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  • #28230
    Assman22
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    I think Mr.G starts the year in Rockford unless Murphy is traded.

    More likely Grizz will be released from his PTO with Kaiser onboard to seek employment elsewhere.

    #28245
    BetweenTheDots
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    So in my opinion

    Vlasic Rinzel
    Kaiser Murphy
    DelMastro Crevier

    Possible Grecz

    This way you can keep
    Arty, Korch, Allan down on the farm working on their game

    I’ve read several articles about having to keep a stay at home defenseman with Arty? I think that’s the path of least resistance take. He didn’t look that much different in the Kulvers game as he did when he played with the Blackhawks unless he shows me no thoughtless plays in the preseason they have to do everything as an org to develop the defensive side of the game and when and when not to activate. If they do this and he does learn which i think he will, having Rinzel and Arty on the right side controlling both ends of the ice for 45 to 50 minutes of the game is an incredible weapon for the future of this team.

    #28263
    Assman22
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    So in my opinion

    Vlasic Rinzel
    Kaiser Murphy
    DelMastro Crevier

    Possible Grecz

    This way you can keep
    Arty, Korch, Allan down on the farm working on their game

    I’ve read several articles about having to keep a stay at home defenseman with Arty? I think that’s the path of least resistance take. He didn’t look that much different in the Kulvers game as he did when he played with the Blackhawks unless he shows me no thoughtless plays in the preseason they have to do everything as an org to develop the defensive side of the game and when and when not to activate. If they do this and he does learn which i think he will, having Rinzel and Arty on the right side controlling both ends of the ice for 45 to 50 minutes of the game is an incredible weapon for the future of this team.

    I’d be willing to bet only one of Arty or KK get sent to Rockford. Can’t really pair them together responsibly and both need top pairing minutes for development. I’m leaning towards Arty getting the nod so he can continue his development with guys that are more experienced than him and also think Murphy needs to be bumped to 3rd pairing TOI in hopes he can stay healthy until the TDL.

    #28268

    So in my opinion

    Vlasic Rinzel
    Kaiser Murphy
    DelMastro Crevier

    Possible Grecz

    This way you can keep
    Arty, Korch, Allan down on the farm working on their game

    I’ve read several articles about having to keep a stay at home defenseman with Arty? I think that’s the path of least resistance take. He didn’t look that much different in the Kulvers game as he did when he played with the Blackhawks unless he shows me no thoughtless plays in the preseason they have to do everything as an org to develop the defensive side of the game and when and when not to activate. If they do this and he does learn which i think he will, having Rinzel and Arty on the right side controlling both ends of the ice for 45 to 50 minutes of the game is an incredible weapon for the future of this team.

    I think they’re looking for 2K and Arty to develop at the NHL level. I think Allan gets traded?

    #28269
    Metalhead
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    If Grecz looks good (even ok+) in camp I wouldn’t be surprised if they slightly overpay him on a 1 year contract.
    His contract money could help them stay above the floor.

    The unknown cap hit / roster spot right now depends on the status of Brossoit.

    edit:
    I went down a rabbit hole w/ LTIR and regular IR rules.
    If they are allowed to place Weber on IR (instead of LTIR) then his salary counts against the cap floor
    but he does not use a roster spot. In that case the cap floor is not much of an issue for the Hawks.

    I could not tell if that’s allowed w/ a player who has not played for 4 full NHL seasons.
    (but it’s the NHL so definitely possible)

    #28275
    BetweenTheDots
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    Response to assman

    We’ll see but what better way for at least Arty or KK to get better defensively when they are similar active players in the ozone. You want a dman to activate at the right time, if you got 2 guys that can do it paired together what a weapon they become in the ozone, this notion that they can’t be good defensively playing together is minimizing the dynamics of what can really become a really good NHL pairing.

    #28277
    boilermaker
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    I went down a rabbit hole w/ LTIR and regular IR rules.
    If they are allowed to place Weber on IR (instead of LTIR) then his salary counts against the cap floor
    but he does not use a roster spot. In that case the cap floor is not much of an issue for the Hawks.

    I agree with you on the LTIR/IR rules. They can keep Weber and Brossoit on regular IR, use their salaries toward the cap, and fill their roster spots. The concern about keeping above the cap floor is overblown.

    #28286
    totem
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    https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/chicago-blackhawks/latest-news/kyle-davidson-gives-injury-updates-on-day-one-of-training-camp

    Injury updates. Brossoit looks like he is out for the year so probably will never play for CHI.

    Good news, Spellacy and Pridham should be only out for a little while.

    Ty Henry probably out for the season. Too bad because he has to be signed after this year or his rights are lost. Needed a good year at Erie to have a chance at a contract. CHI will probably have to look elsewhere for defense depth once the current logjam clears.

    #28290
    Metalhead
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    I agree with you on the LTIR/IR rules. They can keep Weber and Brossoit on regular IR

    Are you sure that they can do this?
    I was not able to verify that for certain.

    #28313
    Haru
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    Kantserov sure can fire the puck. Wicked just wicked!!

    https://x.com/ByScottPowers/status/1968788656451191144

    #28320
    wizardofi
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    Are you sure that they can do this?

    In the NHL, Injured Reserve (IR) allows a team to fill a roster spot for a player out for at least seven days but doesn’t provide salary cap relief. Long-Term Injured Reserve (LTIR) is for players out for at least 10 games and 24 days and provides the team with salary cap relief, allowing them to exceed the cap by the amount of the LTIR player’s salary

    #28322
    Mr Ricochet
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    The Grzelcyk situation comes down to roster construction. If the Blackhawks go with 7 defensemen and 14 forwards, Grzelcyk could find himself as the extra man. But if they carry 8 defensemen and 13 forwards, his experience gives him the edge.

    For a veteran like Grzelcyk, sitting out as a healthy scratch isn’t ideal, but it’s part of the job. For a young prospect, however, that role can stall development. They’re better off logging big minutes in Rockford than watching from the press box.

    The bigger question lies with Chicago’s top prospects. Players like Artyom Levshunov and Kevin Korchinski can’t just be sheltered on the third pair playing 12 minutes a night. They need to be in the top four, eating 15+ minutes, and seeing time on special teams.

    That’s the challenge of a rebuild stacked with young talent — too many prospects ready at once. In the short term, it can create lineup headaches and growing pains. But long term, if managed properly, it’s the kind of problem that turns into a payoff.

    Going into the season with 1 deeply experienced Dman in Murphy and the rest of the unit having less than 100 NHL games played ain’t wise. I don’t care how many of your young Dmen are blue chippers or can’t misses they are still just babies at this level. Some will be overwhelmed some will do ok but hit a wall but each one will have some sort of a problem acclimating into the toughest position to do so at this level.

    Gryz is a vet and can still play. Been on some good teams, knows his way around the league and has a fine profile to fit with this group. ……. You almost knew KD would add a vet to the backend but he was patient and got a Gryz at no cost.. Depending on camp of course but I see Gryz breaking camp with the club and having a role with this squad… Good fit, IMO. He’ll help keep things from going sideways and Knight, who’s an NHL starter for the first time, will appreciate Gryz a whole lot….

    #28343
    Metalhead
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    In the NHL, Injured Reserve (IR) allows a team to fill a roster spot for a player out for at least seven days but doesn’t provide salary cap relief. Long-Term Injured Reserve (LTIR) is for players out for at least 10 games and 24 days and provides the team with salary cap relief, allowing them to exceed the cap by the amount of the LTIR player’s salary

    Hi Wiz. I found that part of the rule distinction.
    What I could not find was specifically whether a team can assign *regular* IR to a player who has “qualified” for LTIR for years (like Weber)
    It’s clear abuse of the spirit of the cap floor.
    Like I said though, it’s the NHL so it might be allowed.

    #28345
    Mr Ricochet
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    I think Mr.G starts the year in Rockford unless Murphy is traded.

    More likely Grizz will be released from his PTO with Kaiser onboard to seek employment elsewhere.

    AssMan, are you comfortable with just Murphy as your only vet on defense and the rest young or straight up rookies with all having less than 100-150 NHL games with no safety net on the roster or even at RKF? … I think it’s just crazy for a club looking to be more competitive, without some crazy anchor contract vet from outside vesthe system, and a young stud goalie taking the reigns as an NHL starter for the first time in his NHL career.

    I love the idea of having a solid vet who can still play on 2 of the 3 D pairings. It gives Blashil some structure every system needs and still leaves 2-3 spots open for whichever kid/prospect plays best and earns a spot. The rest go to RKF and develops.

    #28347
    wizardofi
    Participant

    What I could not find was specifically whether a team can assign *regular* IR to a player who has “qualified” for LTIR for years (like Weber)

    It resets every July 1. They have to show up at the team site in Sept to be evaluated by the team doctors. After that it is up to the GM to put them on IR or LTIR. Once they are put on LTIR, they stay there until they are healthy or July 1, whichever comes first.

    Also, since the LTIR is over, they count against the cap over the summer. This can hamper some teams with what they can do in the offseason since they can only go over the cap by 10% in the offseason.

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