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May 21, 2025 at 12:24 pm #6054
Aaron
ParticipantI think it’s a big factor that Matthews was battling injury all year, literally from training camp. It sometimes takes years for players to learn how to win. Sid didn’t win shit until he did. Ovi didn’t win shit until he did. MacKinnon didn’t win shit until he did. It’s a shame that Matthews was nowhere near 100%, because this really could have been the year that things finally clicked.- Whipper
I agree. It sucks he was injured how long he was injured for. I wish he sat for longer if need be. They didn’t NEED to win the division if it cost them a healthy Matthews.
May 21, 2025 at 12:22 pm #6053Fakepartofme
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Fake – I think the problem (or the why to what you find funny) is these 2 guys just default to Marner to set up Matthews when they play together for the most part, if they were more of a 2 headed threat to score then teams would have a much harder time to defend them but they simply aren’t and IMO never will be.Teams play Marner to pass to Matthews and Matthews to shoot when fed by Marner but when you separate them both appear more willing or able to do what they don’t do often enough when they play together (Matthews set up someone else / Marner to finish). This is one of the reasons why I have always preferred them on separate lines.
As far as me being too one sided towards one guy over the other ok fair but I’ll always be one sided towards a 2 way #1 centre who can score 50 + goals almost every year in his prime when healthy over a talented winger – most people would regardless of the names on the jerseys no?
I think you pointed something that is very true, AM and MM seem to default to eachother. MArner needs to shoot more and matthews could pass more.
One that was pointed out in the article was that the powerplay seems to be better when one of Marner or Matthews is missing.
Oh Im all for keeping a scoring center over a winger…for sure. Im just not sure Matthews is as much as a stud without marner long term.
Im really hoping Im wrong, cause we’re about to find out what life is like without marner.
I like all 3 core players (WN, AM, MM) and I would like to keep all of them….I just dont think its wise as it pertains to cap allocation as they simply cant get their shit together when it counts.May 21, 2025 at 12:16 pm #6050WHIPPER
ParticipantOh, shit, the Severn River is incredible. My Uncle had a cottage near the Big Chute, I absolutely LOVED spending time up there!
May 21, 2025 at 12:15 pm #6047Fakepartofme
ParticipantAaron
ParticipantThe talking heads and pundits who talk about them at all, cause let’s face it it’s Carolina and nobody gives a fuck, talk about how they run 4 lines, they are all hard working, north/south guys and they play an “even better” team defense than Florida does. On paper they should be a better shut down team than Florida.
Ah ok, I see what you’re saying. Honestly, I havent seen any of the canes games and no idea how their play is structured and I havent heard too many peeps talk about them. However, I dont listen to a lot of talking heads outside of kyper and bourne and the Overdrive guys and anytime they discuss a non canadian team…I kinda just switch the channel. LOL
All I know, is the canes are rocking without Rant but they have Freddy in net…so at anytime….they could implode
May 21, 2025 at 12:15 pm #6046WHIPPER
ParticipantCush, I was partial to the Colton Orr one, lol.
May 21, 2025 at 12:14 pm #6045WHIPPER
ParticipantAs far as me being too one sided towards one guy over the other ok fair but I’ll always be one sided towards a 2 way #1 centre who can score 50 + goals almost every year in his prime when healthy over a talented winger – most people would regardless of the names on the jerseys no?
~Cush29I think it’s a big factor that Matthews was battling injury all year, literally from training camp. It sometimes takes years for players to learn how to win. Sid didn’t win shit until he did. Ovi didn’t win shit until he did. MacKinnon didn’t win shit until he did. It’s a shame that Matthews was nowhere near 100%, because this really could have been the year that things finally clicked.
May 21, 2025 at 12:10 pm #6044Cush29
ParticipantWhipper – re: avatar.
Thanks – assuming you mean the current one vs the Colton Orr after just KO’ing Paros I had up for a hot minute it’s from an ODR on the Severn River. Little slice of winter heaven.
Here are a couple more pics.
May 21, 2025 at 12:08 pm #6043Cush29
ParticipantWhipper Snapper – Agreed seperating 34 and 16 should have been explored more by Berube.
May 21, 2025 at 12:07 pm #6042WHIPPER
ParticipantThe talking heads and pundits who talk about them at all, cause let’s face it it’s Carolina and nobody gives a fuck, talk about how they run 4 lines, they are all hard working, north/south guys and they play an “even better” team defense than Florida does. On paper they should be a better shut down team than Florida.
~AaronCarolina is going to get steamrolled worse than the Leafs did. Florida is simply on another level above every team in the league. Back-to-back Champs, book it.
May 21, 2025 at 12:07 pm #6041Cush29
ParticipantFake – I think the problem (or the why to what you find funny) is these 2 guys just default to Marner to set up Matthews when they play together for the most part, if they were more of a 2 headed threat to score then teams would have a much harder time to defend them but they simply aren’t and IMO never will be.
Teams play Marner to pass to Matthews and Matthews to shoot when fed by Marner but when you separate them both appear more willing or able to do what they don’t do often enough when they play together (Matthews set up someone else / Marner to finish). This is one of the reasons why I have always preferred them on separate lines.
As far as me being too one sided towards one guy over the other ok fair but I’ll always be one sided towards a 2 way #1 centre who can score 50 + goals almost every year in his prime when healthy over a talented winger – most people would regardless of the names on the jerseys no?
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