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November 13, 2025 at 9:34 pm #48833
Dozzer
ParticipantYou’re bang on. One of my favourite players turned into one of my most hated executives. Shanny set us back, big time.
A great player wanted to be the great office man I get it, but he didn’t learn first. He could have sat back there, when he started, take it all in from who he got to begin with, and he’d be still running them now in a way we can’t even think of.
November 13, 2025 at 9:35 pm #48834Canada Cup
ParticipantLeafs get a point!
November 13, 2025 at 9:36 pm #48835dmnted
ParticipantOT
Here we goNovember 13, 2025 at 9:38 pm #48836WHIPPER
ParticipantLeafs are doing their best to lose this game.
Great success!!!
November 13, 2025 at 9:38 pm #48837Canada Cup
ParticipantFack
As AnnGee would say, goodnight boys.
Yuck.
November 13, 2025 at 9:38 pm #48838dmnted
ParticipantNovember 13, 2025 at 9:39 pm #48839Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantA great player wanted to be the great office man I get it, but he didn’t learn first. He could have sat back there, when he started, take it all in from who he got to begin with, and he’d be still running them now in a way we can’t even think of.
Shanahan pushed Lou out the door because he refused go learn from the expert. That was the beginning of the end, already then.
Doughty was always right about this team. 100%.
November 13, 2025 at 9:39 pm #48840Dozzer
ParticipantLeafs get a point!
Lol
November 13, 2025 at 9:44 pm #48841fifty mission cap
ParticipantOutshot 37-15.
November 13, 2025 at 9:45 pm #48842Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantOutshot 37-15.
88 to 34 in attempts. On home ice. Disgusting.
November 13, 2025 at 9:51 pm #48843Dozzer
ParticipantShanahan pushed Lou out the door because he refused go learn from the expert. That was the beginning of the end, already then.
Doughty was always right about this team. 100%.
There is a bitterness there, they both started the same year.
Lou became GM of NJ 87-88 (year 1 lol) and it was him who drafted Shanny who started playing the same year lol.
Shanny couldn’t take it again in Toronto lol
November 13, 2025 at 10:02 pm #48844Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantThere is a bitterness there, they both started the same year.
Lou became GM of NJ 87-88 (year 1 lol) and it was him who drafted Shanny who started playing the same year lol.
Shanny couldn’t take it again in Toronto lol
Or a lack of loyalty from Shanahan towards Lou. Shanahan thought he had the boy wonder when he picked Dubas. Or knew he could control him as a puppet GM. He went with the spreadsheets instead of the experience of a multiple time Cup champion HHOF builder.
Lou was manager of the year, at least once if not twice with the NYI. If he stayed, the Leafs would have been better and gone further. Can’t say they’d win for sure but a better chances for sure. He wouldn’t have played games with the stupid contracts or allow the country club to control the team.
I’d bring him back today to rebuild this team properly as hockey president.
November 13, 2025 at 10:28 pm #48846Dozzer
ParticipantOr a lack of loyalty from Shanahan towards Lou. Shanahan thought he had the boy wonder when he picked Dubas. Or knew he could control him as a puppet GM. He went with the spreadsheets instead of the experience of a multiple time Cup champion HHOF builder.
Lou was manager of the year, at least once if not twice with the NYI. If he stayed, the Leafs would have been better and gone further. Can’t say they’d win for sure but a better chances for sure. He wouldn’t have played games with the stupid contracts or allow the country club to control the team.
I’d bring him back today to rebuild this team properly as hockey president.
I don’t know, believe what you want but I just think it’s a lot simpler.
Shanny just couldn’t lean on the guy who drafted him when it came to the team he was running. It’s like expecting dad to take care of your house. lol
November 13, 2025 at 10:30 pm #48847Dozzer
ParticipantDon’t get me wrong UG, that’s my point, I’m thinking Shanny called it “his team” too soon, even if he was the president.
November 13, 2025 at 11:49 pm #48848Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI don’t know, believe what you want but I just think it’s a lot simpler.
Shanny just couldn’t lean on the guy who drafted him when it came to the team he was running. It’s like expecting dad to take care of your house. lol
I think it’s as simple as it gets; Shanahan wanted complete control and having Lou in the organization was a threat. If things went poorly, ownership would eventually remove Shanahan and promote Lou. Instead, Shanahan wanted a puppet GM and ownership, as ignorant as they ever have been about hockey, allowed it. Dubas was his pet. Treliving was hired to be the same until Shanahan got fired. And as we can see, Treliving is a glorified assistant GM who is running this team even further into the ground than Shanahan did.
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