Game 7 – Will these Leafs be heros or zeros?

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  • #9022
    dmnted
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    I think the Leafs can’t win a Cup with a player that bad defensively, that old at that price. He was useless in 6 out of 7 games against Florida.

    So were the other star players.

    #8995
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Marner 13.16m not happening
    R Smith is washed
    JT still a PPG player – discount ????
    CBJ not trading Jenner (I wish)
    Overpayment for McBain
    Underpayment for Tanev
    Blueger is fine
    Comtois no for political reasons
    Patches is a better option
    Burns is older than Monty
    T Myers ????

    Marner could still sign, it’s not a guarantee one way or the other that he won’t.

    If Smith is washed, Tavares is washed. Point per game against Florida? Oh right, disappeared in 6 out of 7 games. He’s useless defensively too. At least Smith can play two-way hockey and isn’t a liability. Has a ring too.

    Jenner has been on the trade block for years. They have enough young guys that can replace him. He’s a pending UFA anyway so CBJ would move him if the Leafs tried hard enough. Jarnkrok or Kampf + McMann or Robertson.

    McBain is worth every penny. 200-300 hits, big body, can win FOs and depth scoring. Young, home town guy. 10 times better than wasting that money on Tavares.

    Tanev either wants to play for a home town discount or he can go take a hike. He’s not that good. He’s only worth it if he’s cheap. I’d take Perry over him for the same money every day of the week.

    Nothing wrong with Comtois. Perfectly good depth player.

    Pacioretty is always injured. Definitely need him to have a platoon buddy.

    Burns is huge, can play RD or RW. Only a 1 year deal so it doesn’t matter if he’s old. Just matters if he can hammer pucks on net from the point and be steady.

    Tyler Myers and Blueger for Rielly. Another big body on the blueline who can shoot pucks in hard and low.

    #8990
    Mr. Sir
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    For UG lineup proposal:

    Marner 13.16m not happening
    R Smith is washed
    JT still a PPG player – discount ????
    CBJ not trading Jenner (I wish)
    Overpayment for McBain
    Underpayment for Tanev
    Blueger is fine
    Comtois no for political reasons
    Patches is a better option
    Burns is older than Monty
    T Myers ????

    Am I doing this right? ????

    #8982
    Unholy_Goalie
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    R.Smith is to old. 34 and he cannot stay healthy. PERIOD!
    and has hands of stone. He got what 11 points last year.
    I’d rather keep Lorentz who will be cheaper and better IMO

    And how old is Tavares? Right…34.

    He scored 40 points and played 79 games last year. What fucking stats are you looking at?

    The difference is that Smith is a two-way winger who brings plenty of playoff experience. And most importantly, he’s an actual winner. Cheaper than Tavares too, on a shorter deal. Still a hometown guy too.

    On no planet or universe is Lorentz better than Smith. Just because a player is cheaper doesn’t mean you’re going to win a Cup. Otherwise, the Columbus Blue Jackets would be Cup champs by now.

    #8981
    Unholy_Goalie
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    I think JT will get a 4 or 5 year extension @ 5 or 5.5M cap hit
    I agree with Knies.

    I think the Leafs can’t win a Cup with a player that bad defensively, that old at that price. He was useless in 6 out of 7 games against Florida. Why does anybody think that just because he’ll make 50% less money that he’ll some how become 50% more effective. He wasn’t even scoring on the PP, the one area of his game that should still be sharp as a tack. Looks like people are lying about him being as sharp as a tack. Sounds familiar.

    Knies should be on the lowest possible cap hit over 3 years. The longer the deal, the higher the cap hit because the Leafs would be buying UFA years. The Leafs are better off avoiding the same mistake they made with previous players and keeping his deal to 3 years. When Domi’s contract expires, you give Knies that extra cap space and make him the 10-11 million AAV player when he’s earned it. By then, Matthews will be gone too anyways.

    #8979
    dmnted
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    R.Smith is to old. 34 and he cannot stay healthy. PERIOD!
    and has hands of stone. He got what 11 points last year.
    I’d rather keep Lorentz who will be cheaper and better IMO

    #8978
    dmnted
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    Better to try to trade Marner’s rights, or let him walk. Add two players to the top 6 with that money. Make sure to get Knies signed and let Tavares walk, if he wants more than $5M on a one year deal.

    I think JT will get a 4 or 5 year extension @ 5 or 5.5M cap hit
    I agree with Knies.

    #8977
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Assuming we resign all 3 RFA FW
    Current roster

    Knies Matthews Nylander
    McMann Tavares Robertson
    Domi Laughton Jarnkrok
    Holmberg Kampf Cowan/Reaves

    We need more toughness in bottom 6

    Lorentz is meh
    Kant must go!
    Holmberg/Robertson/Jarnkrok trade bait

    Options: Tanev, Jeannot, Kuraly, Frederic, Armia, Bjugstad, Cousins ?

    Knies @ 7×3 | Matthews | Marner @ 13.16×8
    R. Smith @ 4×3 | Jenner @ 3.75×1 | Nylander
    Domi | McBain @ 3.5×3 | B. Tanev @ 1.75×2 (or Corey Perry)
    Laughton | Blueger @ 1.8×1 | Lorentz @ 1×1
    Comtois @ 850 (or Pacioretty @ 1 if he doesn’t retire)

    OEL | Tanev
    McCabe | T. Myers
    Burns @ 2×1* | Carlo
    Benoit

    Woll | Stolarz

    #8972
    Unholy_Goalie
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    On the Oilers, if I’m the Leafs, I send out feelers to them regarding acquiring one of our goaltenders. Make it a steep price, like Bouchard

    Yes, then sign Bouchard to 900K, 8 year deal.

    Then throw in McDavid for Reaves’ game worn mitts.

    #8971
    PrinceLH
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    Better to try to trade Marner’s rights, or let him walk. Add two players to the top 6 with that money. Make sure to get Knies signed and let Tavares walk, if he wants more than $5M on a one year deal.

    On the Oilers, if I’m the Leafs, I send out feelers to them regarding acquiring one of our goaltenders. Make it a steep price, like Bouchard, or a 1st and a prospect. Leafs seem to have a lot of goaltenders, moving through their system right now. Giving up Stolarz or Woll could net a top flight player. Edmonton is desperate right now to find a decent goaltender that isn’t going to cost them $5M per season.

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