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  • #48833
    Dozzer
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    You’re bang on. One of my favourite players turned into one of my most hated executives. Shanny set us back, big time.

    A great player wanted to be the great office man I get it, but he didn’t learn first. He could have sat back there, when he started, take it all in from who he got to begin with, and he’d be still running them now in a way we can’t even think of.

    #48834
    Canada Cup
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    Leafs get a point!

    #48835
    dmnted
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    OT
    Here we go

    #48836
    WHIPPER
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    Leafs are doing their best to lose this game.

    Great success!!!

    #48837
    Canada Cup
    Participant

    Fack

    As AnnGee would say, goodnight boys.

    Yuck.

    #48838
    dmnted
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    OT
    Here we go

    jesus.

    they look lost out there in OT

    #48839
    Unholy_Goalie
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    A great player wanted to be the great office man I get it, but he didn’t learn first. He could have sat back there, when he started, take it all in from who he got to begin with, and he’d be still running them now in a way we can’t even think of.

    Shanahan pushed Lou out the door because he refused go learn from the expert. That was the beginning of the end, already then.

    Doughty was always right about this team. 100%.

    #48840
    Dozzer
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    Leafs get a point!

    Lol

    #48841
    fifty mission cap
    Participant

    Outshot 37-15.

    #48842
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Outshot 37-15.

    88 to 34 in attempts. On home ice. Disgusting.

    #48843
    Dozzer
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    Shanahan pushed Lou out the door because he refused go learn from the expert. That was the beginning of the end, already then.

    Doughty was always right about this team. 100%.

    There is a bitterness there, they both started the same year.

    Lou became GM of NJ 87-88 (year 1 lol) and it was him who drafted Shanny who started playing the same year lol.

    Shanny couldn’t take it again in Toronto lol

    #48844
    Unholy_Goalie
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    There is a bitterness there, they both started the same year.

    Lou became GM of NJ 87-88 (year 1 lol) and it was him who drafted Shanny who started playing the same year lol.

    Shanny couldn’t take it again in Toronto lol

    Or a lack of loyalty from Shanahan towards Lou. Shanahan thought he had the boy wonder when he picked Dubas. Or knew he could control him as a puppet GM. He went with the spreadsheets instead of the experience of a multiple time Cup champion HHOF builder.

    Lou was manager of the year, at least once if not twice with the NYI. If he stayed, the Leafs would have been better and gone further. Can’t say they’d win for sure but a better chances for sure. He wouldn’t have played games with the stupid contracts or allow the country club to control the team.

    I’d bring him back today to rebuild this team properly as hockey president.

    #48846
    Dozzer
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    Or a lack of loyalty from Shanahan towards Lou. Shanahan thought he had the boy wonder when he picked Dubas. Or knew he could control him as a puppet GM. He went with the spreadsheets instead of the experience of a multiple time Cup champion HHOF builder.

    Lou was manager of the year, at least once if not twice with the NYI. If he stayed, the Leafs would have been better and gone further. Can’t say they’d win for sure but a better chances for sure. He wouldn’t have played games with the stupid contracts or allow the country club to control the team.

    I’d bring him back today to rebuild this team properly as hockey president.

    I don’t know, believe what you want but I just think it’s a lot simpler.

    Shanny just couldn’t lean on the guy who drafted him when it came to the team he was running. It’s like expecting dad to take care of your house. lol

    #48847
    Dozzer
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    Don’t get me wrong UG, that’s my point, I’m thinking Shanny called it “his team” too soon, even if he was the president.

    #48848
    Unholy_Goalie
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    I don’t know, believe what you want but I just think it’s a lot simpler.

    Shanny just couldn’t lean on the guy who drafted him when it came to the team he was running. It’s like expecting dad to take care of your house. lol

    I think it’s as simple as it gets; Shanahan wanted complete control and having Lou in the organization was a threat. If things went poorly, ownership would eventually remove Shanahan and promote Lou. Instead, Shanahan wanted a puppet GM and ownership, as ignorant as they ever have been about hockey, allowed it. Dubas was his pet. Treliving was hired to be the same until Shanahan got fired. And as we can see, Treliving is a glorified assistant GM who is running this team even further into the ground than Shanahan did.

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