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Does having Juulson (less irreplaceable RR) in your top 6 to start the year lose you any games?
Does having a new coach/staff in the beginning of the season and learning his “system” lose you any games?
Top 6? VAN fans gave him pretty good reviews as a depth straight up defensive Dman. Pressing him higher than that could expose him. That was the word. The D is the area where they need to add, no doubt about that. The D zone system is essentially a penalty kill with a 3rd forward playing inside the box to take away passing lanes and jump in to provide puck support and an outlet if the Flyers pull the puck along the boards or perimeter. FLA executes this system with tremendous precision. Their puck support is elite. This shouldn’t be difficult to pick up for a competent NHL player. Of course, I’m not suggesting they’ll play it better than FLA, I’m saying it will be an upgrade worth two or more games over what Tortorella was running out there . . . with intermittent at best puck support.
your answer is no; those 2 scenarios won’t lose them any games. got it.
Does having Juulson (less irreplaceable RR) in your top 6 to start the year lose you any games?
Does having a new coach/staff in the beginning of the season and learning his “system” lose you any games?
Top 6? VAN fans gave him pretty good reviews as a depth straight up defensive Dman. Pressing him higher than that could expose him. That was the word. The D is the area where they need to add, no doubt about that. The D zone system is essentially a penalty kill with a 3rd forward playing inside the box to take away passing lanes and jump in to provide puck support and an outlet if the Flyers pull the puck along the boards or perimeter. FLA executes this system with tremendous precision. Their puck support is elite. This shouldn’t be difficult to pick up for a competent NHL player. Of course, I’m not suggesting they’ll play it better than FLA, I’m saying it will be an upgrade worth two or more games over what Tortorella was running out there . . . with intermittent at best puck support.
Never said Tocchet was roadkill, I compared roadkill as an improvement to what Torts was doing. 15 points takes the Flyers from last in the division to making the playoffs (using last year’s numbers). Are you predicting the Flyers make the playoffs? That would also be more points than Vancouver had last year, do you view the Flyers as having a better roster than Vancouver?
I posted an article earlier which talked about Tocchet’s coaching history and reasons for concern which came to the conclusion that Tocchet being the catalyst you want him to be is more wishful thinking than proven track record. You never really addressed the points made in that article. Until you do, it sounds more like you want to believe rather than having an actual reason to believe.
Maybe he’ll prove everyone wrong and again he can’t do any worse than the last guy. He’s supposed to be a great communicator with the players which is a world of difference from the coach who would bench the captain of the team without telling him why.
I’m predicting the Flyers will be noticeably better this year. Individually and as a team. There were teams out west that were more than a level below the Flyers last year. Starting to hear a bit how truly awful things were in ANA, even though they had 4 more points, for example. That makes things a little difficult to compare points over conferences. Everybody out west feasted on NSH, SJ and CHI. 91 points wouldn’t have gotten you into the playoffs out west and it was a fluke it did in the east. Vancouver has way better goaltending! Lankinen or Demko, if healthy, are both better than anything the Flyers have. Ideally, Vladar is our Lankinen.
“Everyone” is not pessimistic about the job Tocchet will do. Zegras wins them a couple or more games. Vladar over the two Russian catastrophes wins them a couple or more games. Tocchet’s coaching wins them a couple or more games. Five points for each upgrade gets them a 15 point increase.
Does having Juulson (less irreplaceable RR) in your top 6 to start the year lose you any games?
Does having a new coach/staff in the beginning of the season and learning his “system” lose you any games?
I’m predicting the Flyers will be noticeably better this year. Individually and as a team. There were teams out west that were more than a level below the Flyers last year. Starting to hear a bit how truly awful things were in ANA, even though they had 4 more points, for example. That makes things a little difficult to compare points over conferences. Everybody out west feasted on NSH, SJ and CHI. 91 points wouldn’t have gotten you into the playoffs out west and it was a fluke it did in the east. Vancouver has way better goaltending! Lankinen or Demko, if healthy, are both better than anything the Flyers have. Ideally, Vladar is our Lankinen.
“Everyone” is not pessimistic about the job Tocchet will do. Zegras wins them a couple or more games. Vladar over the two Russian catastrophes wins them a couple or more games. Tocchet’s coaching wins them a couple or more games. Five points for each upgrade gets them a 15 point increase.
Who isn’t pessimistic that Tocchet can lead them to the promised land that isn’t part of the Comcast family? Regardless, at least you are giving a reason behind your optimism. Personally i think more than Torts but not the bump you envision which will, once again, leave them in no mans land without a path forward to get those cornerstones they need. We shall see how the games play out.
I love that the Flyers are at the point where every roster, coaching, and front office move suddenly fits this description.
The living embodiment of the “hold my beer” meme?
Never said Tocchet was roadkill, I compared roadkill as an improvement to what Torts was doing. 15 points takes the Flyers from last in the division to making the playoffs (using last year’s numbers). Are you predicting the Flyers make the playoffs? That would also be more points than Vancouver had last year, do you view the Flyers as having a better roster than Vancouver?
I posted an article earlier which talked about Tocchet’s coaching history and reasons for concern which came to the conclusion that Tocchet being the catalyst you want him to be is more wishful thinking than proven track record. You never really addressed the points made in that article. Until you do, it sounds more like you want to believe rather than having an actual reason to believe.
Maybe he’ll prove everyone wrong and again he can’t do any worse than the last guy. He’s supposed to be a great communicator with the players which is a world of difference from the coach who would bench the captain of the team without telling him why.
I love that the Flyers are at the point where every roster, coaching, and front office move suddenly fits this description.
Never said Tocchet was roadkill, I compared roadkill as an improvement to what Torts was doing. 15 points takes the Flyers from last in the division to making the playoffs (using last year’s numbers). Are you predicting the Flyers make the playoffs? That would also be more points than Vancouver had last year, do you view the Flyers as having a better roster than Vancouver?
I posted an article earlier which talked about Tocchet’s coaching history and reasons for concern which came to the conclusion that Tocchet being the catalyst you want him to be is more wishful thinking than proven track record. You never really addressed the points made in that article. Until you do, it sounds more like you want to believe rather than having an actual reason to believe.
Maybe he’ll prove everyone wrong and again he can’t do any worse than the last guy. He’s supposed to be a great communicator with the players which is a world of difference from the coach who would bench the captain of the team without telling him why.
I’m predicting the Flyers will be noticeably better this year. Individually and as a team. There were teams out west that were more than a level below the Flyers last year. Starting to hear a bit how truly awful things were in ANA, even though they had 4 more points, for example. That makes things a little difficult to compare points over conferences. Everybody out west feasted on NSH, SJ and CHI. 91 points wouldn’t have gotten you into the playoffs out west and it was a fluke it did in the east. Vancouver has way better goaltending! Lankinen or Demko, if healthy, are both better than anything the Flyers have. Ideally, Vladar is our Lankinen.
“Everyone” is not pessimistic about the job Tocchet will do. Zegras wins them a couple or more games. Vladar over the two Russian catastrophes wins them a couple or more games. Tocchet’s coaching wins them a couple or more games. Five points for each upgrade gets them a 15 point increase.
So DB said some nice things about Torts on the way out? So what? Torts is not the coach any more. Again with the needle moving. More specifics please. This team is good for an extra 15 points this year. Roadkill Rick Tocchet will see to that. How is that a problem? How many points does a team need to improve to move their needle? What’s more important: Needle moving or difference making?
Never said Tocchet was roadkill, I compared roadkill as an improvement to what Torts was doing. 15 points takes the Flyers from last in the division to making the playoffs (using last year’s numbers). Are you predicting the Flyers make the playoffs? That would also be more points than Vancouver had last year, do you view the Flyers as having a better roster than Vancouver?
I posted an article earlier which talked about Tocchet’s coaching history and reasons for concern which came to the conclusion that Tocchet being the catalyst you want him to be is more wishful thinking than proven track record. You never really addressed the points made in that article. Until you do, it sounds more like you want to believe rather than having an actual reason to believe.
Maybe he’ll prove everyone wrong and again he can’t do any worse than the last guy. He’s supposed to be a great communicator with the players which is a world of difference from the coach who would bench the captain of the team without telling him why.
DB said that he still preferred to bring Torts back if there had been any way possible and remains a strong Torts supporter through everything? This is not a franchise that’s learned one thing from it’s past mistakes. I think Tocchet is an upgrade over Torts, I think roadkill is an upgrade over Torts so low bar. I doubt anyone would disagree with that but does he move the needle? I’m having trouble finding anyone who believes Tocchet moves the needle based on his track record.
So DB said some nice things about Torts on the way out? So what? Torts is not the coach any more. Again with the needle moving. More specifics please. This team is good for an extra 15 points this year. Roadkill Rick Tocchet will see to that. How is that a problem? How many points does a team need to improve to move their needle? What’s more important: Needle moving or difference making?
