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If Marner truly wanted to stay, why wouldn’t they already have worked out an extension? It’s six weeks till he’s a UFA, I think he tests the market.
Because I believe he wants the team to get rid of the passengers. He also doesn’t want to get ripped off by taking some kind of discount only to get stuck with the same pylons.
Also, playing in Toronto means if he gets 13 million per year, he’s actually taking home 6.158 million. If he had gone to Carolina, he’d make 7.7 million. Over 8 years, that’s a 12.4 million dollar difference. That’s not pocket change. He doesn’t have the benefit of Matthews who collects 90% of his money in Arizona.
If he stays, how long do we keep running back the same team before we realize it’s fucking insanity?
Getting rid of the entire bottom-six, Tavares and Rielly is not “running it back”. You keep your best players, you change the rest. The D (minus Rielly), the goaltending and the top line, works. The rest, must change.
And what would you do to get this team to the next level?
You keep your best players and you add what you can. Eventually, Florida will cap itself out and Bob will get old. Just like Boston did. Tampa Bay is already on the way down. The rest of the division is either too weak or too young to threaten us just like this team was when they first tried to beat Washington and Boston.
My initial idea is this…
Morgan Rielly $7.5 M
to VAN for Teddy Blueger $1.8 M + Tyler Myers $3.0 M + sign Brian Dumoulin $2 M
OR ALTERNATIVELY
to SEA for Jamie Oleksiak $4.6 + sign Sean Kuraly $1.5 M + sign Brent Burns $2 M
Calle Jarnkrok $2.1 M + David Kampf $2.4 M to CBJ for Boone Jenner $3.8 M
McMann $1.4M for Pospisil $1 M
Mitchell Marner
$13,160,000 × 8 yearsMatthew Knies
$6,500,000 × 3 yearsReilly Smith
$5,000,000 × 3 yearsBrian Dumoulin OR Brent Burns
$2,000,000 × 2 yearsSean Kuraly OR Blueger @ $1,800,000 in the Rielly trade.
$1,500,000 x 2 yearsBrandon Tanev
$900,000 × 2 yearsSteven Lorentz
$900,000 × 2 yearsMax Pacioretty
$900,000 × 1 yearsKnies | Matthews | Marner
Smith | Jenner | Nylander
Domi | Laughton | Tanev
Pacioretty | Blueger OR Kuraly | Pospisil
LorentzOEL | Tanev
McCabe | Carlo
Dumoulin | Myers OR Oleksiak | BurnsWoll | Stolarz
That is my first glance at the UFA / trade possibilities.
This team is larger, tougher, meaner in the bottom-six and on the blueline. Adding some motivated veterans. Some, with Cup experience, others, with hunger for a last chance.
If Marner truly wanted to stay, why wouldn’t they already have worked out an extension? It’s six weeks till he’s a UFA, I think he tests the market.
If he stays, how long do we keep running back the same team before we realize it’s fucking insanity?
And what would you do to get this team to the next level?
I have no clue who is going to come in and why they would want to, that’s Tre’s job. You’re probably not going to replace Marner’s 100 points, even if you replace him with two guys, but that doesn’t necessarily make this team worse.
Well let me give you an insight into Tre’s job; there’s nobody out there. The guys you want won’t sign here, they will stay with Florida. The guys you can convince to come here will be paying more taxes, dealing with more pressure and you have to overpay to come here like they did with Tavares who “took a discount” and still ended up being the 2nd highest paid player in the league.
Regarding JT vs Marner and disappearing acts, yes, I would much rather be paying JT $5M to disappear vs Marner at $14M to disappear.
Marner helped win 2 games against Florida. Tavares won 0. Probably lost them at least one with his defensive ineptitude. Sorry, I’m paying the player in his prime who is showing he makes YOUR BEST SCORER BETTER and NOT the guy on the WRONG SIDE of 35 just because he wears Leafs jammies and comes at a “discount”.
As I showed in the other thread, the Leafs top line went tit for tat with Florida’s top line. It was Tavares’ line that got caved in more often than not. So, if your goal is to beat Florida, you keep that 1st line the way it is and change everything else. That’s what a logical person would do.
Fuck. Tavares.
The main point I was trying to make was that Marner is going to choose to leave no matter what the Leafs do, so they have to pivot.
Marner is not going to leave unless they push him out the door. Matthews doesn’t want him gone. Berube doesn’t want him gone. Marner doesn’t want to leave. If he did, he would have accepted the trade to Carolina, taken the contract, had less idiot fans screaming at him for things that aren’t his fault and still be in the playoffs right now. Clearly, he does not want to choose to leave unless forced to do so.
Re: UG
I have no clue who is going to come in and why they would want to, that’s Tre’s job. You’re probably not going to replace Marner’s 100 points, even if you replace him with two guys, but that doesn’t necessarily make this team worse.
Regarding JT vs Marner and disappearing acts, yes, I would much rather be paying JT $5M to disappear vs Marner at $14M to disappear.
The main point I was trying to make was that Marner is going to choose to leave no matter what the Leafs do, so they have to pivot.
Exactly 6 weeks till July 1st, then a lot of our questions will be answered. Personally, I think Marner walks and JT signs a really team-friendy deal. Tre brings in one forward that has that dog in him to hopefully light a fire under these soft-ass bitches.
Oh, and Carolina is finding out that there are levels to this. I’d be surprised if they got it to game 6.
People, in general, keep saying Marner is going to walk and new guys will be coming in. But nobody ever mentions what new guys will be coming in or why they will want to come in or at what price they will come in at. Please, somebody, anybody, answer these questions. Who do the Leafs sign that actually wants to play in Toronto for 13 million and will give us more than what we already have with Marner? Name them. Price them. Explain why they would even dream of playing here.
Also, the logic that Tavares, should return, at a reduced price, makes no sense. If Marner is deemed so bad in Game 5, 6 (even though he helped win it) and 7 that he should be let go for nothing how is Tavares perfectly fine to stay as long as he comes at half the price? Sorry guys but he could play for 5 million, if he disappears, he’s useless. Additionally, if he’s paid and plays in the top-six but is constantly on the ice for goals against, stuck in his own zone more than half the time, why do we want him to return? To get older? To get slower? To be even worse?
Carolina could get swept. Then people might realize how good Florida really is and how close the Leafs actually were to the 3rd round and perhaps beyond.
Exactly 6 weeks till July 1st, then a lot of our questions will be answered. Personally, I think Marner walks and JT signs a really team-friendy deal. Tre brings in one forward that has that dog in him to hopefully light a fire under these soft-ass bitches.
Oh, and Carolina is finding out that there are levels to this. I’d be surprised if they got it to game 6.
Welcome to your new home. The key is under the Mitch Marner doormat, whenever you want to come in.
fuck greedy pencil neck bitch, his big hat and the horse he rode in on ????♂️
what a fucking joke ????????♂️
edit: nice alliteration ????
I think Tavares is gonna sign for a low number.
Tavares fucking sucks.
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