Mike Fink — Ranking the NHL Rebuilds Closest to Contention — Flyers (6th)

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  • #22730
    Flyers_01
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    Hahahaha! I’m not discounting Buium. He may prove to be a great fit in MIN but you’re trashing the team over them selecting Luchanko over Buium when neither has proved anything in the pros . .. oh wait, Luchanko was pretty good in the playoffs for LHV. They were both drafted high enough, they should both have a 90% chance of being NHL regulars. We already have the Buium type Dman here and I would rather have a center than a duplicate of that. This is not complicated.

    I am not discounting Luchanko as a player, just as the BPA when the Flyers drafted. Buium was a consensus steal at a position of critical need, outside of the Flyers war room. They even traded out of their spot to avoid taking him. This has the making of when the Eagles selected Reagor over Justin Jefferson because Raegor was a better fit despite JJ being the consensus better talent. Roseman publicly admitted that after that embarrassing screwup he switched from drafting for fit to BPA and it’s worked out pretty well for him. God forbid the Flyers learn anything from the Eagles.

    Jett playing in a few AHL playoff games has no bearing on his NHL potential or career. Hopefully he has improved from the shitshow he was when they tried to force him onto the roster last year. The Flyers need him to pan out but even if he does. When does the actual rebuild start? Still no #1 Center, #1 D, #1 goalie. Rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.

    #22702
    yes its me 2050
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    Can’t wait for preseason. Here “boosh” and the rest talk up Macdonald, vlader, and the rest of the irrelevant players.

    How this year is different. How geat tocchet will be for this team. A new era of orange

    #22701
    FlyerFrank
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    nhl playoffs > ahl playoffs. no matter what spin you try to put on it

    Really??!! Shocking. Less than a month and we’ll see some pre-season games see how the team shakes out. You should be able to watch most Wild games on the NHL Network. Enjoy!

    #22699
    yes its me 2050
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    meanwhile Buium was playing in the NHL playoffs.

    no they do not have a buium type player on the roster or system.

    He got into 4 out of 6 games and was a minus player in a losing effort to Vegas. I’m not trashing the guy. He’ll be an NHL regular. Luchanko had 6 points in 7 AHL playoff games. Of course, just a reminder, the Flyers didn’t make the NHL playoffs.

    nhl playoffs > ahl playoffs. no matter what spin you try to put on it

    #22695
    FlyerFrank
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    meanwhile Buium was playing in the NHL playoffs.

    no they do not have a buium type player on the roster or system.

    He got into 4 out of 6 games and was a minus player in a losing effort to Vegas. I’m not trashing the guy. He’ll be an NHL regular. Luchanko had 6 points in 7 AHL playoff games. Of course, just a reminder, the Flyers didn’t make the NHL playoffs.

    #22690
    yes its me 2050
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    I highly doubt Brink is going to be an exceptional player. He’s also 5’8″. Buium (6′, 185), who you discount based on size/weight is not small by any measure. He is the same size/weight as other cup winning defensemen such as Makar and appears to have the traits and resume of an exceptional future player, Jett does not. Jett, who is smaller (5’11”) and lighter (180) has the resume a “born to be a flyer” player. Oh no, he fails every metric you declared for being hard to play against and yet you ignore it.

    Hahahaha! I’m not discounting Buium. He may prove to be a great fit in MIN but you’re trashing the team over them selecting Luchanko over Buium when neither has proved anything in the pros . .. oh wait, Luchanko was pretty good in the playoffs for LHV. They were both drafted high enough, they should both have a 90% chance of being NHL regulars. We already have the Buium type Dman here and I would rather have a center than a duplicate of that. This is not complicated.

    meanwhile Buium was playing in the NHL playoffs.

    no they do not have a buium type player on the roster or system.

    #22686
    FlyerFrank
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    I highly doubt Brink is going to be an exceptional player. He’s also 5’8″. Buium (6′, 185), who you discount based on size/weight is not small by any measure. He is the same size/weight as other cup winning defensemen such as Makar and appears to have the traits and resume of an exceptional future player, Jett does not. Jett, who is smaller (5’11”) and lighter (180) has the resume a “born to be a flyer” player. Oh no, he fails every metric you declared for being hard to play against and yet you ignore it.

    Hahahaha! I’m not discounting Buium. He may prove to be a great fit in MIN but you’re trashing the team over them selecting Luchanko over Buium when neither has proved anything in the pros . .. oh wait, Luchanko was pretty good in the playoffs for LHV. They were both drafted high enough, they should both have a 90% chance of being NHL regulars. We already have the Buium type Dman here and I would rather have a center than a duplicate of that. This is not complicated.

    #22682
    Flyers_01
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    Size matters but exceptional players are exceptions. Is Bobby Brink an exceptional player? I don’t think he is. The center situation is a little better this year and a man deeper with Luchanko if he can pull it off. If not, they might have to scramble at 4C if there’s a long injury or Tocchet just wants to work both Cates and Dvorak into the top 9. If Zegras gets back to a .7 or so PPG level, he’s your number one center. I think he can do a little better. The D still needs work. There are only so many guys in the league that are better than Sanheim. It’s not that long a list.

    I highly doubt Brink is going to be an exceptional player. He’s also 5’8″. Buium (6′, 185), who you discount based on size/weight is not small by any measure. He is the same size/weight as other cup winning defensemen such as Makar and appears to have the traits and resume of an exceptional future player, Jett does not. Jett, who is smaller (5’11”) and lighter (180) has the resume a “born to be a flyer” player. Oh no, he fails every metric you declared for being hard to play against and yet you ignore it.

    #22583
    FlyerFrank
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    where do you see dvorak playing in this lineup?

    If you want the most talent in your top 9, he plays 3C behind Zegras and Couturier with Cates flipping to wing. I’d do that. Can’t say what Tocchet will do.

    #22578
    yes its me 2050
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    Never said he was. Your arguments are a bit all over the place. So do you not care about size of forwards now? Is it the size on defense that contained McDavid or was it the defense backchecking like demons? Backchecking is not dependent on being huge. The puck is at ice level for everyone. Does skill matter at all in your world or is everyone Nick Seeler in a 6′ 200lb frame? It seems your position seems to change depending on the post.

    Luchanko will definately make the team this year. Ready or not. Look how bad he was last year and they still tried to force him onto the roster. If he didn’t poop the bed so bad he might’ve gotten his 10 games in at least. It’s not like he had a stellar training camp either.

    The Flyers could use a franchise center, franchise dman, and franchise goalie. You still haven’t addressed how the Flyers are going to acquire those necessary pieces.

    Imagine Sanheim only having to be your #2 or #3 dman. Imagine Coots as your #2 center and Luchanko as your #3 center. Imagine, because that’s the only place you see the Flyers as a good team.

    Size matters but exceptional players are exceptions. Is Bobby Brink an exceptional player? I don’t think he is. The center situation is a little better this year and a man deeper with Luchanko if he can pull it off. If not, they might have to scramble at 4C if there’s a long injury or Tocchet just wants to work both Cates and Dvorak into the top 9. If Zegras gets back to a .7 or so PPG level, he’s your number one center. I think he can do a little better. The D still needs work. There are only so many guys in the league that are better than Sanheim. It’s not that long a list.

    where do you see dvorak playing in this lineup?

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