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December 19, 2025 at 4:37 pm #55693
EggsBenny
ParticipantRip the C from his jersey and I’m willing to bet he’ll accept getting moved. He flat out does not drive the team, good player with talent but he’s a shitty leader.
As for the team I do kinda feel bad for Berube. He’s yet to have the goaltending plan which was having both Stolarz and Woll bouncing back and forth in the stating roll, they’ve yet to even be in a game together. And then their D has been crumbled by injury as well, look at right now for instance, two of their top 4 D men, like them or not, are hurt.
It has unfortunately seems to have lead to the team not caring enough now, so Tre needs to find a way to amp up them giving a shit and I’m thinking it’s going to take a fresh face behind the bench. I could be wrong, I am a lot lol, but I won’t be shocked if I’m not about this.
Giving matthews the C was such a bad moved.
Also, Tre signed a couple of older players long term….one of which has history of injuries.
Tre also extended two goalies who have a history of injuries.
So some of the injuries the leafs have had arent that much of surprise imo.I think Berube has 3 years left, not a good look on Tre if he fires him before year two of his contract finishes.
BUT!
Pete DeBoer is available….maybe thats enticing to Tre?[/quote]
re-arranging the deck chairs on the titanic.Fake the flake!
December 19, 2025 at 4:26 pm #55692Dozzer
ParticipantGiving matthews the C was such a bad moved.
Also, Tre signed a couple of older players long term….one of which has history of injuries.
Tre also extended two goalies who have a history of injuries.
So some of the injuries the leafs have had arent that much of surprise imo.I think Berube has 3 years left, not a good look on Tre if he fires him before year two of his contract finishes.
BUT!
Pete DeBoer is available….maybe thats enticing to Tre?
Extending Stolarz was a mistake before he proved he was capable of ensuring a starter’s role without well… hurting himself. I like him but I didn’t like that.
The D is questionable but not the end of the world, the injuries that hit them back there arent really age related, just sad BS bad luck.
As for the coaches contract who cares? The leafs have more than enough $ to pay off Berube’s contract, so if the team isn’t listening to him it’s simply one of two choices. 1: keep him and start tearing the team down or 2: fire him and give it one last try under someone else.
December 19, 2025 at 2:54 pm #55682Fakepartofme
ParticipantRip the C from his jersey and I’m willing to bet he’ll accept getting moved. He flat out does not drive the team, good player with talent but he’s a shitty leader.
As for the team I do kinda feel bad for Berube. He’s yet to have the goaltending plan which was having both Stolarz and Woll bouncing back and forth in the stating roll, they’ve yet to even be in a game together. And then their D has been crumbled by injury as well, look at right now for instance, two of their top 4 D men, like them or not, are hurt.
It has unfortunately seems to have lead to the team not caring enough now, so Tre needs to find a way to amp up them giving a shit and I’m thinking it’s going to take a fresh face behind the bench. I could be wrong, I am a lot lol, but I won’t be shocked if I’m not about this.[/quote]
Giving matthews the C was such a bad moved.
Also, Tre signed a couple of older players long term….one of which has history of injuries.
Tre also extended two goalies who have a history of injuries.
So some of the injuries the leafs have had arent that much of surprise imo.I think Berube has 3 years left, not a good look on Tre if he fires him before year two of his contract finishes.
BUT!
Pete DeBoer is available….maybe thats enticing to Tre?
December 19, 2025 at 2:49 pm #55681Fakepartofme
ParticipantI guess we’ll find out soon enough, but Tre had the balls to try to get Mitch to waive to bring in Rants, so maybe he’ll make the hard-to-make moves now.
The next 6-8 months will define his career. Not stellar in Calgary, can he turn it around in Toronto?[/quote]
Trading two 1st round picks last deadline killed this team hope for a quick turnaround.
Both trades were huge overpayments.Tre has been a huge failure here so far.
December 19, 2025 at 2:31 pm #55679Dozzer
ParticipantAnd rightfully so. This is right out of the Oilers playbook. Team plays like shit, coach loses the room, fire coach, cup final. Granted, I don’t see the team as currently constructed doing much in the playoffs this year, (assuming they make it), but there is still a fuck ton of talent on this team, they just need someone to unlock it. I’d fucking love to see Torts come in and smack these fuckers with their own purses. I’m just about done with Matthews.
Rip the C from his jersey and I’m willing to bet he’ll accept getting moved. He flat out does not drive the team, good player with talent but he’s a shitty leader.
As for the team I do kinda feel bad for Berube. He’s yet to have the goaltending plan which was having both Stolarz and Woll bouncing back and forth in the stating roll, they’ve yet to even be in a game together. And then their D has been crumbled by injury as well, look at right now for instance, two of their top 4 D men, like them or not, are hurt.
It has unfortunately seems to have lead to the team not caring enough now, so Tre needs to find a way to amp up them giving a shit and I’m thinking it’s going to take a fresh face behind the bench. I could be wrong, I am a lot lol, but I won’t be shocked if I’m not about this.
December 19, 2025 at 1:57 pm #55673WHIPPER
ParticipantI guess we’ll find out soon enough, but Tre had the balls to try to get Mitch to waive to bring in Rants, so maybe he’ll make the hard-to-make moves now.
The next 6-8 months will define his career. Not stellar in Calgary, can he turn it around in Toronto?
It won’t look pretty. Matthews, Nylander, and Rielly will choose where they want to go if they want to go anywhere and that will limit the return coupled with their salary amount which will also limit their return. The leafs will have to take salary back which means they won’t get as many picks/prospects as they would like.
Tbh I’m guessing if anything happens it will be a new coach first, not a blow up.
And rightfully so. This is right out of the Oilers playbook. Team plays like shit, coach loses the room, fire coach, cup final. Granted, I don’t see the team as currently constructed doing much in the playoffs this year, (assuming they make it), but there is still a fuck ton of talent on this team, they just need someone to unlock it. I’d fucking love to see Torts come in and smack these fuckers with their own purses. I’m just about done with Matthews.
December 19, 2025 at 1:54 pm #55672Dozzer
ParticipantI guess we’ll find out soon enough, but Tre had the balls to try to get Mitch to waive to bring in Rants, so maybe he’ll make the hard-to-make moves now.
The next 6-8 months will define his career. Not stellar in Calgary, can he turn it around in Toronto?
It won’t look pretty. Matthews, Nylander, and Rielly will choose where they want to go if they want to go anywhere and that will limit the return coupled with their salary amount which will also limit their return. The leafs will have to take salary back which means they won’t get as many picks/prospects as they would like.
Tbh I’m guessing if anything happens it will be a new coach first, not a blow up.
December 19, 2025 at 1:48 pm #55671WHIPPER
ParticipantThat would actually be awesome.
Would be a fantastic statement but terrible for the value of our players for the rebuild so hope it doesn’t go that way.
Need this team to realize it’s time to rebuild, without being a lottery team but still have enough value in the older players to sell off for assets.
It’s a tough situation and Treliving isn’t up to it, that’s a guarantee.
I guess we’ll find out soon enough, but Tre had the balls to try to get Mitch to waive to bring in Rants, so maybe he’ll make the hard-to-make moves now.
The next 6-8 months will define his career. Not stellar in Calgary, can he turn it around in Toronto?
December 19, 2025 at 1:37 pm #55669senstrolltwo
ParticipantDubas/Keefe had flaws, but the teams were better
https://x.com/JeffVeillette/status/2002030567450403078?s=20
I wasnt a fan of the Treliving hiring from the start, mainly because he didnt do much in calgary and the same is playing out with the Leafs. but has he ever gradually ground this team to awful.
Burube is a shit coach also. but a bad combo. just a downward trend all overDecember 19, 2025 at 11:23 am #55663Dozzer
ParticipantSounds like you’ve lived had a good life, man. All the bullshit aside, I’d probably trade places with you for a few years in your 20’s haha.
Since I’ve been to Ireland, I just can’t shake the vibes of that place. I’d move there in a second, just for the music and pub culture.
My name it is Sam Hall, chimney sweep chimney sweep!
Oh it was a blast of a life… if you can handle living out of an Astro mini van with 4 other guys that is 😂
As for Ireland I’d love to go.. we have a daughter living in Scotland going to school there right now… so happy and jealous for/of her at the same time lol
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