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  • #40341
    Flyers_01
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    exactly, thanks for proving my point.

    So you’re OK with a designated fighter if they can score 18 goals? Good to know.

    There’s a difference between hockey players who can fight vs goons on skates. Loved Wayne Simmonds in his heyday. Chris Simon was great in his role with the caps. There are players who are assets on a normal shift where there isn’t a fight and there are those that are not.
    ND is not an asset on the ice.

    #40344
    FlyerFrank
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    ND is not an asset on the ice.

    Simmonds was a fine and consistent player with 6 20+ goal seasons. Simon was good for a while but became an absolute league-wide safety hazard over time and things ended tragically for him. Neither are really good comps. A fairer comp: Gadjovich who Florida somehow found a lineup spot for in every conference finals and Cup finals game last year.

    #40359
    yes its me 2050
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    #40364
    VonZipper
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    https://x.com/justingiam/status/1975970406067757490

    There’s ugly, then there’s this.

    #40370
    yes its me 2050
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    There’s ugly, then there’s this.

    Ginning top 4. Seeler top pair. Dvorak top line. Already yo-yo’ing the jett around having him on the wing (assuming that’s what they do) . A shitty vet blocking the young Russian. What a roster they constructed. Go flyers.

    What line gives you a better chance to win:

    Russian- the jett – GH

    Or

    ND – Abols – GH

    #40390
    Trox88
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    Whew, that top 6 would have a hard time consistently winning with top 10 goaltending. Briere better be gearing up to make trades to improve this roster, waiting till the summer when there will be scraps left in free agency will not get it done. At least, I expect the team to score more goals, but somehow the ability to prevent goals has gotten significantly worse from last season, which I thought would be very difficult to achieve.

    #40413
    Flyers_01
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    There’s ugly, then there’s this.

    https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/flyers_sergei_bobrovsky_trade_is_the_worst_in_nhl_history/s1_16448_42868794

    Even over 13 years later, the Flyers are feeling the double whammy of it all. First, Bobrovsky is chasing his third consecutive championship ring with the Florida Panthers. Second, Bryzgalov is still receiving checks from Philadelphia to not play for their team—the buyout penalty runs through 2027. Finally, last season, the Flyers posted the NHL’s worst team save percentage of the 21st century: .879, according to QuantHockey.

    Who do you blame more, Snider or Laviolette?

    What’s funny is DB was on the roster for the trade and he is the lead architect of NHL’s worst team save percentage of the 21st century. I guess the Flyers aren’t just setting records with their league worst power play. I hope DB puts both accomplishments on his resume.

    #40432
    VonZipper
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    https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/flyers_sergei_bobrovsky_trade_is_the_worst_in_nhl_history/s1_16448_42868794

    Even over 13 years later, the Flyers are feeling the double whammy of it all. First, Bobrovsky is chasing his third consecutive championship ring with the Florida Panthers. Second, Bryzgalov is still receiving checks from Philadelphia to not play for their team—the buyout penalty runs through 2027. Finally, last season, the Flyers posted the NHL’s worst team save percentage of the 21st century: .879, according to QuantHockey.

    Who do you blame more, Snider or Laviolette?

    What’s funny is DB was on the roster for the trade and he is the lead architect of NHL’s worst team save percentage of the 21st century. I guess the Flyers aren’t just setting records with their league worst power play. I hope DB puts both accomplishments on his resume.

    While Ed Snider went full Jerry Jones, both he and Laviolette deserve blame as both made panic moves that led to Bobrovsky wanting out.

    #40453
    Bill Meltzer
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    #40668
    Flyers_01
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    While Ed Snider went full Jerry Jones, both he and Laviolette deserve blame as both made panic moves that led to Bobrovsky wanting out.

    I blame Lavi more for the way he handled Bob which brought about the crisis. Snider never looked beyond the current season and it never mattered until the salary cap. For better or worse the Flyers were always in the mix for every free agent. Snider was just being himself given how Lavi handled the goalies the previous year. The move was bold even for Snider though with that 9 year contract but old rich guys near the end tend to ignore any and all red flags to get what they want.

    Who’s to Blame for the Sergei Bobrovsky Debacle?

    #40695
    VonZipper
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    I blame Lavi more for the way he handled Bob which brought about the crisis. Snider never looked beyond the current season and it never mattered until the salary cap. For better or worse the Flyers were always in the mix for every free agent. Snider was just being himself given how Lavi handled the goalies the previous year. The move was bold even for Snider though with that 9 year contract but old rich guys near the end tend to ignore any and all red flags to get what they want.

    Sadly, the Flyers still have yet to accept the reality that is the salary cap, and current state of free agency where top-end talent rarely (if ever) makes it to the market.

    #40710
    Flyers_01
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    I blame Lavi more for the way he handled Bob which brought about the crisis. Snider never looked beyond the current season and it never mattered until the salary cap. For better or worse the Flyers were always in the mix for every free agent. Snider was just being himself given how Lavi handled the goalies the previous year. The move was bold even for Snider though with that 9 year contract but old rich guys near the end tend to ignore any and all red flags to get what they want.

    Sadly, the Flyers still have yet to accept the reality that is the salary cap, and current state of free agency where top-end talent rarely (if ever) makes it to the market.

    It does feel like the Flyers plan, if you can call it that, is to keep doing this. The Flyers are pinning their hopes on a franchise center and a franchise dman hitting UFA and then being able to outbid everyone for them.

    #40715
    VonZipper
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    It does feel like the Flyers plan, if you can call it that, is to keep doing this. The Flyers are pinning their hopes on a franchise center and a franchise dman hitting UFA and then being able to outbid everyone for them.

    It’s why I hold little to no hope this franchise will ever progress… just doesn’t seem like there’s anyone in the organizaiton in touch with reality.

    #40718
    yes its me 2050
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    It does feel like the Flyers plan, if you can call it that, is to keep doing this. The Flyers are pinning their hopes on a franchise center and a franchise dman hitting UFA and then being able to outbid everyone for them.

    It’s why I hold little to no hope this franchise will ever progress… just doesn’t seem like there’s anyone in the organizaiton in touch with reality.

    the flyers plan to go “big” game hunting in the summer of 2026 seems to be falling by the wayside. can’t wait to see how they pivot off that plan.

    #40726
    Flyers_01
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    the flyers plan to go “big” game hunting in the summer of 2026 seems to be falling by the wayside. can’t wait to see how they pivot off that plan.

    You seem to be alluding to this article but you aren’t wrong. The Flyers peter pan hopes of wishing upon a star next year are fading to black.

    Loved this tidbit : Going further down the list, the names become a bit more familiar (Ryan Poehling, Scott Laughton) and a lot less appealing.

    That would be a laugh riot.

    Flyers quickly running out of big-move options for next NHL offseason

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