotted behind Rinzel and Levshunov, but ahead of Del Maestro and Allan. For me, that feels like the right spot right now.

      On Vanacker, you’re absolutely right. With a full off-season of training instead of rehabbing, he’s definitely a prospect to watch. Don’t be surprised if he climbs even higher on the pipeline list this year.

    • #23867
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Hey Rico, Dots, Dan Maloney, Tony-O and others,

      I created a forum with the topic “Blackhawks 2025-2026 General Comments” that could be used for discussion throughout the season. Here’s the link:

      Blackhawks 2025-2026 General Comments

      Coach Frenchy is doing a wonderful job providing us with almost daily Hawks content that provides us an opportunity to discuss his subject matter. Needless to say, after no fresh Blackhawks content for almost a year at the other site, Frenchy’s writings are a godsend.

      But, I thought a more general forum would be good to discuss other things that we want to talk about. I’m envisioning links to articles containing Hawks news, prospect news, lineup construction, game day chat, trades, signings, rumors and the like.

      P.S. Hope you don’t mind Frenchy.

    • #23875
      Gramps28
      Participant

      I believe this is your first comment, so welcome to the Hockey Hot Stove family! Thanks for jumping in.

      About Korchinski — I actually have him slotted behind Rinzel and Levshunov, but ahead of Del Maestro and Allan. For me, that feels like the right spot right now.

      On Vanacker, you’re absolutely right. With a full off-season of training instead of rehabbing, he’s definitely a prospect to watch. Don’t be surprised if he climbs even higher on the pipeline list this year.

      i have a couple of previous comments but now that others are filtering over, i will be around to annoy. ????

      I am also higher on Greene than most. I watched him a lot at BU. He is not flashy by any means but thinks the game very well. i can see him hanging around the league. I think his floor is a tyler motte type career.

      • #23900
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        You’ll never annoy me — I love talking hockey! I like the way you compared Greene to Tyler Motte, that’s a really good take. On top of that, Greene brings leadership — he was captain at BU last season — and now he’s a player to watch with the IceHogs. He plays a solid 200-foot game and, if he develops properly, I see him becoming a reliable 4th-line NHL player.

    • #23912
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I don’t have strong feelings on specific rankings between players.
      Some guys have a higher likelihood of securing an NHL job, but less likely to become very good.
      Some are the opposite– they will either be really good or complete busts.

      I do have a strong thought on Kevin Korchinski:
      Picked 7th overall, his progress to this point is disappointing.
      However, I am not of the opinion that they should “trade him while they can still get *something* for him”.
      I think they should keep trying him until he cannot be retained anymore.
      The Hawks gave up on Gustav Forsling days after he turned 23.
      The Canes (known for developing D-men) gave up on him 18 months later. We know how that turned out.

      I’m not saying KK is the next Forsling. KK was picked 120 spots higher, and should show more progress, sooner than a 5th round guy like Forsling.
      I’m saying that, even though he was such a high pick, he might just need a lot of time to develop.

      • #23946
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thanks for your comment. I really like how you compared Korchinski to Forsling — that’s a smart way to look at it.

        Maybe the Blackhawks rushed him a bit by keeping him in the NHL at 19 instead of giving him one more year in the WHL. Defensemen usually take longer to develop, and whether you’re drafted 7th overall or 23rd, the process isn’t a straight line. Prospects go through ups and downs before they figure it out.

        When Korchinski was drafted in 2022, the scouting reports were clear: excellent skater, strong on offense, but his defensive play needed work. He put up 65 points in 67 games that year, which showed his talent. In his rookie NHL season, 15 points wasn’t bad, but his defensive struggles stood out. On top of that, he still needs to play with more physicality and win more one-on-one battles.

        He actually reminds me a lot of Justin Barron — flashes of skill, but inconsistencies because of the lack of physical edge. That’s why I wouldn’t trade Korchinski at all. Give him two more years inside the Blackhawks system, let him grow into his game, and then we’ll know what he really is.

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