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there was never a rebuild therefore the flyers “had” to keep him. key core player. true flyer.
this is just another wasted year spinning their wheels. until the dumb ass flyers fans wake up and stop going to the games, nothing will change
Said this about the Voracek extension a decade ago. Not that I had a problem with the player, but we were fed the rebuild line at that time as well, and he seemed like an unneeded luxury that could have brought a decent return to help that supposed rebuild along.
Funny thing… the “culture” is there. Problem is, it’s a culture of questionable decisions that really never play out in the Flyers favor.
there was never a rebuild therefore the flyers “had” to keep him. key core player. true flyer.
this is just another wasted year spinning their wheels. until the dumb ass flyers fans wake up and stop going to the games, nothing will change
Said this about the Voracek extension a decade ago. Not that I had a problem with the player, but we were fed the rebuild line at that time as well, and he seemed like an unneeded luxury that could have brought a decent return to help that supposed rebuild along.
Funny thing… the “culture” is there. Problem is, it’s a culture of questionable decisions that really never play out in the Flyers favor.
jake is/was a loser. every wonder why no contending teams never had any interest in him despite the numbers he put up?
there is no plan, no path to contention, nothing but hope and luck.
jake is/was a loser. every wonder why no contending teams never had any interest in him despite the numbers he put up?
there is no plan, no path to contention, nothing but hope and luck.
Nothing but “the Flyers way.”
jake is/was a loser. every wonder why no contending teams never had any interest in him despite the numbers he put up?
there is no plan, no path to contention, nothing but hope and luck.
Nothing but “the Flyers way.”
flyers hockey. born to be a flyer. gold standard.
The flyers think their name carries clout. It doesn’t. these young players today, all they know about the flyers is being losers the last 15 years. This is what they have seen growing up. This is what they have witnessed. Flyers are just simply out of touch with reality.
Contain their top two lines with ours, fight their 4th line with ours and hope the Cates line makes the extra shot. That looks like the plan.
Who saw this coming? Hahahaha! The Cates line badly outplayed FLA’s 3rd line. The orgasms over how well they played from some folks reveal a lack of understanding about actual on-ice matchups. FLA’s 3rd line is a problem for them against deeper teams. Of course, the Cates line delivered, which was obviously needed. The Flyers top 2 lines did not outplay FLA’s top 2 lines. FLA’s top 2 lines are still great. When Barkov and Tkachuk are healthy, FLA has 3 great lines. They still had their top tier D and goaltending. Vladar was great. Game came down to who made the extra shot. It was Marchand. He outplayed Konecny who failed to bury a much better chance. D held up well enough under the circumstances.
Opening Night Wrapup: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Opening Night Wrapup: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Apart from some early turnovers (none costly), Travis Sanheim was a rock of strength. By the end of the first period, he was on a pace to play north of 30 minutes. Ultimately, he skated 27:15. They were hard minutes, too. That’s not sustainable for an entire season.I would also like to add that playing Coots 20+ minutes a night is also not sustainable. He averaged just over 17 minutes a game last year and it felt like he broke down physically.
This is not a team that should be thinking or talking about the playoffs.
Dvorak is the Laughton replacement. He is not a top 6 player, but Flyer HCs seem intent on playing them in that that role. I have no issue with the contract, but my hope is he moves down the lineup quickly. No issue managing Luchanko and building him up slowly. Grebenkin has earned the right to be in a top 9 spot and hopefully is inserted there against CAR.
Dvorak is the Laughton replacement. He is not a top 6 player, but Flyer HCs seem intent on playing them in that that role. I have no issue with the contract, but my hope is he moves down the lineup quickly. No issue managing Luchanko and building him up slowly. Grebenkin has earned the right to be in a top 9 spot and hopefully is inserted there against CAR.
Grebenkin is in the lineup tomorrow. Luchanko may be as well. Deslauriers and possibly Abols come out. Tocc said twice this week that he wants to get both of the rookies into the lineup without sitting them for too long (specific to Grebenkin, he said the Russian would play Saturday if he wasn’t in the opener).
Re:Dvorak, the Flyers have two roster problems that they probably can’t solve simultaneously with the current roster.
* They need more offensive production, BUT
* They also desperately need to play better team D and lower the GAA.So when you look at the better offensive players up front, you find that:
* Michkov is below average defensively.
* Zegras is below average defensively.
* Konecny is strictly average at most defensively (but that’s a big jump from where he started)
* Tippett is also average at best defensively (he, too, started out below-average)
* They don’t want to separate Foerster from Cates/Brink line.What Tocchet is trying to do, but may not be able to keep with, is spread thing out a bit. He’s trying to live with Tippett-Zegras-Konecny line as “2/3 just adequate enough” defensively not to kill you while seeking offense. He wanted two defensively responsible linemates for Michkov because he has a long way to go still defensively. Grebenkin is prone to going to the wrong spots defensively and to turning over pucks coming through the neutral zone.
They need to find some way to get more offense and at least lower the defensive issues a bit (I’m only talking forwards here, not the mess that is the blueline).
Dvorak is the Laughton replacement. He is not a top 6 player, but Flyer HCs seem intent on playing them in that that role. I have no issue with the contract, but my hope is he moves down the lineup quickly. No issue managing Luchanko and building him up slowly. Grebenkin has earned the right to be in a top 9 spot and hopefully is inserted there against CAR.
Grebenkin is in the lineup tomorrow. Luchanko may be as well. Deslauriers and possibly Abols come out. Tocc said twice this week that he wants to get both of the rookies into the lineup without sitting them for too long (specific to Grebenkin, he said the Russian would play Saturday if he wasn’t in the opener).
Re:Dvorak, the Flyers have two roster problems that they probably can’t solve simultaneously with the current roster.
* They need more offensive production, BUT
* They also desperately need to play better team D and lower the GAA.So when you look at the better offensive players up front, you find that:
* Michkov is below average defensively.
* Zegras is below average defensively.
* Konecny is strictly average at most defensively (but that’s a big jump from where he started)
* Tippett is also average at best defensively (he, too, started out below-average)
* They don’t want to separate Foerster from Cates/Brink line.What Tocchet is trying to do, but may not be able to keep with, is spread thing out a bit. He’s trying to live with Tippett-Zegras-Konecny line as “2/3 just adequate enough” defensively not to kill you while seeking offense. He wanted two defensively responsible linemates for Michkov because he has a long way to go still defensively. Grebenkin is prone to going to the wrong spots defensively and to turning over pucks coming through the neutral zone.
They need to find some way to get more offense and at least lower the defensive issues a bit (I’m only talking forwards here, not the mess that is the blueline).
The Russian came prepared to camp to win a job, played well earned a spot and you sit him. Great coaching. They rave about the jett and sits in favor of……the Olympian.
You play both young guys and live with the mistakes. at least for now unless both are putrid. There is zero reason not too.
Dvorak is the Laughton replacement. He is not a top 6 player, but Flyer HCs seem intent on playing them in that that role. I have no issue with the contract, but my hope is he moves down the lineup quickly. No issue managing Luchanko and building him up slowly. Grebenkin has earned the right to be in a top 9 spot and hopefully is inserted there against CAR.
Grebenkin is in the lineup tomorrow. Luchanko may be as well. Deslauriers and possibly Abols come out. Tocc said twice this week that he wants to get both of the rookies into the lineup without sitting them for too long (specific to Grebenkin, he said the Russian would play Saturday if he wasn’t in the opener).
Re:Dvorak, the Flyers have two roster problems that they probably can’t solve simultaneously with the current roster.
* They need more offensive production, BUT
* They also desperately need to play better team D and lower the GAA.So when you look at the better offensive players up front, you find that:
* Michkov is below average defensively.
* Zegras is below average defensively.
* Konecny is strictly average at most defensively (but that’s a big jump from where he started)
* Tippett is also average at best defensively (he, too, started out below-average)
* They don’t want to separate Foerster from Cates/Brink line.What Tocchet is trying to do, but may not be able to keep with, is spread thing out a bit. He’s trying to live with Tippett-Zegras-Konecny line as “2/3 just adequate enough” defensively not to kill you while seeking offense. He wanted two defensively responsible linemates for Michkov because he has a long way to go still defensively. Grebenkin is prone to going to the wrong spots defensively and to turning over pucks coming through the neutral zone.
I appreciate your insight, but I will argue that Tippett and are a lot closer defensively to Michkov then further apart. Only 1 game sample size, but placing Michkov (who has the expectation of developing into the team’s best player) with 2 above average forwards defensive who are not really gifted puck carrying seems like a wonky fit. I understand not wanting to break up the Cates line, but maybe breaking it up gets better balance throughout 3 lines as the roster is currently constructed. Interested to see what happens when Luchanko and Grebenkin get inserted into the lineup.
They need to find some way to get more offense and at least lower the defensive issues a bit (I’m only talking forwards here, not the mess that is the blueline).
The Russian came prepared to camp to win a job, played well earned a spot and you sit him. Great coaching. They rave about the jett and sits in favor of……the Olympian.
You play both young guys and live with the mistakes. at least for now unless both are putrid. There is zero reason not too.
The Jett hype is turning into vaporware. First last year and now this year. Every time he hit the NHL ice in 2024 he made the brain trust look bad but if he doesn’t play all you have is the hype. The main purpose seems to be DB and Jonesy patting themselves on the back. Play the kid or send him back. He can’t go the college route? It’s your own damn fault for trying to force him onto the roster last year.
ND should never play against Greb or Jett if they are available. This old school crap from a franchise that hasn’t been relevant in 15 years and needs to develop these kids is ridiculous.
At least in Tocchet they have a coach that hasn’t quit on his team in the middle of the season or abused his players. Sadly that’s a low bar to clear from DB’s best bud who he still preferred over Tocchet.
Maybe just maybe the Flyers should stop trying to shoehorn a piss poor team into the playoffs and start a rebuild?
The Jett hype is turning into vaporware. First last year and now this year. Every time he hit the NHL ice in 2024 he made the brain trust look bad but if he doesn’t play all you have is the hype. The main purpose seems to be DB and Jonesy patting themselves on the back. Play the kid or send him back. He can’t go the college route? It’s your own damn fault for trying to force him onto the roster last year.
ND should never play against Greb or Jett if they are available. This old school crap from a franchise that hasn’t been relevant in 15 years and needs to develop these kids is ridiculous.
At least in Tocchet they have a coach that hasn’t quit on his team in the middle of the season or abused his players. Sadly that’s a low bar to clear from DB’s best bud who he still preferred over Tocchet.
Maybe just maybe the Flyers should stop trying to shoehorn a piss poor team into the playoffs and start a rebuild?
Not sure how it works, but wasn’t he ineligible for college a week after the draft when, in a panic move after the Gauthier fiasco, Briere signed him to his ELC?
Flyers GMs seem to have a thing for compounding their mistakes.
What Tocchet is trying to do, but may not be able to keep with, is spread thing out a bit. He’s trying to live with Tippett-Zegras-Konecny line as “2/3 just adequate enough” defensively not to kill you while seeking offense. He wanted two defensively responsible linemates for Michkov because he has a long way to go still defensively.
I think Tocchet’s lines were more about matching up against FLA and he won’t stick with those combinations long term. Dvorak remaining with Couturier might be an option against the Aho line in CAR. That’s CAR’s main threat and they don’t have FLA’s D or goaltending. Still, they were a bad matchup last year.
Not sure how it works, but wasn’t he ineligible for college a week after the draft when, in a panic move after the Gauthier fiasco, Briere signed him to his ELC?
Yes, you are correct. I keep getting the reason for his college ineligibility wrong. Good catch. I’m just glad Martone can play in college this year.
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