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Your forgot one other very important thing in why Marner is having the success he is now in Vegas (that he didn’t in Toronto):
3. He is now on a team where he is not part of the leadership group, virtually unknown outside of the rink, & is not expected to be one of the core group who will live or die based on the team’s success. He sits behind Mark Stone, Shea Theadore, Jack Eichel, Karlsson, Hanifin in that regard. Let’s call a spade a spade – he was in that position in Toronto and he (and the rest of the core) couldn’t deliver full stop.
And you forgot the most important part; the Leafs can’t build a team. As soon as Marner left, the Leafs fell off a cliff and he went to the Cup Final.
Facts are facts.
Here is the biggest fact you fucking retard.
For the first time in 9 years Marner has contributed and got his team to the 3rd round of the playoffs and it just happened to be on a team where he is about the 6th guy who will be held responsible for team failures, he isn’t even part of the team leadership group and nobody knows who he is outside the rink. What does that tell you idiot?
But sure, Toronto’s failure for nearly a decade had nothing to do with the soft winger who shit his pants when the pressure was cranked up year after year in Toronto and was paid 11 Million dollars per year should shoulder none of the blame. Not 1%.
Like I said this is why your dog shit opinions are laughed at – you are so far removed from reality that you can’t even think rationally.
Shouldn’t expect it from an unhinged low IQ cuckservative retard like yourself I guess.
What was the Leafs low ball offer to Marner?
Wasn’t it 14M over 8 years ….
yeah the taxes do suck here.They have been lowballing him since his first contract. Then the bullshit with Babcock. Then the bullshit narratives about his parents, being threatened, robbed and doxxed. Always fucking around with his value, maybe they expected him to take less because he was a hometown kid. But at the same time they always caved in to Nylander, Tavares and Matthews and giving them whatever the fuck they wanted in the end. The media (which they own) used him as a scapegoat for their own failures. The Leafs preferred the fans blame Marner rather than realize the franchise fucked up. If they had treated him with more respect and recognized his value to the franchise, he would have stayed for 14 AAV x 8. The most the Leafs ever offered was 12 AAV x 8 and yes that’s a low ball offer considering retarded Canadian taxes which makes that 12 AAV a lot less than the 12 AAV he got in Vegas.
If they signed him to 14 AAV x 8, it would have been a tight fit this year but they would have been fine for 2026/2027 as the cap went up big time. Matthews wouldn’t have fallen off a cliff, the Leafs PP would have been effective from the start of the season and they would have made the playoffs 3rd in the division, at worst as a Wild Card team. Instead, they became a lottery team.
Hmm I said Hart was MVP of the series. You never mentioned game 4 in your reply. Just that Vegas outshot Colorado. A sane person would read that as you meaning the series. Keep on lying bro if that is what allows you to cope.
And against Utah he had some horrible games (four games with a SV% below .900) but Vegas (Marner) pulled together and still won the series. Because like a true winner, Vegas plays like a team.
Game 1 Marner created a beautiful goal for Dorofeyev on the PP and Howden gave Vegas a 3-0 early in the 3rd period. Barbashev and Eichel had great performances in Game 2. Vegas was down 3-0 after the 1st period when Hart allowed 3 goals. Who won them that game? Stone, Karlsson, Hertl and Marner sparked that comeback offensively. Kolesar from the 4th line tied the game. Hertl got the GWG despite playing like dogshit for the first two rounds. Game 4, Vegas held Colorado to 21 shots, gave them nothing on the PP when they were the most desperate.
Hart was very good in this series but Vegas played two perfect road games. They had an excellent PK and scored a lot of goals to bail him out in Game 3. Vegas is also 2nd in the playoffs in blocked shots. They’re doing absolutely everything in their power to help Hart. Marner deserves credit for having 3 points in 4 games, being an ice-time leader in all situations, playing excellent on the PK and doing all the little things right to help shut down MacKinnon (ZERO GOALS) who became a non-factor offensively despite being unstoppable all season long. It’s more than just the goalie.
The only cope here is you trying to come up with any bullshit excuse not to admit the Leafs fucked up when they pushed Marner out the door. Your excuse was that they played vs. shit teams. That exploded in your face when he helped sweep the best team in the NHL. You cried that Makar was hurt but ignored that Stone missed the first two games of the series. Funny how if Colorado doesn’t have Makar they become a shit team all of a sudden. Must be because he’s super important. Must also be why the Leafs turned into a shit team without Marner. Nah, you’re too retarded to be able to make that type of realization.
Andersen with another playoff shutout by the way. Oh wait, that doesn’t count because Montreal is shit and barely got any shots on net. But if Vegas does it, the goalie is the MVP. Pure retard logic flows through your brain dead head.
Bullshit. Marner goes in the corners, he goes to the front of the net and he does it even though he’s one of the smallest guys on the ice. It’s just a made up narrative your dumbass believes.
The “crybaby” shit is more garbage you buy from media. None of his current teammates or coach buy that garbage but you do. It’s retarded and false.
Like I’ve said forever I’ve thought this about him since he was here in London lol
Talented as hell? Yes. Whiner? Yup.
Anyways can we get onto something I actually am hating? This fucking game!!! Ugh!!! I’d love to see Mitch play the Habs in the final (the team in Canada) but it’s not looking that it’s going to work out that way 😐
Turn out the lights Habs. When are they gonna learn? They need to chip and chase, but instead they try to beat Carolina by trying to skate it into the zone. You have to shoot it in and try to retrieve the puck, turning the defense around. Montreal is toast.
What was the Leafs low ball offer to Marner?
Wasn’t it 14M over 8 years ….
yeah the taxes do suck here.Your forgot one other very important thing in why Marner is having the success he is now in Vegas (that he didn’t in Toronto):
3. He is now on a team where he is not part of the leadership group, virtually unknown outside of the rink, & is not expected to be one of the core group who will live or die based on the team’s success. He sits behind Mark Stone, Shea Theadore, Jack Eichel, Karlsson, Hanifin in that regard. Let’s call a spade a spade – he was in that position in Toronto and he (and the rest of the core) couldn’t deliver full stop.
And you forgot the most important part; the Leafs can’t build a team. As soon as Marner left, the Leafs fell off a cliff and he went to the Cup Final.
Facts are facts.
Hmm I said Hart was MVP of the series. You never mentioned game 4 in your reply. Just that Vegas outshot Colorado. A sane person would read that as you meaning the series. Keep on lying bro if that is what allows you to cope.
Your forgot one other very important thing in why Marner is having the success he is now in Vegas (that he didn’t in Toronto):
3. He is now on a team where he is not part of the leadership group, virtually unknown outside of the rink, & is not expected to be one of the core group who will live or die based on the team’s success. He sits behind Mark Stone, Shea Theadore, Jack Eichel, Karlsson, Hanifin in that regard. Let’s call a spade a spade – he was in that position in Toronto and he (and the rest of the core) couldn’t deliver full stop.
And you forgot the most important part; the Leafs can’t build a team. As soon as Marner left, the Leafs fell off a cliff and he went to the Cup Final.
Facts are facts.
I am coping apparently you are not and are a fucking huge liar.
Shots on goal
Game 1 Col 38 Vegas 28
Game 2 Col 31 Vegas 25
Game 3 Col 35 Vegas 23
Also you were licking Freddie’s balls after 2 rounds of playing bad teams. He has been horrible against the Habs. So quit making excuses for 2nd line Mitch. Yeah the fucking guy who had 3 points (only 1 that was at 5 vs 5) against Colorado. He piled up the points against weak teams.
So lay off the drugs, get back to reality and you will realize we are coping.
I gave Hart credit for playing better than he has all year. He’s let in a lot of shitty goals this year. I said they held Colorado to 21 shots in Game 4, not the entire series. They also held Colorado to 0 PP goals, something Marner had a direct hand in that you will never give him credit for because you’re a retard who needs to die on the hill of blue and white dumbasses.
The Habs have a horseshoe up their ass. They play low quality hockey and get lucky breaks. But again, why is it that former Leafs are in the Final Four while the Leafs are golfing? Because you’re too retarded, like the franchise, to realize what talent is.
You must be getting high off Nylander’s hair spray again or maybe you got his balls slapping your chin so hard you can’t see the screen anymore. Marner leads the playoffs in scoring and is in the Stanley Cup Final. The Leafs are one of the worst teams in the league without him. Cope harder bitch ass retard.
It doesn’t matter anymore. He’s gone. He acted like a mercenary during contract talks. His father disparaged the franchise, during said talks. He was treated like a God and was the toast of the town, with Willy and Austin. I don’t forgive him for not waiving his no trade when the Leafs wanted to trade him to Carolina for Mikko Rantanen. He just decide to screw the team over and did so. Marner is no leader. He always had someone shielding him for his on ice play. He always played with the top talent, with the Leafs, or in International play. He also made the comment about his dark days in Toronto. Can I have a serving of this? I’ll take $11M plus to put up with Steve Simmonds, etc. I wish him luck in winning a Stanley Cup. I think the Leafs needed to go in a different direction and the Draft Lottery provides this opportunity. Now, they just need to give the memo to Rielly and a few other freeloaders who’ve gotten too comfortable in Toronto.
Absolutely wrong. Leafs low balled him not realizing how important he was to the success of the Leafs. Leafs franchise deserves to be disparaged because they’re run by a bunch of retards and supported by even more retards. He was the scapegoat, not a God while Tavares wore his pajamas and completely disappeared vs. the Panthers but receives nothing but love because he plays for cheap while the team loses games. 100% his right to not waive to go to Carolina. He wanted to stay in Toronto. The team ran him out of town and turned the fans against him to buy themselves another year of freedom from responsibility for building a shit team around the biggest load of talent they’ve had since 1967.
You aren’t worth 11 million. He is. Yes, he’s a public figure but the majority of the hatred that came from the team, media and the fans was misdirected and Toronto has become a shithole city so why put up with it any longer when the franchise, the media and the fans give you every reason to leave it behind? To keep some retards happy so they can blame you the next time the team fucks up again?
You are in full blown Marner Derangement cope mode using Lib logic. The Leafs went in a “different direction” thinking they could contend for a Cup without him. They ended up one of the worst teams without him. Again, clearly Rielly has sucked for years but who got pushed out of town? Marner. Why? Because the Leafs are way too “nice” to push the actual dog shit players out and keep the good ones.
