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    • #63850
      airjan23
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      Just before the 3 p.m. roster freeze deadline, the New York Rangers dealt Artemi Panarin to the LA Kings.

      [See the full post at: Rangers: Panarin Trade Analysis]

    • #63851
      nyrangers9479
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      What did drury say last night regarding his issues?

    • #63852
      Brukie
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      That he hates Tj’s lipstick color.

    • #63853
      Brukie
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      The rangers really need to jettison Miller and Mika and start over. There is no way to replace Panarins in season production. Not sure why they feel the need to trade Braden Schneider. He is still young and has been playing in hell. Of course Drury is an idiot so Im sure we will get back a 5th rounder for him.

    • #63855
      Bean Dip
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      What Drury does with the vacated cap is also a factor. I want JRob. JRob, Greentree, cond 3rd for Panarin (and whatever is needed to acquire Robertson) is easier to digest.

    • #63860
      nyrangers9479
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      I agree trading Schneider is a mistake.

    • #63863
      picklerick
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      Can anyone tell me what they see in Schneider? If a team is willing to overpay for him you take it

    • #63864
      picklerick
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      Playing the kids is scratching Othmann and morrow for a waiver claim and Anton blidh

    • #63866
      aecliptic
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      Posted this in the other thread…

      Lets revisit 2 trades…

      Brock Nelson, locked up NTC (no team submission), netted the Isles Calum Ritchie, Oliver Kylington, a conditional 1st and a conditional 3rd.
      Claude Giroux, NMC (Florida was his choice and it wasnt a secret) the Flyers got Owen Tippett, a 1st and a 3rd. Heck, the Panthers didnt even intend on resigning Giroux, they gave that up for a straight up rental.

      Panarin is essentially the same age as those 2 when the trades occurred, and theres no debate that hes the better player between the 2.

      So to not get, at the very least, a conditional 1st of some sort (or a conditional 2nd that could be a 1st) and a 3rd as the kicker to Greentree is not good.

      What Drury should do with the vacated cap… assuming Trocheck, Schneider, Raddysh, Carrick are moved… is he should monetize it by taking other teams bad contracts, for example, get MTL to pay a 2nd to take on Laine. Get EDM to give us something to take on Mangiapane. Maybe Tampa wants to unload Bjorkstrand. This is where we should be.

    • #63867
      aecliptic
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      Can anyone tell me what they see in Schneider? If a team is willing to overpay for him you take it

      Im with you here, key word is overpay. For example, trading Schneider to the Sharks for EDM’s 1st round pick. Other options being if the Sharks want to send Musty or Bystedt for Schneider, I think those are solid options too.

    • #63869
      tbnyr94
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      It will be 5 years before we sniff the playoffs again.. and if the GM in this case stands for (General Mismanager) is still here it could be much longer!
      You think Yzerman trades a stud winger for a prospect and a 3rd conditional..No way! Imagine in a few years the Bruins trading Pastrnak away for this return even if he also has a NMC. Bruin fans would be out of their mind!
      Again Drury created this mess by A – telling the league he wasn’t going to resign him B- Benching the player C just causing all this chaos that never needed to be. He could have waited to the real deadline not said anything try to smooth over the relationship with the players and not created this unnecessary situation.

    • #63870
      aecliptic
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      It will be 5 years before we sniff the playoffs again.. and if the GM in this case stands for (General Mismanager) is still here it could be much longer!
      You think Yzerman trades a stud winger for a prospect and a 3rd conditional..No way! Imagine in a few years the Bruins trading Pastrnak away for this return even if he also has a NMC. Bruin fans would be out of their mind!
      Again Drury created this mess by A – telling the league he wasn’t going to resign him B- Benching the player C just causing all this chaos that never needed to be. He could have waited to the real deadline not said anything try to smooth over the relationship with the players and not created this unnecessary situation.

      I dont mind if we dont sniff the playoffs for 5 years as long as this is done correctly.

    • #63871
      tbnyr94
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      But do you trust Rangers management to do the right thing? They haven’t exactly instilled confidence in the fan base.

    • #63876
      aecliptic
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      But do you trust Rangers management to do the right thing? They haven’t exactly instilled confidence in the fan base.

      Absolutely not. However as I said in the previous thread… even if they dont fire Drury, as long as they fire Ortmeyer and Glass Ill feel like management recognizes the egregious issues that exist in player development on this team.

    • #63891
      tbnyr94
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      Ortmeyer , Tanner Glass..talk about world class skill. What could go wrong with them evaluating talent. I think that’s why fans don’t trust the organization, it’s like how many awful moves that completely backfire do you get? There is no accountability within the organization. Nobody loses their job ..hell Lafreniere gives the puck away every game softly skates back into the zone doesn’t pick up his guy and Boom it’s in the back of the net. What happens? NOTHiNG! Doesn’t miss a shift doesn’t get benched. It’s the Ranger way..

    • #63895
      aecliptic
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      Ortmeyer , Tanner Glass..talk about world class skill. What could go wrong with them evaluating talent. I think that’s why fans don’t trust the organization, it’s like how many awful moves that completely backfire do you get? There is no accountability within the organization. Nobody loses their job ..hell Lafreniere gives the puck away every game softly skates back into the zone doesn’t pick up his guy and Boom it’s in the back of the net. What happens? NOTHiNG! Doesn’t miss a shift doesn’t get benched. It’s the Ranger way..

      Actually one could argue that people do lose their job…

      Coaches:
      Quinn, fired. Gallant, fired. Laviolette, fired. Sullivan,…

      Management:
      Gorton, Fired. Davidson, fired.

      Leadership:
      Trouba, traded. Kreider, traded. Goodrow, traded. Panarin, traded.

      However…
      Ortmeyer, Director of Player Development since 2017
      Glass, Asst Director of Player Development since 2019

    • #63902
      picklerick
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      Fuck man. I just lost a whole damn long post I was about to send that I typed painstakingly on my phone. Goodbye

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