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I would not have believed Marner would walk for nothing, until recently. It would surprise no one if he decided he was done with the circus and the failure and wanted a new start.
My uneducated guess is that management asking him to waive his NTC changed everything – the organization has no loyalty to him, so why should he feel any loyalty to MLSE?
He’s gone.
Until I hear otherwise, I strongly believe that Matthews is hurt. -Wedgie
It looks that way. It also looks like Marner has decided to leave at the end of the season.
The problem with those theories is that they don’t explain the same apparent lack of any heart, pushback, desire or pride that we have seen for what, 8? 9? years now.
My uneducated guess is that management asking him to waive his NTC changed everything – the organization has no loyalty to him, so why should he feel any loyalty to MLSE? -Wedgie
He shouldn’t.
I think those days are mostly gone in sports.
The bright side is that tonight’s game is a win/win
If they win, I suppose we can be excited about a game 7 at home.
If they lose, we can all just stop thinking about it and enjoy the rest of the playoffs, or go do something else.The past fews years, Leafs eliminated day has been a huge relief.
Hot take : the hard salary cap is a sack of diseased dicks.
It makes it impossible to build a dynasty. One or two championships tops and then the GM is forced to start shedding critical players solely for financial reasons.
It has also destroyed team-player loyalty because no player is untouchable in the world of balance sheets and pencil pushers.
There is a lot to discuss around the decision to keep a player like Marner who is on an expiring contract. His paycheck breaking the team shouldn’t be a consideration.
Would it be fair to small market teams to abolish the cap? Well, let’s also ask – would those same small market teams exist in a vacuum without being subsidized by the revenue from big market teams who prop up the profitability of the entire league?
Institute a “luxury tax” and abolish the hard cap.
Thank you for attending my TED Talk ™.
I would not have believed Marner would walk for nothing, until recently. It would surprise no one if he decided he was done with the circus and the failure and wanted a new start.
I wouldn’t be disappointed to see them both gone and Rielly. I don’t really care about how good the team is at this point. I am sick of the annual slap in the face to the fans.
~AetherialI think Marner is going to walk too. The universal hate he’s getting has gotta get to a guy. Sure, he loves the idea of playing in Toronto, but this city is done with playoff flops and he is getting the brunt of the hate.
Matthews is 1000% not going anywhere. You don’t extend a guy, give him the C, and then trade him a year later. No doubt, he needs to perform better in the playoffs, but he’ll have many more years to prove himself, (whether deserved or not).
Rielly is untradeable, be prepared to be swearing at the TV for, what, four more years?!?
Atomic Wedgie
ParticipantUntil I hear otherwise, I strongly believe that Matthews is hurt.
Great. Every playoffs he’s injured or sick or some excuse. Im sure he is hurt, but he’s never stepped up in big playoff games.
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There is talk that Marner has already decided to leave and Matthews is injured and that explains their poor play. Who knows whether either is true. The problem with those theories is that they ignore the absymal playoff performance of those two for many years now.I would not have believed Marner would walk for nothing, until recently. It would surprise no one if he decided he was done with the circus and the failure and wanted a new start.
I wouldn’t be disappointed to see them both gone and Rielly. I don’t really care about how good the team is at this point. I am sick of the annual slap in the face to the fans.
I have no doubt Matthews is injured, but he usually his come playoff games, or he’s sick or some other excuse.
The leafs would have to rebuild on the fly, they coudlnt tank for a year cause our garbage gm’s keep “trying to go for it” with the same core and now we dont have any first for the next decade or so lol (until 2028.Atomic Wedgie
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My uneducated guess is that management asking him to waive his NTC changed everything – the organization has no loyalty to him, so why should he feel any loyalty to MLSE?He’s gone.
Meh, its a business, marner could have signed at anytime during the year. He chose not to.
Managements mistake was not waiting until the deal with the Canes was 100% confirmed, they jumped the gun.
Either way, Marner can take his 90+ reg season points and fack off.Unless he shows up and propels the leafs to two more wins in this series.
Either way, I wont be watching tonight.Meh, its a business, marner could have signed at anytime during the year. He chose not to.
Managements mistake was not waiting until the deal with the Canes was 100% confirmed, they jumped the gun.
~FakepartofmeDo you think there was an offer on the table for Marner to sign? If anything, I’d imagine MLSE was waiting to see how the playoffs went before giving him all the money x8 and trade protection.
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ParticipantDo you think there was an offer on the table for Marner to sign? If anything, I’d imagine MLSE was waiting to see how the playoffs went before giving him all the money x8 and trade protection.
Yup, you could be right…maybe MLSE held off. But from what Ive heard on the radio etc, if marner came with a reasonable offer to sign the leafs would have done it. Its just that it seemed they were too far apart initially.
Do you think there was an offer on the table for Marner to sign? If anything, I’d imagine MLSE was waiting to see how the playoffs went before giving him all the money x8 and trade protection.
From what I heard on the radio (so take it with a grain of salt), MLSE wanted to get a deal done before the trade deadline. Marner’s camp said they weren’t talking new contracts until after the season, so MLSE felt they needed to protect themselves by trading him.
Marner’s camp said they weren’t talking new contracts until after the season, so MLSE felt they needed to protect themselves by trading him.
~Atomic WedgieJeez, that might have backfired spectacularly for Marner. First, Rantanen signs at a VERY nice number for Dallas, absolutely tears it up in the playoffs, and then Marner does his typical disappearing act when the games start to mean something. Sure, someone is going to pay him, but I genuinely believe he wanted to spend his whole career in Toronto.
Honestly, I think he winds up in San Jose. He can do his fancy pants shit all day there, not have to worry about the playoffs likely for a few years, make a boat load of money, and have no pressure at all.
From HB
It’s a tough line to be sarcastic enough and not piss off some fans that might think you are serious 😆
– Symba007Wedgie was the Master at that.
A couple times a year he would suck people into believing his schtick about trading away young talent to get some experienced vets on the team for leadership. It got a few people, every time 😆
That Pettersson (sp?) contract looks horrible. -Aetherial
From what I heard on the radio (so take it with a grain of salt), MLSE wanted to get a deal done before the trade deadline. Marner’s camp said they weren’t talking new contracts until after the season, so MLSE felt they needed to protect themselves by trading him. – Wedgie
It’s plausible, but not sure it makes a whole lot of sense.
If the leafs knew this all long, and were concerned, they could have found a trade, even a decent trade, for him. It is not like teams aren’t interested. They were not necessarily up against the deadline.
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