Rangers End Road Trip 0 For 3

[airjan23]

The New York Rangers completed their three-game California road trip with their third straight loss Friday, falling 3-1 to the Sharks. New York, once
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[nyrangers9479]

Can anyone post the text from the Times? Need an account to read it .

[aecliptic]

Has there been a situation where a top 5 pick who had to the point of the trade been a total disappointment, got traded and turned into a megastar?

[slimtj]

I think what they should do with Laf, once they trade Panarin, is move him to LW permanently. It’s his natural side. Trading him for essentially peanuts is not the way to go. They need to try something to unlock him. He has flashes but it’s so inconsistent. Stating the obvious but this could be affecting his development. Hot word in these parts

And side note, losses are better than wins. Going 0-30 is perfect

• This reply was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by slimtj.

[slimtj]

In the immortal words of Tom Burton, embrace the tank

[nyrangers9479]

I agree with keeping Laf unless it’s a deal like Laf for Wright. 2 guys with pedigree that need a change of scenery.

That’s why the Kakko trade infuriated me, scrub dman and nonsense pick. Would’ve been better off keeping him. Then the moron doubled down and signed him to that contract.

[slimtj]

Trocheck half retained is optimal, as NYR has said. It will not kill them at all on the cap. They have more than enough space and very little options to spend it on. I do puck pedia everyday and I can’t spend it nearly to the max. Like ever

Look at teams like Minnesota, Detroit, Avs

-Drury, Girard and a 1st

-Stramel, maybe Middleton or Brodin and a first

-Kasper, maybe axel-pellika? Spelling, and a first

For trocheck (50%)

And I’m not being a doosh at all, but I think Drury is very likely to trade for Jack if they talk about either Trocheck or Panarin

McKinnon
Nelson
Trocheck

Is lethal

[aecliptic]

slimtj wrote:

I think what they should do with Laf, once they trade Panarin, is move him to LW permanently. It’s his natural side. Trading him for essentially peanuts is not the way to go. They need to try something to unlock him. He has flashes but it’s so inconsistent. Stating the obvious but this could be affecting his development. Hot word in these parts

And side note, losses are better than wins. Going 0-30 is perfect

Well, trading LAF for Wright is probably the only right trade to make as things are currently. Especially if they move on from Trocheck. Other than that, I wouldnt bother moving LAF. Hes at his absolute lowest value wise and he has another year left on his contract thats unprotected.

[slimtj]

A lot of Drurys decisions were cap related. And a lot of the problems stemmed from the Covid year. The cap stagnant really messed them up. It’s not an excuse it’s just fact. I don’t think Drury handled that well, to be fair to the haters. But he was under alot of pressure. Panarin 11 million really put them in a corner and snowballed into a mess pretty much

I just think now it’s different set of circumstances where the can be a lot less aggressive and spend more wisely. Dolan is a bigger problem than Drury imo. And there is nothing we can do about that, but I think Dolan has understood to back off some. Kind of like he did with the Knicks

I’m not trying to fight. I just want talk rangers and how to get better. They needed to do this as hard as it is to watch, last year included

• This reply was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by slimtj.
• This reply was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by slimtj.

[nyrangers9479]

TJ, my issue with you saying “they needed to do this and Drury knew last year” if true, would show even further how dumb drury is. Imagine the pick last year was top 10 and Drury decided to keep it, and now we might be giving up a top 3 pick instead? We got “lucky” we only gave up the 12th OA pick.

Those aren’t the types of moves a smart GM makes given the state of the team last year and knowing his intention was to continue to tear it down. He loses on trades a lot more than he wins.

[nyrangers9479]

I wouldn’t want to trade Panarin or Trocheck to Minn. their prospect pool and picks are GUTTED. Stramel is in his 4th year in college with so so numbers. He’d be a fringe 3rd liner at best. Hard pass on a trade with Minn.

DET is the team we need to try and make a trade with, they’re loaded.

[aecliptic]

slimtj wrote:

A lot of Drurys decisions were cap related. And a lot of the problems stemmed from the Covid year. The cap stagnant really messed them up. It’s not an excuse it’s just fact. I don’t think Drury handled that well, to be fair to the haters. But he was under alot of pressure. Panarin 11 million really put them in a corner and snowballed into a mess pretty much

I just think now it’s different set of circumstances where the can be a lot less aggressive and spend more wisely. Dolan is a bigger problem than Drury imo. And there is nothing we can do about that, but I think Dolan has understood to back off some. Kind of like he did with the Knicks

I’m not trying to fight. I just want talk rangers and how to get better. They needed to do this as hard as it is to watch, last year included

Fact of the matter is, Drury has one way to approach the deadline. If hes not going after 1st round picks and high end prospects given the state of the team, not even you can keep defending him anymore. I know you want Robo, but it wouldnt be the right move to make.

[slimtj]

Well you don’t want to hear this either, but you can’t lose your best defenseman and goalie for extended periods of time. I think they planned on making the playoffs at least, but shit happens. Find a team where that didn’t kill their season. Literally the two guys who they couldn’t lose. They were doing pretty much doing everything right but score consistently. They were winning road games like nobody’s business

Your inability to let anything go is one of the craziest things I’ve ever seen on the internet. It’s nuts

Again, Buch and Kakko combined have less goals then Mika. Let it gooooo. They will make up for the picks in due time, just give it time for gods sake.

I want to talk hockey but all we do is rehearse shit from half a decade ago. It’s so frustrating

[aecliptic]

nyrangers9479 wrote:

I wouldn’t want to trade Panarin or Trocheck to Minn. their prospect pool and picks are GUTTED. Stramel is in his 4th year in college with so so numbers. He’d be a fringe 3rd liner at best. Hard pass on a trade with Minn.

DET is the team we need to try and make a trade with, they’re loaded.

I just cant picture the Wings trading Danielson, not in a trade for Trocheck nor Panarin. Maybe if it was Trocheck and Cuylle or Perreault.

[nyrangers9479]

They had Fox and Shesty last year when they didn’t make the playoffs either ………

[slimtj]

But they were playing better this year. At home yea idk wtf was going on. They were playing way better than last year overall, mostly defensively. Shesty went down and it deflated them, you could see it that game

• This reply was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by slimtj.

[aecliptic]

tj, before Fox and Shesty went down, we were still a .500 team, and we were like bottom 3-4 in the East.

We might not have been giving up much, but we also werent scoring.

• This reply was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by aecliptic.

[nyrangers9479]

Sullivan is also a major problem. Not known as a development coach, and he hasn’t won a playoff series in 8 years. He was another wrong choice by drury.

[slimtj]

Ok so it has no bearing on the results we’re seeing since new years. Unbelievable. Martin leaves beach ball size rebounds and makes the defense look horrific for one thing. Quick is an old man. Schneider is clearly not a 1D. Those are indeed factors in this demise this year. The stats were in their favor before shesty at the very least. Fox maybe they stemmed the tide a little bit

• This reply was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by slimtj.

[slimtj]

Drury and Sullivan will get fired together imo. If that happens.

Drury definitely has no more rope I’ll give ya that. But they’re both getting at least two more years imo

[Brukie]

slimtj wrote:

Drury and Sullivan will get fired together imo. If that happens.

Drury definitely has no more rope I’ll give ya that. But they’re both getting at least two more years imo

Another quote that is going to age bad!!

LOL

[slimtj]

Letting JD go was the biggest mistake they made. Unfortunately JDs heart is big and didn’t want Gorton to go down by himself

[nyrangers9479]

You’re legit the last person I know that defends drury haha. It’s kinda comical at this point

[slimtj]

As far as the scoring, I think Sullivan was ok trying to win low scoring games and having them just be better defensively overall, as a team. They were doing that. Until they weren’t

I like the way Mika and miller have played since Perrault came. I think it’s a good thing heading into next year. The 3rd line has some promise. It’s the second line that will need an extreme makeover. You guys just can’t seem embrace Mika anymore, and obviously Miller will never be liked apparently. But they have chemistry, all 3 of them. Perrault needs more time and it will be a legit top 6 line

[slimtj]

I realize that lol. I’m alone. It’s mostly what choice do I have. I love this team. I’m not an idiot to know he hasn’t been great. I just think this new era he’s approaching is different than the pressure of being a contender…when in reality they really never were. It took me awhile to get there but I’m there now

I’m giving him a clean slate basically

[slimtj]

It’s always one thing that holds them back. The old Hank era teams it was killer instinct, the latest era was the leadership sucked. And kids not developing was definitely a big part of it. In theory playing the kids on a 3rd line should’ve worked but for some reason it just never really popped (laf and Kakko specifically). They both are decent players but no where even close to the expectations. Drury gets too much blame for that imo. The previous scouting was worse than it is now. It’s a shame Chytil kept getting hurt because he was the best of the bunch as far as game changing ability. I hope he does well but I worry he may have to retire too soon. How does Vancouver commit to him after this deal

[nyrangers9479]

Jiricek Yurov 2027 1st – Panarin

[slimtj]

Btw, even Jimmy can’t stand to talk to me anymore 🤣I think he’s done with Drury too. I’m faithful I guess

[nyrangers9479]

I’d also trade Fox but I know that’s very unpopular on here and in general.

[slimtj]

Yurov is untouchable I think. Puckpedia guys go bonkers if you ask for him. That’s why I bring up Stramel. I don’t know why you’re so against him. If he’s numbers went down in his 4th year I’d be worried, but they’ve gone up. He’s blowing past last years numbers. Big centers don’t grow on trees.

[slimtj]

I’d have traded Fox long ago, you know that. Too late now. Gavrikov is a great pick up it just isn’t showing right now. They’re a good pair

[slimtj]

What do you guys think of Cerrato? Canes prospect. They seem to draft very well. I see a lot of him, Kotkaniemi and a first for Trocheck trades. Seems reasonable. We can afford Kotkaniemi as a bottom 6 guy. Maybe move Laba to 4C and trade Carrick too

[nyrangers9479]

Trocheck 50% to TBL for Geekie 2026 2nd 2028 1st

[slimtj]

Brukie these are Dolans words. Not mine. He’s going to be patient. I don’t know to tell you other than he’s the owner and can do whatever he wants. This is how sport teams work

[nyrangers9479]

Dolan is a bozo for allowing drury to run this rebuild. Seeing how the last 5 years have gone and the moves he’s made, there’s 0 faith in anyone other than Dolan and TJ that this will go well.

I’ll see how he handles this sell off, but my guess is he’ll prioritize “NHL ready players” and not picks and prospects.

[slimtj]

My prediction is

For either one, Trocheck or Panarin, to the Avs for Drury, Colton and a first rder. Then he will flip Colton for something. And it will drive you guys bonkers 😂😬🤣

[picklerick]

https://x.com/mollieewalkerr/status/2015855124162216160?s=46&t=uyemCTfXPLjxebCnYBfx6Q

Soucy going to NYI. Sure why not? I hope they win it all. As much embarrassment for NYR ownership and management as possible

[slimtj]

If he gets a draft board like this

1st rders this year ‘26 – ours and Canes or stars. I’m not sure which one they get

Two 1st rders next year ‘27 – ours and one other team

Two 1st rders in ‘28 – ours and one other team

Thats 6 first rders spread out over 3 years, would be a good start. Maybe get a couple other picks and a prospect or two NHL ready or not doesn’t really matter to me.

We’re on the same as far as what to do most of the time

[slimtj]

Do we really give a frank where these guys go? I know it will give you guys something else to rant and rave about for a decade tho 😆

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[picklerick]

slimtj wrote:

Do we really give a frank where these guys go? I know it will give you guys something else to rant and rave about for a decade tho 😆

I see you’re still creating scenarios in your head to complain to us about

Who said they care

[nyrangers9479]

Hopefully it’s for a 2nd. Gave up a 3rd but will be a low 3rd. Would suck to basically swap our 3rd for the Isles 3rd. Could be a different of 20+ picks.

[picklerick]

nyrangers9479 wrote:

Hopefully it’s for a 2nd. Gave up a 3rd but will be a low 3rd. Would suck to basically swap our 3rd for the Isles 3rd. Could be a different of 20+ picks.

There’s just no way it’s a 2nd rounder

[nyrangers9479]

I could care less where any of them go. Whoever sends the best package can have whoever they want.

[nyrangers9479]

OTT has to forfeit their 1st this year bc of the Dadonov deal. They’d currently be selecting 8th depending on how the draft balls land. Imagine they win the lottery and have to forfeit that pick? They could’ve forfeited the 2024 or 2025 pick but decided to keep both, 7th overall in 2024 (makes sense) and 23rd overall in 2025 (pretty dumb to keep).

[slimtj]

It might be Tsyplakov. Who I’d take a stab at. He had a good year last year. Big winger

And Rick lighten up

[nyrangers9479]

I hope you’re wrong. 27 year old winger with 1 goal in 26 games. Is that you just speculating? Or did you see that somewhere

[picklerick]

Guys it’s gonna be a 3rd or 4th rounder

[nyrangers9479]

The 3rd we gave up for him was VGK’s, so not as bad if we get a 3rd back than if it was our 3rd.

[slimtj]

Rangers should retain on Soucy because they really only have 3 players to trade who they can do it with. Panarin Soucy and Trocheck. So that might make it a 3rd and Tsyplakov.

I’d be pretty surprised if isn’t Tsyplakov. Everyone is speculating on it. He would immediately replace Blidh

• This reply was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by slimtj.

[nyrangers9479]

Go get Alexander Karmanov. 7’ 270 lbs 17 year old dman.

[nyrangers9479]

If drury got Tsyplakov I’d be upset. He’s a 27 year old that’s not good at hockey. 1 goal in 26 games doesn’t inspire anything and would prove my point of drury not doing this the right way going after roster players.

[slimtj]

Everything makes you upset

Maybe Shabanov instead. If I remember the rangers were in on him

[nyrangers9479]

No, just get picks and prospects and do this right. Get the 3rd back that u gave up for him. Not a 27 year old with 1 goal. He’ll join the list of Brisson Parsenin Terrance etc

[slimtj]

A 3rd and Tsyplakov is what I’m saying, for Soucy 50% would be ideal. Isles will be buyers so it makes sense for them to do that

He was good last year it would simply be a reclamation project. Which is ok to try on players

[nyrangers9479]

Well wait and see

[slimtj]

It’s probably a bigger deal, or with a few extra details, for it to take this long to happen.

Remember Vatrano. That’s where he does well. Reclamation projects. No one barely heard of him until that trade and he was dynamite, and then he let him go 🤣🫣😥

[picklerick]

Ultimately this trade is not going to matter almost at all after it’s all said and done. I don’t care what we get but I doubt there’s a roster player coming back

[slimtj]

I agree but it’s taking so long to be announced which raises some spidey senses. I think it behooves them to get Tsyplakov off their cap.
Maybe not this necessarily, just in general

[slimtj]

I’ve seen this trade alot from redwing fans

Panarin
With retention

For Max Plante, 1st and 2nd. Idk much about Plante but his numbers in college are very good. Smallish center but so is Brayden Point

[nyrangers9479]

Ya I don’t get what the hold up is if it’s just Soucy.

[nyrangers9479]

Good numbers on Plante, I wouldn’t be upset with it, but would prefer Kasper Danielson Nygard etc

[slimtj]

I think it’s best to trade Panarin to a team he’ll extend with to maximize the return. I just wish it would happen like yesterday because with our luck he will get hurt before they get a chance to trade him. That would be a kick in the nads of epic proportions

[slimtj]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6997376/2026/01/26/new-york-rangers-trade-retool-targets/

Idk if anyone can read this, but it lays out some players to go after.

Dorofeyev is my #1. It’s a retool not a rebuild so he would make sense. That kid can shoot the puck

Also, going after one year left guys is a great strategy, and then flip them at the TDL next year. Ie- Mangipane and Colton would be perfect for that. Kind of like Soucy, now, when they got him last year. That’s how you amass draft picks

[slimtj]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6997376/2026/01/26/new-york-rangers-trade-retool-targets/

Idk if anyone can read this, but it lays out some players to go after.

Dorofeyev is my #1. It’s a retool not a rebuild so he would make sense. That kid can shoot the puck

Also, going after one year left guys is a great strategy, and then flip them at the TDL next year. Ie- Mangipane and Colton would be perfect for that. Kind of like Soucy, now, when they got him last year. That’s how you amass draft picks. Thats why all this cap space is a good thing

[nyrangers9479]

What did Vince say about Drury in the NYT article? I don’t have NYT so can’t read it

[slimtj]

All the sudden I can’t read it now. But it didn’t really talk about what they would trade or for what, more or less just general targets to go after with those trades.

IMO once they trade Panarin they will immediately hone in on players to replace him for next season. Dorofeyev is a possibility because Vegas cap can’t afford him. The summer will be pretty crazy I have a feeling

[nyrangers9479]

Tsyplokov playing for Isles tonight

[slimtj]

Perrault is definitely something to be excited about.

[picklerick]

Soucy for a 3rd

[nyrangers9479]

Let the sell off begin

[slimtj]

Weird it took all day for this to be official.

I saw someone going gaga over Chase Reid. And Tynan Lawrence. So it appears the top 5 will be a pretty good chance wed get a real promising player. Wins are the enemy tho, never thought I’d say that

[nyrangers9479]

I’d love to get a top 3 pick and that kid Belchetz if we’re able to package a couple 1sts and move up to that 10/11 spot.

[Brukie]

Anyone interested in taking a flyer on Shane Wright? Id go for it! Cant see the Rangers developing him, they havent been able to develop anyone in a decade. What would the price be?

[slimtj]

If by the end of this TDL he has

2 firsts this year draft
2 firsts next year draft
2 firsts in the ‘28 draft

It would be a homerun. Requires trading Trocheck which I’m not sure is a guarantee. Panarin definitely gets one of those tho.

Im not sure what is considered the best draft where teams insist on keeping that year

[aecliptic]

slimtj wrote:

If by the end of this TDL he has

2 firsts this year draft
2 firsts next year draft
2 firsts in the ‘28 draft

It would be a homerun. Requires trading Trocheck which I’m not sure is a guarantee. Panarin definitely gets one of those tho.

Im not sure what is considered the best draft where teams insist on keeping that year

Its this one, 2026. Its been talked about for a couple years now as expected to be very deep.

[aecliptic]

Brukie wrote:

Anyone interested in taking a flyer on Shane Wright? Id go for it! Cant see the Rangers developing him, they havent been able to develop anyone in a decade. What would the price be?

We discussed a 1 for 1, LAF for Wright deal, and it got a unanamous yes from everyone. Doesnt happen often.

[slimtj]

Ok that’s good then if that happen because they already have the extra first this season. Now we got a 3rd back for Soucy. Isles fans seems pissed about it

I feel like he will do the right thing here, but as you guys have said can they develop these kids/picks correctly. We won’t know for awhile obviously which is why I keep saying he isn’t getting fired anytime soon. Or else it would’ve happen already

[Brukie]

slimtj wrote:

If by the end of this TDL he has

2 firsts this year draft
2 firsts next year draft
2 firsts in the ‘28 draft

It would be a homerun. Requires trading Trocheck which I’m not sure is a guarantee. Panarin definitely gets one of those tho.

Im not sure what is considered the best draft where teams insist on keeping that year

And it will take 3-4 years for these picks to develop.

[Brukie]

aecliptic wrote:

Brukie wrote:

Anyone interested in taking a flyer on Shane Wright? Id go for it! Cant see the Rangers developing him, they havent been able to develop anyone in a decade. What would the price be?

We discussed a 1 for 1, LAF for Wright deal, and it got a unanamous yes from everyone. Doesnt happen often.

I dont think the Kraken will want to pay that contract on Laffy for the next 7 years though. Id bet there would be some money needed to be retained .

[slimtj]

NYRguy will love this

Puck pedia kings fan willing to do

-Greentree
-Laferriere
-26’first

For Panarin 50%

That might get you on the I love Drury train 😂

[slimtj]

That trade/rumor was squashed. No one wants Laf. They need to permanently move him to LW and try that. His natural side and has yet to play there at all really. This probably ruined him more than anything. This was the problem having Kreider and Panarin for so long because he had play RW

• This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by slimtj.

[nyrangers9479]

I would do that Kings deal.

I think the best case for Laf is to keep him and hope he figures it out. His value is too low for the risk/reward.

[nyrangers9479]

Greentree and Belchetz are teammates 👀

[picklerick]

aecliptic wrote:

Brukie wrote:

Anyone interested in taking a flyer on Shane Wright? Id go for it! Cant see the Rangers developing him, they havent been able to develop anyone in a decade. What would the price be?

We discussed a 1 for 1, LAF for Wright deal, and it got a unanamous yes from everyone. Doesnt happen often.

I’ve been seeing that Seattle is looking to use Wright in a trade for a legitimate top 6f in their mid-late 20s like Robert Thomas or Jordan Kyrou from STL. They’re trying to take the next step. So that almost certainly rules out Laf. Whether Seattle can get that with Wright is another story

[nyrangers9479]

So a GM is saying they want a top talent for a young prospect? Not letting the entire league know he wants that player gone at all costs and then become baffled when no one offers anything of value? Interesting concept.

[Brukie]

nyrangers9479 wrote:

So a GM is saying they want a top talent for a young prospect? Not letting the entire league know he wants that player gone at all costs and then become baffled when no one offers anything of value? Interesting concept.

Arent you suppose to just say please someone just take him??

[Brukie]

Rangers have 16 games in March….Brutal

[slimtj]

Belchetz sounds like some sort of ass condition

[slimtj]

I really like this Dallas prospect Hemming. He was the pick before EJ Emery

[nyrangers9479]

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