Game 7 – Will these Leafs be heros or zeros?

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  • #5964
    skalapy
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    welcome to the Banned Crue Skalapy.
    got my self 90 days in the hole

    SHOUT OUT to that man mountain of neck meat that showed up – SKALAPY!

    ????
    Cush n dozzer would never ban me for my timeless hb idiom????????‍♂️????

    #5963
    PrinceLH
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    The band is almost back together. HHS Gain is HB’s loss. It’s like watching a suicide in real time happening over there. The discussions in here are a breath of fresh air, without the nonsense and harping going on. It’s actually fun again. Slowly, but surely, all of the best Bloggers from over there are now coming here. A few more tweaks, and this site will be ready to soar. Just have to get some of the smaller market threads to come over. Hablanders haven’t migrated as fast as I’d like to have seen quite yet. It’s only month 1 and all seems grand.

    #5962
    Azure
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    I think Tavares is gonna sign for a low number.

    Also how do you quote here?

    #5961
    PDO Speedwagon
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    Stamkos is a good comparable for Tavares. Both had solid productive seasons in their contract years. Briesbois lowballed Stamkos because he knew Stamkos was in decline. Stamkos left to chase money and ended up in Nashville without Kucherov to feed him delicious Royal Road passes on the power play. Look at what happened. His production plummeted. He went on a brief heater towards the end of the season that made his numbers look slightly less terrible, but for most of the year he was caved in and provided almost nothing.

    Tavares is in a similar spot. He no longer drives play and needs elite linemates to prop him up. He’s pretty much a 2W or 3W at this point in his career. If Tavares will stay for $3-5m on term less than 3 years, then keep him. Put him on the wing and use him on special teams.

    Marner is a fucking gone pecan. May as well start dream-spending that cap space now because he’s on the first plane out of Toronto. Leafs aint getting back squat either – just to add insult to injury. No sign and trade. I hope I’m wrong.

    Everyone stop with talk about Reilly and Benn – those guys are also on the wrong side of the aging curve. Reilly and Benn of 5-10 years ago, hell yeah. Now, not so much. Maybe grab Poon Jenner cheap to fill the dinosaur sandpaper grit snot role.

    SHOUT OUT to that man mountain of neck meat that showed up – SKALAPY!

    #5956
    dmnted
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    welcome to the Banned Crue Skalapy.
    got my self 90 days in the hole

    #5950
    Unholy_Goalie
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    It’d be nice to keep both 88 and 16 but the math ain’t mathing in their favour. IF they give Knies and Marner their raises they’d only have about $8M to sign a pair of second liners to play with 88 ….and that’s after cutting Reaves, Kampf and Jarnkrok’s $$ (fingers crossed) ….and that assumes they spend no money on the bottom 6.

    They need a couple of Alpha’s in the mix to help all these elites get over the hump.

    The math works perfectly fine if they make the correct moves.

    Knies needs to take a bridge contract. He’s been good but hasn’t proven anything to warrant buying his UFA years at a premium price. Keeping his deal to 3-4 years keeps his cap hit low enough and allows him to hit UFA status faster. We can deal with his next contract when the cap is even higher.

    These stories that Marner turned down 13-14 AAV are bullshit. He would take 12-13 AAV. Everybody assumes he is being greedy and wants maximum money. Nobody is considering that maybe there are some rotten apples on this team. The “passengers” that Matthews spoke of is who Marner doesn’t want to play with anymore. That could include all the names we expect like Jarnkrok, Kampf, Reaves, Holmberg etc. These are the guys scoring ZERO goals in the bottom-six but taking up cap space and providing nothing in playoff value.

    Next to go, Rielly. Vancouver or Seattle could be a landing spot for him and his NMC. The “core” includes the longest serving player. It sucks trying to move a guy at his lowest value but if they can clear his salary and bring back even just a secondary player or depth D, they’d be coming out ahead. They can replace him with a UFA easily.

    Next, Tavares has to go. Even at 5 AAV, he’s not worth it anymore. At his age, he’s slow and defensively a net negative. I’d take him at a ridiculous price like less than 5 AAV but he can’t be the 2nd line center anymore. He simply can’t be trusted to play top-six minutes without being caved in defensively. Maybe he could be considered a 2LW if he has a really good two-way center. But his best days are behind him for what we need him to do in the playoffs.

    This team doesn’t get better by losing it’s #1 point producer for nothing. Nobody can name the players that want to come to Toronto, on a discount, to provide a bigger impact.

    #5944
    Lawsie
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    @Uggie ….it’d be nice to keep both 88 and 16 but the math ain’t mathing in their favour. IF they give Knies and Marner their raises they’d only have about $8M to sign a pair of second liners to play with 88 ….and that’s after cutting Reaves, Kampf and Jarnkrok’s $$ (fingers crossed) ….and that assumes they spend no money on the bottom 6.

    They need a couple of Alpha’s in the mix to help all these elites get over the hump.

    #5939
    skalapy
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    i wouldn’t hold my breath for aa????

    he’s hb for life and he still has a few alts left????????‍♂️

    lmfaooooooooo ????

    #5938
    Unholy_Goalie
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    where’s the like button?????

    can we say fuck?????????

    Abso-fucking-lutely

    #5936
    Unholy_Goalie
    Participant

    It’s probably career suicide but if I was Marner I would take a 1 year deal with the leafs for the same money. Show the leaf fans you can play ball and not demand the most money. It will probably help his mental struggles as well.

    Then next year be better in the playoffs and take your big contract. It might help the future ticket if he can perform well. -bryant

    He already did that this year. He led the team in scoring despite Matthews A) missing games B) being injured and C) playing like shit.

    He scored 100 points. He killed penalties. He was 2nd in Leafs playoff scoring, scored a GWG and assisted the GWG (so two GAME WINNING EVENTS) against the Panthers.

    He is 2nd all-time in Leafs playoff assists.

    They only thing he did not do this year was beat the Panthers and go on to win the Cup. But that’s something that NOBODY on this team did either.

    And that’s not Marner’s fault. The bottom-six sucked. Why? Because the Leafs love wasting time, money and picks on pylons like Holmberg, Jarnkrok, Kampf, Reaves, Robertson, Laughton etc.

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