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June 4, 2025 at 1:37 pm #7863
Mr. Sir
ParticipantThe 2026 UFA crop is much bigger than 97
Makar
Eichel
Kaprizov
Connor
Bobrovsky
Panarin
Jenner
Lowry
OV
Trouba
Carlson
Laine
Kopitar
Kempe
Demko
Stolarz
Tuch
Oleksiak
Rasmoose
Marchment
Ferraro
Mikkola
SissonsAny many more……
June 4, 2025 at 1:35 pm #7862Cush29
ParticipantBuy-out for Morgan Rielly isn’t all that bad.
I guess some may say it’s “not bad” for year one at 1.6M (but to me, consdering how tight the Leafs are to the cap, it’s bad).
Not sure how 3.6 per against the cap for 4 years and then 2.13M per year for another 6 years can’t be described as anything other than bad, especially when you consider how tight to the cap the Leafs have been and probably always will be.
To me a Rielly buy out is an option that should even be considered.
June 4, 2025 at 1:29 pm #7861Cush29
ParticipantIs JT a “Craig Berube” type of player?
I mean you keep saying JT is horrific defensively and dog shit but lone behold guess what the coach said about re-signing JT……
No, he isn’t. And the difference is the stats prove that Tavares is horrible defensively whereas the stats prove Marner is not.
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then this just proves my point that what Berube is saying in the media has to be taken with a grain of salt – he’s doing his job and following marching orders when he makes statements about UFA’s. And again he also said 100% he wanted to re-sign both Marner and JT.
June 4, 2025 at 1:27 pm #7860Unholy_Goalie
Participanthttps://puckpedia.com/player/morgan-rielly/buyout?s=2025-2026
Buy-out for Morgan Rielly isn’t all that bad.
Leafs save 5.8 AAV this year and roughly 3.8 AAV for the rest of his contract. They won’t be taking a big “penalty” until 2030-2035 of 2.1 AAV per year.
Still better off trying to trade him to Vancouver or Seattle. But a buy-out is possible too as a plan B.
June 4, 2025 at 1:16 pm #7857Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI think as long as we come out with a balanced top 9, even if the top line takes a step back, we’ll be in better shape, and the only way to do that is to add this off-season and let Marner walk.
I’m sure Matthews is going to absolutely love trying to score in the playoffs with even less help.
June 4, 2025 at 1:12 pm #7856gravyface
ParticipantSo maybe this year isnt the off season the leafs sign long term deals….sign short term/1 year deals if possible, with talented enough players to get you into the playoffs. Then put more money into next years off season. Better players it seems.
But Im not sure Marchand will be as affective here as he is in Florida. In florida hes on the 3rd line….here, he will mostly like be used on 2nd.
If bennett would sign for $8m per….sure….but I think for Toronto its closer to $10 per…..not interested in thatI’ve been hearing that for years, “next year’s UFA crop is going to be amazing” and most of the time, those players end up signing long-term deals.
Do you take a step back next year so you can take a swing at McDavid? That’s a big risk.
I think as long as we come out with a balanced top 9, even if the top line takes a step back, we’ll be in better shape, and the only way to do that is to add this off-season and let Marner walk.
June 4, 2025 at 1:08 pm #7854Cush29
Participantits so hard to post here with the douchy know it all replies spamming the threads. every reply is just dripping with complete asshole vibes
thats all senstrolltwo
Full admission that I know I’m guilty of this sometimes but I like to think/hope I only do this when I’m replying to a comment or replies that have been posted in the nature that you are talking about. The last reply I posted I had typed out and edited 3 times to try and avoid dragging the thread into a silly argument and more a discussion but I’m not sure if I’ll have success on that front or not.
So in short – sorry if it was me who has made you feel that way, the last thing I think the vast majority of the folks here want is to see this place take on what so many hate about that other place.
June 4, 2025 at 1:05 pm #7853Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI also see people saying that they shouldn’t spend so they can be there if McDavid is available. To me that’s a pipe dream and it’s not one you sacrifice a hockey season to entertain. They either believe in the approach they are taking with the people they have (or acquire) or they need to make more changes because the Leafs aren’t in a rebuild or retool phase. If anything they’re changing tack and hopefully finding the personally who can direct the ship that way properly.
The odds of signing McDavid are about the same as signing Bennett and Marchand.
Is JT a “Craig Berube” type of player?
I mean you keep saying JT is horrific defensively and dog shit but lone behold guess what the coach said about re-signing JT……
No, he isn’t. And the difference is the stats prove that Tavares is horrible defensively whereas the stats prove Marner is not.
June 4, 2025 at 1:00 pm #7852senstrolltwo
Participantits so hard to post here with the douchy know it all replies spamming the threads. every reply is just dripping with complete asshole vibes
thats all
June 4, 2025 at 12:52 pm #7850Cush29
ParticipantAlso, Marner fits perfectly into Berube’s system as Berube has already said he wants Marner back 100%. So this false narrative that Marner doesn’t fit under Berube is a pile of horseshit.
Just because Berube said 100% he wants Marner back doesn’t means Marner somehow fits Berube’s style all of a sudden.
Marner is a highly gifted and skilled, but super soft player who doesn’t forecheck to save his life & racks up the regular season points playing with a guy who scored 69 fucking goals one year. Oh and racks up points in playoff series games 1-4 or non-elimination games and don’t give me the bullshit about him with the ‘primairy assist on the GWG Matthews scored” that was a 2 foot shovel pass. The book around the league on Marner is to put quick and tough pressure on him (aka bully and intimidate him) and he will cough up the puck – and it’s true and we have all seen it year over year when the playoff come.
That is the furthest thing from a “Craig Berube” type of player – ever.
Berube is the coach of the team that has 2 UFA’s who they are presumably negotiating with so it’s his job to say nothing but positive things about those players and anyone who can’t understand that is just fooling themselves.
Is JT a “Craig Berube” type of player?
I mean you keep saying JT is horrific defensively and dog shit but lone behold guess what the coach said about re-signing JT……
Berube ‘100%’ wants Leafs to re-sign Marner, Tavares
Maple Leafs head coach Craig Berube made it clear that he hopes the team finds a way to bring back Mitch Marner and John Tavares with both players heading into free agency. Berube expressed his love for Marner and how he enjoyed coaching him throughout the season.https://www.tsn.ca/video/berube-100-wants-leafs-to-re-sign-marner-tavares~3137031
Berube’s comments and sound bites need to be taken with context in mind, a grain of salt and through the lens of the fact he is the coach and is doing (and saying) what the GM / Team is asking or telling him to say.
He’s been around long enough I’m sure Tre doesn’t need to tell him not to say Marner is soft or JT is too slow or whatever negatives he sees in either player so he doesn’t have a negative impact on Tre doing his work to re-sign these guys, maximize whatever they can get for negotiating rights to either or make other players think Toronto will drag them through the mud as a UFA.
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