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  • #8410
    MJL66
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    I’m not looking to move the needle, I’m looking to move Drysdale, Zamula and Andrae down the depth chart and eventually out of Philly. They are not top 4 players who will be here if the flyers ever become contenders.

    Andrae should’ve already been in their top 4. He has promise and should be getting plenty of ice time

    #8412
    FlyerFrank
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    Andrae should’ve already been in their top 4. He has promise and should be getting plenty of ice time

    I like Andrae better than Zamula or Drysdale. Only Drysdale is a difference maker but his difference making is in the negative direction.

    #8415
    furio16
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    Andrae should’ve already been in their top 4. He has promise and should be getting plenty of ice time

    No he shouldn’t. He should be on the 3rd pair where he belongs to see if he has an NHL future. Andrae didn’t show much after a solid 10 games or so.

    #8417
    MJL66
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    They’re all top 4 guys here and you don’t have to give up assets to get them. So whether it’s one year or two or five, you can make that move July 1. I like Faulk just fine but the Blues won’t give him away. I’ve seen it happen plenty of times: A team adds one right guy to the mix and it literally changes the entire team for the better.

    Briere came in spring of 23. He inherited a mess. I have high expectations for this off season. They aren’t sitting on what they’ve got now . . . at least I hope not. I think they have two must make moves this off season. Which UFA center do you think they should sign?

    You’ve fallen into the same traps as all the other authentic Flyer fans. Thinking they’re one right guy away or should be hitting the UFA market. That’s the same failed strategies that has the Flyers as one of the worst run teams in all of pro sports and they haven’t been relevant for the last 15 years. By all means, keep doing the same thing. It’s bound to work this time.

    #8420
    FlyerFrank
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    No he shouldn’t. He should be on the 3rd pair where he belongs to see if he has an NHL future. Andrae didn’t show much after a solid 10 games or so.

    The sad truth is Andrae is a Top 4 guy here on opening night if the Flyers don’t add on the blue line. Ristolainen will still be out a while.

    Like it or not, this is going to be the Flyers Top 6 if they do nothing:

    Sanheim-York
    Drysdale-Andrae
    Zamula-Seeler

    That’s why they have to do something.

    #8422
    MJL66
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    The sad truth is Andrae is a Top 4 guy here on opening night if the Flyers don’t add on the blue line. Ristolainen will still be out a while.

    Andrae has legitimate top 4 potential while Hague does not. The issue with the Flyers is the mix of players. Ristolainen is a mediocre 3rd pair defenseman. It’s not a loss. They don’t have to do anything. They should be tanking for draft capital.

    • This reply was modified 1 week ago by MJL66.
    #8423
    FlyerFrank
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    You’ve fallen into the same traps as all the other authentic Flyer fans. Thinking they’re one right guy away or should be hitting the UFA market. That’s the same failed strategies that has the Flyers as one of the worst run teams in all of pro sports and they haven’t been relevant for the last 15 years. By all means, keep doing the same thing. It’s bound to work this time.

    Yes, the Flyers should break with the past and find a new way to bring in talent besides the draft, trades and free agent signings. They are old, failed strategies.

    Andrae has legitimate top 4 potential while Hague does not.

    Andrae doesn’t crack the Top 6 on the top teams in the league. You really think he’d play ahead of Hague in Vegas? Hahahaha! He will get games this year. So will Zamula and Drysdale. Hopefully, at least one surprises. The Flyers need that too . . . along with a proven Top 4 Dman.

    • This reply was modified 1 week ago by FlyerFrank.
    #8426
    yes its me 2050
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    You’ve fallen into the same traps as all the other authentic Flyer fans

    Look at you using the HF board’s terminology. Love it.

    #8427
    yes its me 2050
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    Andrae has legitimate top 4 potential while Hague does not. The issue with the Flyers is the mix of players. Ristolainen is a mediocre 3rd pair defenseman. It’s not a loss. They don’t have to do anything. They should be tanking for draft capital.

    Please define legit top 4 potential. U have become a HF parrot cliff

    #8429
    MJL66
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    Andrae doesn’t crack the Top 6 on the top teams in the league. You really think he’d play ahead of Hague in Vegas? Hahahaha! He will get games this year. So will Zamula and Drysdale. Hopefully, at least one surprises. The Flyers need that too . . . along with a proven Top 4 Dman.

    You keep posting anecdotes and don’t seem aware of what kind of player Hague actually is. Andrae has a good level of hockey sense and solid puck moving ability as well as being good defensively for a smaller guy. He is a player the Flyers should invest time in developing rather than pursuing mediocre players without much of a future in Hague

    #8430
    FlyerFrank
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    You keep posting anecdotes and don’t seem aware of what kind of player Hague actually is. Andrae has a good level of hockey sense and solid puck moving ability as well as being good defensively for a smaller guy. He is a player the Flyers should invest time in developing rather than pursuing mediocre players without much of a future in Hague

    Your hatred of Hague seems pathological. The Flyers need one Top 4 guy here to upgrade the defense for this season. A few guys could fill the bill, including some guys who are 3rd pairing guys on teams stacked on the blueline. This is simple enough for a relative hockey novice to understand.

    #8431
    furio16
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    Andrae should be in the lineup no doubt in a bottom pair role. He struggled more times than not in his last 25 games after good start. Need to see if he can solve a problem on the cheap.

    Will the Flyers show the patience and allow him to lack if a better word learn on the job? Much like Grans the answer is likely no.

    They didn’t overpay the coach to allow for that type of plan.

    Just think they will have Risto over 5 million. Hague probably over 4. Then Seeler close to 3. Great use of money.

    • This reply was modified 1 week ago by furio16.
    #8440
    FlyerFrank
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    Andrae should be in the lineup no doubt in a bottom pair role. He struggled more times than not in his last 25 games after good start. Need to see if he can solve a problem on the cheap.

    That’s my point! If the Flyers do nothing, Andrae is in the lineup in a Top 4 slot this coming opening night. I’m fine with Andrae filling a 5/6 slot for a low cap hit but he can’t fill two slots. He’s only one player.

    #8443
    MJL66
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    Your hatred of Hague seems pathological. The Flyers need one Top 4 guy here to upgrade the defense for this season. A few guys could fill the bill, including some guys who are 3rd pairing guys on teams stacked on the blueline. This is simple enough for a relative hockey novice to understand.

    You aren’t making any sense. My stance on Hague as a player can be supported with facts and data. Meanwhile, your basis for what you think Hague is as a player, is based on where he sits on his teams depth chart. As if that determines what level a player is at. Rather than his actual level of play. Your comment really isn’t judged by an understanding of the game of hockey but rather just by simple common sense. If we hypothetically put Andrae in the same slot of the depth chart on Vegas that Hague is at, does that automatically make him a top 4 defenseman?

    Now, I will challenge you to provide some facts and data to support your opinion that Hague is a top 4 level defenseman. I’ll then counter with what have to offer to support my opinion and we’ll see who actually understands the game.

    #8444
    furio16
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    That’s my point! If the Flyers do nothing, Andrae is in the lineup in a Top 4 slot this coming opening night. I’m fine with Andrae filling a 5/6 slot for a low cap hit but he can’t fill two slots. He’s only one player.

    York – Sanheim
    Seeler – JD
    Andrae – Zamula

    If nothing is added. Which will 100% not be the case. I wonder if there are any 5/6 defenseman on Vancouver the coach may covet and look to acquire.

    • This reply was modified 1 week ago by furio16.
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