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September 24, 2025 at 1:56 pm #37510
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Participantthey only have 2 spots open. assuming nd is the 13th forward; which one shouldn’t assume.
unless they move cates or dvorak to the wing that would leave 2 wing spots open. That would exclude the jett.
If one of those 2 is moved, then clearly the 4th line center spot is up for grabs. Abols has been used on the wing in both games. Tells me they probably don’t see him as an option for 4th line center. if they do then odd not to play at center.
never know what will fall on the waiver wire either.
still pushing that brink doesn’t have a spot locked up. good stuff.
What makes you so sure they won’t use either Cates or Dvorak on the wing in season? If Tocchet wants the best possible talent in his Top 9, that’s the way to do it. Cates and Dvorak both are too good to be 4th liners. Abols can win draws. He’s exceeded my expectations so far and that does make a Luchanko decision more interesting. Brink doesn’t have a Top 12 roster spot locked. His situation, along with Deslauriers to an extent, are similar. All other things being close to equal, you go with the bigger guy. Based on last night, Deslauriers isn’t close to equal. He’s a designated fighter. We’ll see how much Tocchet values that. His fight woke the team up a bit last night. I can also see Brink and Deslauriers as 13th and 14th forwards on this team.
September 24, 2025 at 2:13 pm #37516yes its me 2050
Participantthey only have 2 spots open. assuming nd is the 13th forward; which one shouldn’t assume.
unless they move cates or dvorak to the wing that would leave 2 wing spots open. That would exclude the jett.
If one of those 2 is moved, then clearly the 4th line center spot is up for grabs. Abols has been used on the wing in both games. Tells me they probably don’t see him as an option for 4th line center. if they do then odd not to play at center.
never know what will fall on the waiver wire either.
still pushing that brink doesn’t have a spot locked up. good stuff.
What makes you so sure they won’t use either Cates or Dvorak on the wing in season? If Tocchet wants the best possible talent in his Top 9, that’s the way to do it. Cates and Dvorak both are too good to be 4th liners. Abols can win draws. He’s exceeded my expectations so far and that does make a Luchanko decision more interesting. Brink doesn’t have a Top 12 roster spot locked. His situation, along with Deslauriers to an extent, are similar. All other things being close to equal, you go with the bigger guy. Based on last night, Deslauriers isn’t close to equal. He’s a designated fighter. We’ll see how much Tocchet values that. His fight woke the team up a bit last night. I can also see Brink and Deslauriers as 13th and 14th forwards on this team.
– Never said they wouldn’t. in fact, I have said repeatedly. Dvorak will end up on the wing. Best lineup has both as centers which would allow you to play bump and the Russian.
– Again, abols has been used as a winger. If they see him as a nhl center then it is very odd to not use him as such in the preseason don’t you think.
– The jett to me has no business being in the nhl currently. Send him back as he has plenty to work on.
– Brink 100% has a locked-up spot. Foolish to think otherwise. His and ND situation are not similar to any extent. ND stinks. He has no business playing in either the nhl/ahl. He offers nothing that helps your team win. The % are higher he helps you lose. I will be shocked if they waive ND. Do that and have abols as your 13th forward. Need that “fear” factor ND brings.
September 24, 2025 at 2:44 pm #37525FlyerFrank
Participant– Never said they wouldn’t. in fact, I have said repeatedly. Dvorak will end up on the wing. Best lineup has both as centers which would allow you to play bump and the Russian.
– Again, abols has been used as a winger. If they see him as a nhl center then it is very odd to not use him as such in the preseason don’t you think.
– The jett to me has no business being in the nhl currently. Send him back as he has plenty to work on.
– Brink 100% has a locked-up spot. Foolish to think otherwise. His and ND situation are not similar to any extent. ND stinks. He has no business playing in either the nhl/ahl. He offers nothing that helps your team win. The % are higher he helps you lose. I will be shocked if they waive ND. Do that and have abols as your 13th forward. Need that “fear” factor ND brings.
They can play Bump and Grebenkin with Cates or Dvorak on the wing.
GREBENKIN COUTURIER MICHKOV
DVORAK ZEGRAS KONECNY
FOERSTER CATES TIPPETT
BUMP ABOLS HATHAWAYAbols is reasonably versatile. How is that a problem?
They’re still holding their potential juniors: Nesbitt, Gill, Luchanko. If Luchanko has so much to work on, why not keep him here and give him some idea of what he needs to upgrade?
I fully support trading Brink to Carolina so you can go root for them. It’s over here for him, just a matter of when. Get something for him while he still has value. That .5 PPG last year was a mirage. Cates and Foerster carried that line. Get Tippett on their RW.
September 24, 2025 at 2:57 pm #37526yes its me 2050
Participant– Never said they wouldn’t. in fact, I have said repeatedly. Dvorak will end up on the wing. Best lineup has both as centers which would allow you to play bump and the Russian.
– Again, abols has been used as a winger. If they see him as a nhl center then it is very odd to not use him as such in the preseason don’t you think.
– The jett to me has no business being in the nhl currently. Send him back as he has plenty to work on.
– Brink 100% has a locked-up spot. Foolish to think otherwise. His and ND situation are not similar to any extent. ND stinks. He has no business playing in either the nhl/ahl. He offers nothing that helps your team win. The % are higher he helps you lose. I will be shocked if they waive ND. Do that and have abols as your 13th forward. Need that “fear” factor ND brings.
They can play Bump and Grebenkin with Cates or Dvorak on the wing.
GREBENKIN COUTURIER MICHKOV
DVORAK ZEGRAS KONECNY
FOERSTER CATES TIPPETT
BUMP ABOLS HATHAWAYAbols is reasonably versatile. How is that a problem?
They’re still holding their potential juniors: Nesbitt, Gill, Luchanko. If Luchanko has so much to work on, why not keep him here and give him some idea of what he needs to upgrade?
I fully support trading Brink to Carolina so you can go root for them. It’s over here for him, just a matter of when. Get something for him while he still has value. That .5 PPG last year was a mirage. Cates and Foerster carried that line. Get Tippett on their RW.
That is not the best lineup. Now all of sudden you’re an abols guy. Too funny.
Him getting traded is irrelevant. Bump, the Russian, the jett, abols, or any other rookie is not taking brinks place in the lineup come opening night.
Who said abols being “versatile” is a problem. Why are they not using him as a center currently if they have any intentions of using him there at the NHL level. Would really love to hear your professional opinion.
Still holding their potential juniors? Meaning what? It is common procedure to let those types soak up the atmosphere. Have the even had any cuts yet?
Where did I say not to keep the jett around until the end. Never even implied it in any way.
Not sure what your fascination is with Carolina.
September 24, 2025 at 3:09 pm #37533FlyerFrank
ParticipantThat is not the best lineup. Now all of sudden you’re an abols guy. Too funny.
Him getting traded is irrelevant. Bump, the Russian, the jett, abols, or any other rookie is not taking brinks place in the lineup come opening night.
Who said abols being “versatile” is a problem. Why are they not using him as a center currently if they have any intentions of using him there at the NHL level. Would really love to hear your professional opinion.
Still holding their potential juniors? Meaning what? It is common procedure to let those types soak up the atmosphere. Have the even had any cuts yet?
Where did I say not to keep the jett around until the end. Never even implied it in any way.
Not sure what your fascination is with Carolina.
I’m not allowed to be unsold on a player and then adjust when I see him play at a higher level? They have lots of guys to look at in the middle. I wouldn’t read too much into it.
How much longer do you seriously think Brink will be around?
I still think Jett will get the 8 game look at season’s start. You like speedy players, so why the Jett hate? Oh I forgot, he’s a Flyer.
I love watching the Canes play. They’re stacked with small, speedy, skilled needle movers.
September 24, 2025 at 3:22 pm #37535yes its me 2050
ParticipantThat is not the best lineup. Now all of sudden you’re an abols guy. Too funny.
Him getting traded is irrelevant. Bump, the Russian, the jett, abols, or any other rookie is not taking brinks place in the lineup come opening night.
Who said abols being “versatile” is a problem. Why are they not using him as a center currently if they have any intentions of using him there at the NHL level. Would really love to hear your professional opinion.
Still holding their potential juniors? Meaning what? It is common procedure to let those types soak up the atmosphere. Have the even had any cuts yet?
Where did I say not to keep the jett around until the end. Never even implied it in any way.
Not sure what your fascination is with Carolina.
I’m not allowed to be unsold on a player and then adjust when I see him play at a higher level? They have lots of guys to look at in the middle. I wouldn’t read too much into it.
How much longer do you seriously think Brink will be around?
I still think Jett will get the 8 game look at season’s start. You like speedy players, so why the Jett hate? Oh I forgot, he’s a Flyer.
I love watching the Canes play. They’re stacked with small, speedy, skilled needle movers.
– Who are the lots of guys they need to look at for this season as a 4th line center
– Doesn’t matter how long he will be around. Has nothing to do with you saying he isn’t a lock to be in the top 12 this season; of which he is 100%. His production will dictate his future.
– No jett hate at all. He is a center not a winger. Don’t think he should be in the nhl at this time. His lack of offense is worrisome. Hasn’t shown anything offensively that he belongs. Didn’t dominate juniors either.
– Canes > flyers. Have been for over how many years now. Not gonna change anytime soon. Those small speedy wingers are why they cant get over the hump. They need to follow the flyers blueprint. I bet if they offered a 1st for GH flyers would decline.
September 24, 2025 at 3:41 pm #37543FlyerFrank
Participant– Who are the lots of guys they need to look at for this season as a 4th line center
– Doesn’t matter how long he will be around. Has nothing to do with you saying he isn’t a lock to be in the top 12 this season; of which he is 100%. His production will dictate his future.
– No jett hate at all. He is a center not a winger. Don’t think he should be in the nhl at this time. His lack of offense is worrisome. Hasn’t shown anything offensively that he belongs. Didn’t dominate juniors either.
– Canes > flyers. Have been for over how many years now. Not gonna change anytime soon. Those small speedy wingers are why they cant get over the hump. They need to follow the flyers blueprint. I bet if they offered a 1st for GH flyers would decline.
Check the training camp roster. Nine or 10 guys total including the 4 roster locks.
Hahaha! If Brink is not here at all, he can’t take up a roster spot . . . or can he? Trade now! His value is the highest it will ever be.
Jett’s played one PS game so far. He created some chances, his speed is noticeable and he’s not small. The situation in Guelph is a complicating factor. The team is apparently a catastrophe on-ice and off. The Flyers would be sending him back to that, not some idyllic haven for hockey development. He’s still getting the 8 game look.
September 24, 2025 at 3:53 pm #37544yes its me 2050
Participant– Who are the lots of guys they need to look at for this season as a 4th line center
– Doesn’t matter how long he will be around. Has nothing to do with you saying he isn’t a lock to be in the top 12 this season; of which he is 100%. His production will dictate his future.
– No jett hate at all. He is a center not a winger. Don’t think he should be in the nhl at this time. His lack of offense is worrisome. Hasn’t shown anything offensively that he belongs. Didn’t dominate juniors either.
– Canes > flyers. Have been for over how many years now. Not gonna change anytime soon. Those small speedy wingers are why they cant get over the hump. They need to follow the flyers blueprint. I bet if they offered a 1st for GH flyers would decline.
Check the training camp roster. Nine or 10 guys total including the 4 roster locks.
Hahaha! If Brink is not here at all, he can’t take up a roster spot . . . or can he? Trade now! His value is the highest it will ever be.
Jett’s played one PS game so far. He created some chances, his speed is noticeable and he’s not small. The situation in Guelph is a complicating factor. The team is apparently a catastrophe on-ice and off. The Flyers would be sending him back to that, not some idyllic haven for hockey development. He’s still getting the 8 game look.
– I will ask you again who the lots of players are they are looking at for the 4th line center spot.
– The GM doesn’t understand the concept of selling high. he missed that lesson at his wharton online tutorial.
– Is the jett a center or winger? Where are the flyers grooming him to play
September 24, 2025 at 4:09 pm #37550FlyerFrank
Participant– I will ask you again who the lots of players are they are looking at for the 4th line center spot.
– The GM doesn’t understand the concept of selling high. he missed that lesson at his wharton online tutorial.
– Is the jett a center or winger? Where are the flyers grooming him to play
Never said 4C, per se. They’re guys getting the shifts at center. Couturier, Zegras, Dvorak, Cates, Nesbitt, Luchanko, Gard, Gaucher, Richard, Barkey are listed as centers plus Abols. Half of these guys aren’t in the mix for a roster spot. Jett was getting his shifts at center last night.
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