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June 7, 2025 at 3:44 pm #8482
FlyerFrank
ParticipantDallas is a superior team compared to the Flyers that’s how. He would get exposed on a bad Flyers team.
Ceci started the season as a top pairing guy in San Jose. So did Walman who is playing big minutes for EDM. As bad as the Flyers are, the Sharks are worse by a lot. Both Walman and Ceci were so badly exposed in SJ that EDM and DAL both gave up 1st round picks to acquire them.
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June 8, 2025 at 7:09 pm #8592furio16
ParticipantYou are leaving out a key detail on that Ceci trade and why a 1st went to San Jose.
June 8, 2025 at 7:40 pm #8593FlyerFrank
Participant“You are leaving out a key detail on that Ceci trade and why a 1st went to San Jose.”
So what? Yeah, Granlund is a good player too. SJ got a 1st AND a 3rd in the package. The Flyers still need another Top 4 defenseman by opening night. There are a few candidates and, I’m sure, some others I haven’t thought about.
June 9, 2025 at 10:58 am #8646furio16
ParticipantSo what? You presented it like they gave up a 1st for Ceci alone. That is false.
Adding Ceci alone does next to nothing. Probably hurts more than helps as maybe they improve slightly hurting their draft position while no real improvement towards the end goal.
June 9, 2025 at 11:36 am #8655FlyerFrank
ParticipantSo what? You presented it like they gave up a 1st for Ceci alone. That is false.
Adding Ceci alone does next to nothing. Probably hurts more than helps as maybe they improve slightly hurting their draft position while no real improvement towards the end goal.
You’re complaining about a future draft then saying a veteran Top 4 UFA defenseman, who was acquired by a conference finals level team for, in part, a first round pick would actually hurt the Flyers. Any Dman who could play Top 4 here can help the Flyers. Their blueliners are shabby after Sanheim, York and the oft-injured, signed for only one more year Ristolainen . . . who might still get you another pick to continue to draft offensive talent.
June 9, 2025 at 12:52 pm #8673furio16
ParticipantComplaining about future draft picks? Not following you on that.
What does Ceci do to help the Flyers? Go from 4th worse to 5th worse? Unless you’re overhauling the entire D a guy like him makes little sense. He will want a 3/4 year deal from the Flyers for 5 million or not easily. No thanks at this time.
June 9, 2025 at 1:36 pm #8681FlyerFrank
ParticipantComplaining about future draft picks? Not following you on that.
What does Ceci do to help the Flyers? Go from 4th worse to 5th worse? Unless you’re overhauling the entire D a guy like him makes little sense. He will want a 3/4 year deal from the Flyers for 5 million or not easily. No thanks at this time.
So you want the Flyers to become one of the better teams in the league without acquiring an upgrade on defense, which the Flyers desperately need, from one of the better teams in the league. Sounds like a plan.
June 9, 2025 at 1:45 pm #8682furio16
ParticipantHow I want to the Flyers to become one of the better teams they will not do or even attempt to do.
How the Flyers want to become one of the better teams will not work. That much is proven.
Big difference in acquiring an upgrade and acquiring a difference maker. An upgrade is putting lipstick on a pig at this time. Keeps you stuck spinning that wheel; which is what the Flyers seek to thrive on.
June 9, 2025 at 5:04 pm #8704FlyerFrank
ParticipantHow I want to the Flyers to become one of the better teams they will not do or even attempt to do.
How the Flyers want to become one of the better teams will not work. That much is proven.
Big difference in acquiring an upgrade and acquiring a difference maker. An upgrade is putting lipstick on a pig at this time. Keeps you stuck spinning that wheel; which is what the Flyers seek to thrive on.
Attempt to what? Tank for the indefinite future? I’m obviously not sure what the Flyers will do this off season. But I think they need to get better and can if they use the main tools available to them, draft picks and cap space, wisely.
The Flyers need five or more difference makers to compete for the Cup . . . and even then . . .
June 9, 2025 at 5:34 pm #8707VonZipper
ParticipantAttempt to what? Tank for the indefinite future? I’m obviously not sure what the Flyers will do this off season. But I think they need to get better and can if they use the main tools available to them, draft picks and cap space, wisely.
The Flyers need five or more difference makers to compete for the Cup . . . and even then . . . — FlyerFrank
Since the inception of the salary cap, when have the Flyers used it wisely?
Keep in mind, the Flyers have a long history of not learning from their mistakes.
June 9, 2025 at 6:38 pm #8719FlyerFrank
ParticipantSince the inception of the salary cap, when have the Flyers used it wisely?
Keep in mind, the Flyers have a long history of not learning from their mistakes.
I think Holmgren managed the cap well for the most part. At the end, he did screw up with Lacavalier and MacDonald. After that, it was Hextall and Fletcher. That was the really bad stretch although Hextall got canned more for rubbing people the wrong way but he was no ace GM in PGH either.
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June 16, 2025 at 3:16 pm #9682FlyerFrank
ParticipantAccording to reports, the team see Carson Soucy and the final year of his deal with a $3.25 million salary cap hit as one that could and should be moved as GM Chris Drury looks to sure up the back end of this Rangers lineup that has seen major changes in recent times, notably with the trade of Ryan Lindgren.
Hopefully, no more than a 3rd pairing guy here but he’s apparently available. Would add this guy before Zibanejad who is overpaid, has 5 years left on his deal and his scoring numbers are likely sagging.
June 16, 2025 at 5:43 pm #9712furio16
ParticipantLast thing the Flyers need is another 3rd pair defender.
June 16, 2025 at 6:03 pm #9713FlyerFrank
ParticipantLast thing the Flyers need is another 3rd pair defender.
A 3rd pairing Dman isn’t necessarily that here. They should get an in-depth report on him from Tocchet who Soucy played for in VAN. Regardless, I’m throwing every sleeper name I see out there. I’m pretty sure we agree they need an upgrade on the blueline. Ekblad isn’t signing here. The Flyers need to be realistic. One Top 4 guy is essential. Adding two would be better. I don’t like the Flyers D that much after Sanheim and Seeler is good in his role.
June 16, 2025 at 6:09 pm #9715yes its me 2050
ParticipantI hope they do get some combination of Soucy, Ceci, and Hague. Would be par for the course.
10 million for 7 years may get Ekblads attention.
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