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Just before the 3 p.m. roster freeze deadline, the New York Rangers dealt Artemi Panarin to the LA Kings.
[See the full post at: Rangers: Panarin Trade Analysis]
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The rangers really need to jettison Miller and Mika and start over. There is no way to replace Panarins in season production. Not sure why they feel the need to trade Braden Schneider. He is still young and has been playing in hell. Of course Drury is an idiot so Im sure we will get back a 5th rounder for him.
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Posted this in the other thread…
Lets revisit 2 trades…
Brock Nelson, locked up NTC (no team submission), netted the Isles Calum Ritchie, Oliver Kylington, a conditional 1st and a conditional 3rd.
Claude Giroux, NMC (Florida was his choice and it wasnt a secret) the Flyers got Owen Tippett, a 1st and a 3rd. Heck, the Panthers didnt even intend on resigning Giroux, they gave that up for a straight up rental.Panarin is essentially the same age as those 2 when the trades occurred, and theres no debate that hes the better player between the 2.
So to not get, at the very least, a conditional 1st of some sort (or a conditional 2nd that could be a 1st) and a 3rd as the kicker to Greentree is not good.
What Drury should do with the vacated cap… assuming Trocheck, Schneider, Raddysh, Carrick are moved… is he should monetize it by taking other teams bad contracts, for example, get MTL to pay a 2nd to take on Laine. Get EDM to give us something to take on Mangiapane. Maybe Tampa wants to unload Bjorkstrand. This is where we should be.
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Can anyone tell me what they see in Schneider? If a team is willing to overpay for him you take it
Im with you here, key word is overpay. For example, trading Schneider to the Sharks for EDM’s 1st round pick. Other options being if the Sharks want to send Musty or Bystedt for Schneider, I think those are solid options too.
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It will be 5 years before we sniff the playoffs again.. and if the GM in this case stands for (General Mismanager) is still here it could be much longer!
You think Yzerman trades a stud winger for a prospect and a 3rd conditional..No way! Imagine in a few years the Bruins trading Pastrnak away for this return even if he also has a NMC. Bruin fans would be out of their mind!
Again Drury created this mess by A – telling the league he wasn’t going to resign him B- Benching the player C just causing all this chaos that never needed to be. He could have waited to the real deadline not said anything try to smooth over the relationship with the players and not created this unnecessary situation. -
It will be 5 years before we sniff the playoffs again.. and if the GM in this case stands for (General Mismanager) is still here it could be much longer!
You think Yzerman trades a stud winger for a prospect and a 3rd conditional..No way! Imagine in a few years the Bruins trading Pastrnak away for this return even if he also has a NMC. Bruin fans would be out of their mind!
Again Drury created this mess by A – telling the league he wasn’t going to resign him B- Benching the player C just causing all this chaos that never needed to be. He could have waited to the real deadline not said anything try to smooth over the relationship with the players and not created this unnecessary situation.I dont mind if we dont sniff the playoffs for 5 years as long as this is done correctly.
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But do you trust Rangers management to do the right thing? They haven’t exactly instilled confidence in the fan base.
Absolutely not. However as I said in the previous thread… even if they dont fire Drury, as long as they fire Ortmeyer and Glass Ill feel like management recognizes the egregious issues that exist in player development on this team.
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Ortmeyer , Tanner Glass..talk about world class skill. What could go wrong with them evaluating talent. I think that’s why fans don’t trust the organization, it’s like how many awful moves that completely backfire do you get? There is no accountability within the organization. Nobody loses their job ..hell Lafreniere gives the puck away every game softly skates back into the zone doesn’t pick up his guy and Boom it’s in the back of the net. What happens? NOTHiNG! Doesn’t miss a shift doesn’t get benched. It’s the Ranger way..
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Ortmeyer , Tanner Glass..talk about world class skill. What could go wrong with them evaluating talent. I think that’s why fans don’t trust the organization, it’s like how many awful moves that completely backfire do you get? There is no accountability within the organization. Nobody loses their job ..hell Lafreniere gives the puck away every game softly skates back into the zone doesn’t pick up his guy and Boom it’s in the back of the net. What happens? NOTHiNG! Doesn’t miss a shift doesn’t get benched. It’s the Ranger way..
Actually one could argue that people do lose their job…
Coaches:
Quinn, fired. Gallant, fired. Laviolette, fired. Sullivan,…Management:
Gorton, Fired. Davidson, fired.Leadership:
Trouba, traded. Kreider, traded. Goodrow, traded. Panarin, traded.However…
Ortmeyer, Director of Player Development since 2017
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I was talking more of this current iteration of the team. But yeah I get it. Drury does seem to fire a lot of people yet keep his job.
Also interesting is the fact that the supposed mutiny on Drury last year started with Panarin ..involving Trouba, Kreider. Notice who are all gone. Guess we should brush up more on the amateurs and draft at least the next 3 years anyway. There’s no easy retool. Not with this group.It was funny when the trade came through I kept refreshing the page to see what other pieces we got. I’m like must be our WI-FI conking out because I only see Greentree and a 3rd.
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I was talking more of this current iteration of the team. But yeah I get it. Drury does seem to fire a lot of people yet keep his job.
Also interesting is the fact that the supposed mutiny on Drury last year started with Panarin ..involving Trouba, Kreider. Notice who are all gone. Guess we should brush up more on the amateurs and draft at least the next 3 years anyway. There’s no easy retool. Not with this group.It was funny when the trade came through I kept refreshing the page to see what other pieces we got. I’m like must be our WI-FI conking out because I only see Greentree and a 3rd.
I kept thinking the same thing about the trade… Im sitting here posting… just wait Im sure this is just the early call on the trade, Im sure more is coming… nope.
Well, one more year after this, Miller has a 15 team no-trade and we can get out from that. Fox becomes a 15 team no-trade the same year.
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Unfortunately this is how I expect the games to go in the near future.
Without Panarin driving the play up the ice and the non existent transition game from our very slow and average D. Expect low scoring games. Hell they were putrid with him somehow.
Btw interesting Panarin now saying the Rangers never really offered him a new contract upon him speaking in LA. Belief is he wanted Kings or even go back to Russia. Not sure I believe that. -
Unfortunately this is how I expect the games to go in the near future.
Without Panarin driving the play up the ice and the non existent transition game from our very slow and average D. Expect low scoring games. Hell they were putrid with him somehow.
Btw interesting Panarin now saying the Rangers never really offered him a new contract upon him speaking in LA. Belief is he wanted Kings or even go back to Russia. Not sure I believe that.I dont believe anything anyone is saying when it comes to this trade. There was absolutely NO WAY Panarin was going back to Russia after he had to smuggle his family out of the country because of his political affiliations.
Just gonna deal with it and hope it gets better from here on.
This is a full blown tank, and honestly I hope we get the 2nd overall pick. This way its not on our GM to make the choice between McKenna and Stenberg.
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Think it’s a given will be top 5. If it wasn’t for Quick it would be 5-0 now.At least they are playing hard against a top team in East.
Please get a haul for Trocheck. But I’m not holding my breath. Need to have at least 3 #1 and 2 top prospects before deadline. Already have the 2 #1 and one prospect. Not asking for much… -
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Think it’s a given will be top 5. If it wasn’t for Quick it would be 5-0 now.At least they are playing hard against a top team in East.
Please get a haul for Trocheck. But I’m not holding my breath. Need to have at least 3 #1 and 2 top prospects before deadline. Already have the 2 #1 and one prospect. Not asking for much…Well, we got Greentree, hes a high end prospect. If we can get Stramel from Wild, hes a solid C prospect with potential to be a solid 2C… and if we can get McKenna or Stenberg in the draft… would be a solid start here. If Schneider gets moved, I have a hunch someone will overpay for him. Throw in Gabe and Laba. We dont have much on D though.
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Ah Nemeth..the gift that keeps on giving. God Drury is the worst..
If you listen to JT after the game ..( my word is he disinterested. he has no answers for why this team is not playing well.. he’s looking forward to the Olympics after his “ I don’t know yeah I literally dont know” comments
on the teams performance. (Oh captain my captain) .. if that’s not inspirational.
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Ah Nemeth..the gift that keeps on giving. God Drury is the worst..
If you listen to JT after the game ..( my word is he disinterested. he has no answers for why this team is not playing well.. he’s looking forward to the Olympics after his “ I don’t know yeah I literally dont know” comments
on the teams performance. (Oh captain my captain) .. if that’s not inspirational.
Between Drury and JT man I’ve never been more confident that we are screwed for the foreseeable future.Trading for JTs contract and subsequently making him captain might be the worst thing this franchise as ever done – and there’s a lot to choose from. Guy totally screamed captain material with his post game interviews.
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Wow, this team will not generate anything, this will be a really terrible stretch of years. Miller is on the wrong side of 30 and cant do it by himself. We will see what Mika can do now without Panarin. This team will be a joke. Sully brings nothing as I expected.
Its ok, below stupid says Drury is a genius!!
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Wow, this team will not generate anything, this will be a really terrible stretch of years. Miller is on the wrong side of 30 and cant do it by himself. We will see what Mika can do now without Panarin. This team will be a joke. Sully brings nothing as I expected.
Its ok, below stupid says Drury is a genius!!
Were getting the tank we wanted, however… Miller, wow. Just gets worse and worse.
Just need to hope and pray we can get one of the top 2 picks. Need to hope and pray we get a massive haul for Trocheck.
We can hope for a miracle that Mika wants out of this and doesnt want to play the rest of his career on a tanking franchise. The way hes playing right now, people might be ringing his agent. Throw a little retention on that contract, could be a valuable asset. Let me live my pipedream.
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Anyone else in disbelief that clown is part of Team USA brain trust as assistant GM?
Almost feel a bit dirty rooting for USA with Quinn, Sully, ( he has already checked out) and Mr Incompetent leading the charge.If your getting rid of Panarin and Tro .. what does it matter get rid of all of them. There is literally no skater that’s irreplaceable. Even though I like Cuylle and Laba.. Robertson has much improved too. Nobody is untouchable.
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Anyone else in disbelief that clown is part of Team USA brain trust as assistant GM?
Almost feel a bit dirty rooting for USA with Quinn, Sully, ( he has already checked out) and Mr Incompetent leading the charge.If your getting rid of Panarin and Tro .. what does it matter get rid of all of them. There is literally no skater that’s irreplaceable. Even though I like Cuylle and Laba.. Robertson has much improved too. Nobody is untouchable.
I was a huge Robertson fan when we got him, with hopes that he and Schneider were the future pair of our defense behind whoever Fox was paired with… which is now Gavrikov. In all honesty, our D, is not really that far off.
However the cumulative effect of poor management, poor coaching and poor leadership has really torn this team to shreds. Sure Fox and Shesty getting hurt is a big loss, however, personally I feel it was a blessing in disguise. I feel like if Fox and Shesty didnt get hurt, Drury would still be making moves to try to salvage the season and make the playoffs.
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I watched an interview with Rupper about Jason Robertson. He was talking about the Rangers trading for him. Rupper made a good point. JRob is a RFA now and then a UFA soon, why would he want to play for a coach and GM who didnt take him on Team USA for the Olympics? Yes he would have to report but not have to resign here. Interesting point.
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Yeah good point about JRob..although I believe Guerin has final say. Usually lots of cash tends to sway players. But I think there is too much stain on the last 2 years here. Players talk about that stuff all the time. Panarin chose LA because of what Gavrikov told him. Could you imagine what players are thinking when they see Drury on Team USA? Oh isn’t he the GM of the one of the most disappointing teams in the league and your team no longer competes especially at home? Having Sully there isn’t a good look either and forget Quinn 🙂 Just remember Drury drove the Hartford Wolf Pack into the abyss for 4 years before coming here.
I still can’t fathom Drury not asking for at least a second rd pick since we don’t have one for 2 years! You think Kings would have hung up the phone being on the cusp of acquiring the Rangers leading scorer last 7 seasons! Just seems like that’s something he should have inquired about. ( spoiler alert Kings are average even with Bread and don’t see them winning a round so forget about better compensation from that deal) -
I watched an interview with Rupper about Jason Robertson. He was talking about the Rangers trading for him. Rupper made a good point. JRob is a RFA now and then a UFA soon, why would he want to play for a coach and GM who didnt take him on Team USA for the Olympics? Yes he would have to report but not have to resign here. Interesting point.
Going after Robo would be a huge mistake, and it would be a huge mistake on Robo’s part to come here. He would be wasting his prime years here.
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Yeah good point about JRob..although I believe Guerin has final say. Usually lots of cash tends to sway players. But I think there is too much stain on the last 2 years here. Players talk about that stuff all the time. Panarin chose LA because of what Gavrikov told him. Could you imagine what players are thinking when they see Drury on Team USA? Oh isn’t he the GM of the one of the most disappointing teams in the league and your team no longer competes especially at home? Having Sully there isn’t a good look either and forget Quinn 🙂 Just remember Drury drove the Hartford Wolf Pack into the abyss for 4 years before coming here.
I still can’t fathom Drury not asking for at least a second rd pick since we don’t have one for 2 years! You think Kings would have hung up the phone being on the cusp of acquiring the Rangers leading scorer last 7 seasons! Just seems like that’s something he should have inquired about. ( spoiler alert Kings are average even with Bread and don’t see them winning a round so forget about better compensation from that deal)But then why would Gavrikov sign here? That doesnt make sense.
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https://x.com/eklund/status/2020185682883322255?s=46&t=uyemCTfXPLjxebCnYBfx6Q
EK using AI images of players that he can just get real pictures of. Look at laf LOL
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Rangers should be in on all trash contract players other teams are trying to free themselves of.
As far as LAF goes… unless someone is willing to overpay, thinks the Rangers are holding him back and believes he can be more than a 50pt player, I would be in no rush to move him yet. He may not be the generational 1st overall pick that people thought he could be, however… hes still a middle 6 mainstay, who plays 80 games a year, who can contribute and who can play with a physical edge.
Look at the haul Kraken got for Bjorkstand and Gourde, two 1sts and a 2nd. Im not saying were gonna get some crazy haul like that, but to say that LAF isnt worth a late 1st I think is a bit of a stretch. The issue will always be that he went 1st overall. If LAF was drafted anywhere after the 5th pick, no one would say a thing.
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No lol. Would just be another black eye for drury.
That being said, he is useless as a Captain. What a terrible situation.
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Here is a good example of how stupid the Drury is a genius comment is.
Since taking over before the 2021 draft, Drury has brought in John Lilley as director of player personnel and amateur scouting while replacing multiple scouts and coaches, but he’s kept Jed Ortmeyer as director of player development and Tanner Glass as Ortmeyer’s top assistant.
The results haven’t improved. Of 31 picks made across five drafts with Drury at the helm, no selection has played more games (48) or produced more points (14) than 2022 fourth-round center Noah Laba.
What a winner!!!
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Here is a good example of how stupid the Drury is a genius comment is.
Since taking over before the 2021 draft, Drury has brought in John Lilley as director of player personnel and amateur scouting while replacing multiple scouts and coaches, but he’s kept Jed Ortmeyer as director of player development and Tanner Glass as Ortmeyer’s top assistant.
The results haven’t improved. Of 31 picks made across five drafts with Drury at the helm, no selection has played more games (48) or produced more points (14) than 2022 fourth-round center Noah Laba.
What a winner!!!
You know Im driving that Ortmeyer / Glass bus. Ive said it before, if they fired Drury, Id be all over trying to hire Gregory Campbell (assistant GM with Panthers) to be GM here.
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What’s there to talk about, it’s the Olympic break. Not much going on. Anyone think anyone has a chance to beat Canada?
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On paper, Canada has the best team, incredible talent. Its up to team USA to make up goals because they left the better goal scores at home in favor of JT Miller and Trocheck. I love Trocheck but in this tournament, I want Caufield or JRob.
I feel like Troch is a player you want for so many situations. But, Miller over Robertson is nuts.
As for not being around, on top of being tired of the endless frustration from our team and the added frustration of this website, I just had my shoulder surgery yesterday. So, good chance I’ll be around more in the near future.
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On paper, Canada has the best team, incredible talent. Its up to team USA to make up goals because they left the better goal scores at home in favor of JT Miller and Trocheck. I love Trocheck but in this tournament, I want Caufield or JRob.
I feel like Troch is a player you want for so many situations. But, Miller over Robertson is nuts.
As for not being around, on top of being tired of the endless frustration from our team and the added frustration of this website, I just had my shoulder surgery yesterday. So, good chance I’ll be around more in the near future.
Hoping for a quick recovery Tony
Yeah this site is frustrating but the Buzz is a spam center now. No one is ever on there.
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Did anyone read the Hockey News article about how the Rangers mistreat their prospects? The organization basically puts a muzzle on prospects and is controlling of their players. In fact, Ken Campbell lead writer for THN had contacted OHL’s Windsor Spit Fires about the deal for Liam Greentree after the trade and appparently the Rangers have a gag order and forbid them from talking to the kid about the Panarin trade? Campbell said they are the only organization in the NHL that does this and control their prospects to a detriment.
Campbell said “ No wonder they are 3rd to last place in the league”.The fact that Robertson and Caulfield are not on the team for the sullen JT Miller is a testament how the US mismanagement of their roster continues.
Olympic Roster fodder:Jason Robertson 32g 66 points plus/minus 20
Cole Caulfield 32g 57 points plus minus 19
JT Miller 14g 37 points plus minus -22
Which one would u have selected? LOL
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Did anyone read the Hockey News article about how the Rangers mistreat their prospects? The organization basically puts a muzzle on prospects and is controlling of their players. In fact, Ken Campbell lead writer for THN had contacted OHL’s Windsor Spit Fires about the deal for Liam Greentree after the trade and appparently the Rangers have a gag order and forbid them from talking to the kid about the Panarin trade? Campbell said they are the only organization in the NHL that does this and control their prospects to a detriment.
Campbell said “ No wonder they are 3rd to last place in the league”.This doesnt surprise me one bit with how our prospects have looked.
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Not sure..but the tone of the article seems like it’s been this way for many years.
Just another example where we think we are the smartest team in the room. But I see where Panarin incident certainly didn’t help matters.On a side note.. It’s nice watching some fun competitive hockey. So far Slovakia is going toe to toe with Finland. 1-1 heading to 3rd.
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It’s even more frustrating that the Clown GM didn’t get a first rdr. Kings arent exactly a lock to make the playoffs. ( 3 pts out of Wildcard) Fiala is a huge loss. He drives to the net which Kempe and Panarin are more perimeter although Kempe is really solid everywhere. So yeah we had an opportunity but our General Mismanager frittered it away. I’m so sick of the way this organization does things. Haven’t seen an article yet saying the Panarin deal was good for the Rangers. But hey Panarin had him over a barrel. That Drury gave him access to.
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Hello
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Hi
Hey Rick, Im here, I was on Jans Olympic thread.
Place is a ghost town
doesn’t help none of those blogs were pushed to the forums. if the blog isn’t on the forum i feel no one comments/it’s much harder to get a thread going. I had no idea he was publishing olympic blogs because i just come straight to the rangers forums lol
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Did anyone see the Fox interview? I got a little sense there maybe a strained relationship here with the team now. Maybe Im reading a little too much into it.
No he seems unhappy.
Miller needs to sit for the season and heal/contemplate whether or not he wants to be a captain
The org is a joke
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Apparently I was logged out at some point, so anytime I came to check in no new blogs were posted so I didn’t bother to try and find which blog everyone was taking in. I logged in today and now all the new blogs popped up. This site is terrible/very difficult to keep up conversation. I’m glad they boo’d Drury last night, too bad the weasel wasn’t on the ice so they could’ve boo’d him more.
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Did anyone see the Fox interview? I got a little sense there maybe a strained relationship here with the team now. Maybe Im reading a little too much into it.
No he seems unhappy.
Miller needs to sit for the season and heal/contemplate whether or not he wants to be a captain
The org is a joke
Doing a so called “Retool” with Miller, Mika and maybe even Igor isnt going to get us to the Cup. By the time the new prospects start to bloom, at least 2-3 years from now these guys will be in their mid 30’s and at the bottom end of their careers. Gotta try to convince them to waive and ship them out. Do a proper rebuild.
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Apparently I was logged out at some point, so anytime I came to check in no new blogs were posted so I didn’t bother to try and find which blog everyone was taking in. I logged in today and now all the new blogs popped up. This site is terrible/very difficult to keep up conversation. I’m glad they boo’d Drury last night, too bad the weasel wasn’t on the ice so they could’ve boo’d him more.
I have to agree, there are too many blogs forums or whatever you want to call them. The site needs to be able to have people only post on one active blog at a time. Like if Jan writes an article, only be able to post one that article. People dont need to have multiple placers to post. Its not that serious.
Im missing the old days of the Buzz!!!
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Apparently I was logged out at some point, so anytime I came to check in no new blogs were posted so I didn’t bother to try and find which blog everyone was taking in. I logged in today and now all the new blogs popped up. This site is terrible/very difficult to keep up conversation. I’m glad they boo’d Drury last night, too bad the weasel wasn’t on the ice so they could’ve boo’d him more.
I have to agree, there are too many blogs forums or whatever you want to call them. The site needs to be able to have people only post on one active blog at a time. Like if Jan writes an article, only be able to post one that article. People dont need to have multiple placers to post. Its not that serious.
Im missing the old days of the Buzz!!!
this site is so jacked.
forums: this is the newest blog in here.
writers page > click on Jan: newest blog is an olympic one.
home page of this entire site: newest jan blog is about duguay which is newer than the olympic one above.what is the deal here lol.
looks like we picked up someone off waivers and sent othmann down. sigh.
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Looking like Othman’s time here is limited. Another first round pick we busted on now.
Lias Kravtsov Kakko Laf Othmann.
7, 9, 2, 1, 16.
Busted on every single one. It’s not the players, it’s the organization.
Ive been pressing the issues with development for a couple years. The team cannot move forward with Ortmeyer and Glass running player development.
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Jan, the “newest” forum is almost a month old. The site constantly logs you out, difficult to keep conversations because you never know which is the latest forum (it doesn’t even go to the top of the forums you have to search for it), every time I submit a post I have to copy it because after submitting the first time 10/10 it “loses connection to the internet” and I have to go back and resubmit. This whole forum vs blog thing is terrible especially when not all blogs get a forum. It might be time to consider a move back to the buzz as much as I hate to say that.
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That’s not goalie interference…….
Agreed on both things, the Buzz and the interference call
If Tj was here he would say they are on the way back.
This team is just miserable. LOL
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Epic performance tonight.. Was I the only one watching that saw Lafreniere hit Merzlikins in the head on the disallowed goal?
Dave Maloney still is talking about the skate interfering. The fact that Albert and Dave went on for about 15 minutes about it not being goalie interference lol.
Drury should never be allowed to step foot in the Garden again. ( Taking a team that was a few bounces away from the SCF just 2 years ago and turning it into this mess..) I will say it again they won’t make playoffs for 5-8 years on the conservative side. -
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Epic performance tonight.. Was I the only one watching that saw Lafreniere hit Merzlikins in the head on the disallowed goal?
Dave Maloney still is talking about the skate interfering. The fact that Albert and Dave went on for about 15 minutes about it not being goalie interference lol.
Drury should never be allowed to step foot in the Garden again. ( Taking a team that was a few bounces away from the SCF just 2 years ago and turning it into this mess..) I will say it again they won’t make playoffs for 5-8 years on the conservative side.Yeah Laffy hit him in the head and Dave was going on about the skate. Im shaking my head like, what dont you see??
The playoff drought will be a while for sure, at least 3-5. Miller isnt a leader, now he blamed the fans for booing!!! Mika resurgence is useless but only for his trade value. Its going to take time unless we can trade Miller, Mika and Fox. Fox because why keep him around for a few years if we arent contending?
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Sullivan was the wrong coach also. This team is terrible, unfortunately Drury has traded Trouba Kreider Panarin for peanuts. That will hurt in the long term on this “retool”. He’s a clown
Drury is the worst GM in any sport. Id love to play him in cards, guy just announces his hand. We traded away all of our top players, Borgen is whats left. Useless
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Don’t forget the great Vaakaneien.
How did I forget him??? LOL
This is Tj’s genius at work!!!
I told him that would age badly.
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Don’t forget Vakainenen and Parsinnen! ( Who Drury had to have) reports were Drury had been trying to get both of these guys for a while now!
Again Drury thinking he’s the smartest guy in the room.
Now it appears he’s overplayed his hand for Trocheck. ( we will see)
Anyone with his track record under any other owner would have been shown the door..But not us!
I have never seen a GM who has NEVER made a trade where we could actually say the Rangers did a great job there!
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And there ya go! McCarron to Wild takes Trocheck out of the equation.
Drury overplayed his hand. Now it’s basically Carolina or Detroit..possibly Pittsburgh.
Was hoping for Yurov and a 1st but that’s over now.
Also JT Miller on IR.
Brisson and Morrow sent down
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And there ya go! McCarron to Wild takes Trocheck out of the equation.
Drury overplayed his hand. Now it’s basically Carolina or Detroit..possibly Pittsburgh.
Was hoping for Yurov and a 1st but that’s over now.
Also JT Miller on IR.
Brisson and Morrow sent down
Up is Chmelar and old friend just mentioned him in my last post.. Parssinen.How does 4th line McCarron take Trocheck out? This doesnt really do anything for them and their lack of top line center play. Wild next 3 games are against Bolts, Knights and Avs. They’ve already lost 2 straight, they may lose the next 3. Trading for Hughes was an all in move, they dont look like a cup team. They need to win if they plan on keeping Hughes. Theyre gonna end up playing the Stars or Avs in the first round, theyre not beating either as is. I think the McCarron move could be a set up for something larger, maybe Thomas? I dont think they trade Yurov for Trocheck, but they would for Thomas.
JT’s vagina must be sore again.
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Does anyone elses post not get posted? After I said the other day I wasnt having the same problems as others, the last 2 days Ive had many problems.
Its happened to me a bunch of times, and when you try to post it again, it says its a duplicate post even though it never did.
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The wild have nothing to offer. No 1st this year and no 2nd for the next 3 years. Yurov doesn’t move the needle enough for me. I want a trade with DET TB or BOS.
I dont think Wild want to trade Yurov anyway. Stramel is risky like Greentree is for us prospect wise because you find yourself putting a lot of faith in potential.
As far as Tampa goes, O’Reilly is possibly the better prospect, but they dont have a 1st until 2028.
Boston is interesting because they have 2 1sts this year, their own and Toronto’s, if theyre willing to part with a pick that definitely swings the needle. As far as prospects, Lohrei would be great, Poitras and Lysell are no better than all the other guys who are kind of mid.
Detroit, Im not as high on Kasper as everyone else (same with MBN) and I dont see Yzerman trading Danielson for Trocheck.
Ill mention them because theyre in play, but unless Carolina is sending Nikishin in a package, I dont want anything else they got (Nadeau, etc…). I just feel like if there was any chance of Canes trading Nikishin, it would have been done in the Miller trade.
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Regarding the Trocheck trade, we HAVE to hit a home run. We also don’t have to trade him if the return isn’t there. No need to make a trade just to make a trade. Let’s see what the moron does
Yea I wrote that in PuckGM just now.
“Unless Detroit is sending us Danielson or Boston is sending us Lohrei and Poitras (or maybe Carolina is sending Nikishin), I personally have fallen out of love for trading Trocheck also. His value wont drop.
With Thomas, Kadri, ROR and Schenn out there… its tough to say if he should slow play his hand. But making a deal for the sake of making a deal would be an egregious mistake.”
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Regarding the Trocheck trade, we HAVE to hit a home run. We also don’t have to trade him if the return isn’t there. No need to make a trade just to make a trade. Let’s see what the moron does
Yea I wrote that in PuckGM just now.
“Unless Detroit is sending us Danielson or Boston is sending us Lohrei and Poitras (or maybe Carolina is sending Nikishin), I personally have fallen out of love for trading Trocheck also. His value wont drop.
With Thomas, Kadri, ROR and Schenn out there… its tough to say if he should slow play his hand. But making a deal for the sake of making a deal would be an egregious mistake.”
Im thinking the other GM’s know Drury now and will just low ball him. They know he needs to make moves so why would they overpay? Drury painted himself into a corner.
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Well, is that really a fact. Lets look at the 2 trades he made so far.
— KAndre – a 1st, a 2nd and Morrow. Did we get low balled or did we do well here? I think we all were surprised with the pull so Im gonna say he did well.
— Panarin – Greentree, 3rd and 4th. Unfortunately Panarin had a NMC. Do I feel like we could have done better? Sure. However Panarin set the terms. If you wait until after the Olympics and the Kings find themselves losing more games, they may decide to not trade for him at all since theyre out of it. Now we lose him for nothing. So, not ideal, but could have been worse.Im gonna look at the KAndre trade and say thats more like what Drury is trying to pull off for Trocheck and Schneider.
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If Im Drury, before I consider trading Schneider, I dangle Scott Morrow out there to see what the market looks like for him. I dont think Morrow’s offense is good enough to make up for his deficiencies defensively to be a mainstay defenseman, but someone out there might believe they can make it work.
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Well, as much as we hate Drury, lets look at the amazing deadline Bowman and Oilers are having…
The Oilers have traded:
– a 2027 1st round pick (conditional), as a result of this trade, the 2026 1st round pick that the Sharks own is now completely unprotected
– a 2028 2nd round pick
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Regarding Panarin.. we all know he totally misread the room which Drury is apt to do. Like I mentioned prior yeah Panarin had the Rangers over a barrel with the NMC.. only wanting to go to LA etc. Didn’t stop the Flyers from receiving a first and 3rd and Owen Tippet for Giroux. He had the sane parameter in the deal only wanting to go Florida and was a UFA. That is what the return should have been. But then announcing to the league that Panarin is available and we are not resigning him took all the leverage away.
Drury sat Panarin which made the situation untenable. Having to get rid him for 10 cents on the dollar. Not having a second round pick and not demanding a second rounder in return from LA just shows how clueless this guy is with asset management.
As for The K’Andre deal..You’re getting a pick at the end of the first rd and Morrow really struggles in his own end as you mentioned ( He’s young so hopefully he will improve, time will tell)
Waiting for Rangers trades with this guy at the helm is torture.
Trocheck, Schneider , Carrick maybe JBrodz should definitely be dealt ..but it’s scary thinking of the return?
Btw non Ranger related ..How did the Pens get Girard and 2nd rounder for Brett Kulak? Seemed like that should have been an even up deal.
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Regarding Panarin.. we all know he totally misread the room which Drury is apt to do. Like I mentioned prior yeah Panarin had the Rangers over a barrel with the NMC.. only wanting to go to LA etc. Didn’t stop the Flyers from receiving a first and 3rd and Owen Tippet for Giroux. He had the sane parameter in the deal only wanting to go Florida and was a UFA. That is what the return should have been. But then announcing to the league that Panarin is available and we are not resigning him took all the leverage away.
Drury sat Panarin which made the situation untenable. Having to get rid him for 10 cents on the dollar. Not having a second round pick and not demanding a second rounder in return from LA just shows how clueless this guy is with asset management.
As for The K’Andre deal..You’re getting a pick at the end of the first rd and Morrow really struggles in his own end as you mentioned ( He’s young so hopefully he will improve, time will tell)
Waiting for Rangers trades with this guy at the helm is torture.
Trocheck, Schneider , Carrick maybe JBrodz should definitely be dealt ..but it’s scary thinking of the return?
Btw non Ranger related ..How did the Pens get Girard and 2nd rounder for Brett Kulak? Seemed like that should have been an even up deal.
See how it easy it is to get second rd picks? But Panarin couldn’t fetch one..lolIn regards to Giroux vs. Panarin… Ill use the Knights vs. Kraken analogy for this. Because it wasnt necessarily a common move, when Giroux got traded, I think the thought process initially was well we have to give proper value despite the clause, right? As was with the Knights, teams werent quite sure how to approach expansion and the Knights absolutely poached everyone and so when it was time for the Kraken, GMs were prepared and that didnt happen again. And so… when Panarin came around, GM didnt feel entitled to give any more than Greentree and a couple of mid-late picks. If Holland says “thats the offer, take it or leave it”, what are you gonna do? Threaten to not trade Panarin and let him walk for nothing? That would have made you a lot happier right? That Drury stood his ground..!? PS: Go watch highlights of Greentree from this season.
Does it matter that its a late 2026 1st round pick? These 2026 1st round picks are very valuable, plus we also got their 2026 2nd as well. With how badly teams are trying to acquire RHD, Id try to dangle Morrow and see if we could get another 2nd round pick for him.
But Ill be honest, we dont trade Trocheck, I wont be disappointed about it. I would rather keep him than trade him for the sake of trading him.
Schneider, with these RHD trades, could pull a 1st round pick. I doubt it. But I could see a 2nd, a 3rd and a prospect.
If McCarron can pull a 2nd round pick, theres absolutely no reason why Carrick shouldnt… and I said this before, everyone laughed, that ya’ll would be surprised what these bottom 6 glue guy centers can pull.
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Regarding Panarin.. we all know he totally misread the room which Drury is apt to do. Like I mentioned prior yeah Panarin had the Rangers over a barrel with the NMC.. only wanting to go to LA etc. Didn’t stop the Flyers from receiving a first and 3rd and Owen Tippet for Giroux. He had the sane parameter in the deal only wanting to go Florida and was a UFA. That is what the return should have been. But then announcing to the league that Panarin is available and we are not resigning him took all the leverage away.
Drury sat Panarin which made the situation untenable. Having to get rid him for 10 cents on the dollar. Not having a second round pick and not demanding a second rounder in return from LA just shows how clueless this guy is with asset management.
As for The K’Andre deal..You’re getting a pick at the end of the first rd and Morrow really struggles in his own end as you mentioned ( He’s young so hopefully he will improve, time will tell)
Waiting for Rangers trades with this guy at the helm is torture.
Trocheck, Schneider , Carrick maybe JBrodz should definitely be dealt ..but it’s scary thinking of the return?
Btw non Ranger related ..How did the Pens get Girard and 2nd rounder for Brett Kulak? Seemed like that should have been an even up deal.
See how it easy it is to get second rd picks? But Panarin couldn’t fetch one..lolIn regards to Giroux vs. Panarin… Ill use the Knights vs. Kraken analogy for this. Because it wasnt necessarily a common move, when Giroux got traded, I think the thought process initially was well we have to give proper value despite the clause, right? As was with the Knights, teams werent quite sure how to approach expansion and the Knights absolutely poached everyone and so when it was time for the Kraken, GMs were prepared and that didnt happen again. And so… when Panarin came around, GM didnt feel entitled to give any more than Greentree and a couple of mid-late picks. If Holland says “thats the offer, take it or leave it”, what are you gonna do? Threaten to not trade Panarin and let him walk for nothing? That would have made you a lot happier right? That Drury stood his ground..!? PS: Go watch highlights of Greentree from this season.
Does it matter that its a late 2026 1st round pick? These 2026 1st round picks are very valuable, plus we also got their 2026 2nd as well. With how badly teams are trying to acquire RHD, Id try to dangle Morrow and see if we could get another 2nd round pick for him.
But Ill be honest, we dont trade Trocheck, I wont be disappointed about it. I would rather keep him than trade him for the sake of trading him.
Schneider, with these RHD trades, could pull a 1st round pick. I doubt it. But I could see a 2nd, a 3rd and a prospect.
If McCarron can pull a 2nd round pick, theres absolutely no reason why Carrick shouldnt… and I said this before, everyone laughed, that ya’ll would be surprised what these bottom 6 glue guy centers can pull.
Im torn on Trocheck, I love his play, he is a playoff player that any team would want but they really need to trade him. With all the talk around him, can you imagine he doesnt get traded now? He knows he is a short timer here, he will most likely be moved in the off season, why bother keeping him around? To win another few games? We need to lose games at this point, not win.
Id rather keep anyone under 25 and rebuild from there. No need to trade any of them because you dont know how a 2nd round pick will turn out. Problem is we need to rebuild right, get rid of the over 30 vets and take it from there.
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Is not. This is the only forum for the last month+. I posted in a blog a couple blogs ago and got a response from Bill but he seemed aggravated with what I said. Jan said he’d make sure each blog has a forum, but that has yet to happen. Then someone said they’re having issues with the forums they’re trying to resolve. This site is somehow worse than the buzz. I want it to succeed and have offered multiple suggestions, but not a single thing has changed. Very difficult to have flowing conversation on here.
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https://x.com/eklund/status/2029702564824940660?s=46&t=uyemCTfXPLjxebCnYBfx6Q
Oh no shit EK?? Really lol???
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Just goes back to what most of us have been saying .. Drury sucks as President and GM.
I don’t care that Greentree is a solid prospect. ( he’s playing the OHL which is a highly offensive league)
So yes when Panarin a 5x 30 goal scorer and 49 goal scorer doesn’t fetch a second rd pick but Nicolas Roy gets a first???
Yeah makes me think Drury is a clown.
Panarin had the most points of players that have been traded thus far.
What a good GM should have done is said so you’re going to deny your fan base a chance to watch Artemi Panarin this season playing with Kempe and Kopitar over a second rd pick or god forbid a first rd pick? How about calling Hollands bluff? He has no negotiating skills whatsoever..he has been so heavy handed as our General Mismanager. He’s basically alienated half the team going back to last year. Yet the one who created this disaster is in charge of (retooling ) this tire fire? Just doesn’t seem right..As far as the site, yeah it’s definitely hit or miss. You do have to login multiple times but once you see your logged in you can just hit submit and it posts.
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Roy got a 1st. Insane how bad Drury is at trading
So what youre saying is you would have been happy with a 1st round pick for Trocheck?
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Just goes back to what most of us have been saying .. Drury sucks as President and GM.
I don’t care that Greentree is a solid prospect. ( he’s playing the OHL which is a highly offensive league)
So yes when Panarin a 5x 30 goal scorer and 49 goal scorer doesn’t fetch a second rd pick but Nicolas Roy gets a first???
Yeah makes me think Drury is a clown.
Panarin had the most points of players that have been traded thus far.
What a good GM should have done is said so you’re going to deny your fan base a chance to watch Artemi Panarin this season playing with Kempe and Kopitar over a second rd pick or god forbid a first rd pick? How about calling Hollands bluff? He has no negotiating skills whatsoever..he has been so heavy handed as our General Mismanager. He’s basically alienated half the team going back to last year. Yet the one who created this disaster is in charge of (retooling ) this tire fire? Just doesn’t seem right..As far as the site, yeah it’s definitely hit or miss. You do have to login multiple times but once you see your logged in you can just hit submit and it posts.
I agree with you on this but Panarin did have leverage but you mean to tell me you couldnt get Panarin to go to any other team within the 4k miles of the 2 coasts?? Drury over played his hand with the “Letter”
What a dummy, we will be in hockey purgatory for 5-8 years!!
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I read an article where Emily Kaplan was saying drury backed himself into a corner with a lot of these trades and gms not willing to overpay because he showed what he was doing. Said he made a tough situation for himself
This is Drury the genius at work here, announces to the world that we are retooling the roster, trades the team leading scorer for a prospect and a 4th liner for a 3rd rounder and then holds pat?? What an idiot!!! Yeah he planned ahead!!
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Yep..What a clown..( you beat me to it Brukie)
Heard the Wild offered Stramel , Carson Lambos a D prospect and 1st this year and 2nd next.
Also saw Trocheck scrubbed his New York Rangers social media. So now again Drury causes all this unnecessary BS.
He almost has to trade him now for again ( not equal value) because he created this animosity in the room.
Get ready for Yzerman to come fleece him.He has no clue how to work with leverage.
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This whole Panarin deal is even more nuts.. he wants to go only to LA? Which is odd..he never once mentioned the LA area as a destination.
Soo he wanted to go to a contender? Well the Kings are not making the playoffs. I find it hard to believe that if CD would have held onto him through the Olympic deadline ( which he self imposed) you couldn’t have gotten him to add other teams to his list ( maybe someone who is in the playoffs) . You still only want the Kings Artemi? They are selling off assets.
Again had he not painted himself into a corner Panarin was still with the team, GM’s wouldn’t have been lining up.. sorry just don’t buy a recent conversation with Gavrikov spurned him on to La and LA only.It’s amazing he overpays for guys when he has all the leverage.. yet you get a prolific scorer in AP and get a good prospect( but who knows) for him.
I’d like to know who still thinks this clown is doing a good job. ( besides Dolan)But hey at least we still don’t have a second rd pick?
I thought Sather was the worst GM in Rangers history..( Drury ..hold my beer)
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Wow, Drury put the for sale sign out there for the world to see and of course got fleeced!!! All I am reading about is how 1st round picks are flying around and Panarin only got a prospect????
Tell the world Trocheck is being traded and hold him out, only to have him NOT get traded??? What a dummy!!!
FIRE DRURY!!!!
Where is Tj, I really want to ask him if Drury is still his guy or what??
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Now that trocheck is officially staying…. His value will never be higher than it was leading up to the deadline. He’s going to play and therefore we will win more games than if he was traded, worsening our lottery chances. What a complete disaster
Just when you thought it couldnt get any worse, It does.
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Right? Please find me a Drury apologist.. lol
Our retool consisted of acquiring Greentree and 2 3rd’s one 4 and a 6 and Aiden Thompson
Look out now! Drury calling this a retool is like calling a woman half pregnant..:)
What a crap show.. Even Jan was ripping him for the Carrick deal ..
It’s unreal how bad things are here. Our top 3 centers will be at least 34 in 2 years..
Yet we are retooling ..
Everyone said Drury needs to hit it out of the park in Trocheck deal.
He never even made it to the ballpark.He is incredibly incompetent!
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I understand that people are mad about the Trocheck situation, but personally, Im not bothered by it. Would ya’ll would have been happy with a mediocre return as long as a 1st was attached to it? Nope. You guys would have complained about the return regardless of what it was. The way I see it, Drury was not going to trade Trocheck unless a legit player was coming back to NY… ie Yurov, Kasper, Nikishin (maybe Nadeau), Lohrei/Poitras… but no one was willing to part with them.
My theory on the Carrick situation is two fold. Drury knew Guerin wanted Trocheck, but also wanted a depth C. So he tried to use Carrick to leverage Guerin to trade Yurov, he didnt want the additional 2nd in 2028 and still get a mediocre return for Trocheck. So Guerin traded for McCarron and said hey, we dont need Carrick anymore, deal is still as it stands.
People say Trochecks value is at its highest now, but apparently no one was willing to pony up. However, I dont think Trocheck’s value will take much of a hit. Matter of fact, he still becomes a useful trade piece for us in the offseason if lets say we try to pull the rights to Robo or Dorofeyev. People are getting way too dramatic about this.
The Carrick trade on its own, I think Drury was given a choice of either a 2nd round pick in 2029 or a 3rd round pick in 2026, and with the depth this draft is supposed to have, he wanted the pick now.
As far as Schneider goes, what are we going to get in return for Schneider that would be better for us next year? We retain his rights and could potentially trade him at the draft.
What I got from this, Drury isnt interested in getting prospects and potential. He wants young players he can plug in immediately. Im not mad about it.
Was the letter necessary? Absolutely not. That was a huge fumble. However Im only looking at this from a phone booth sized sample of just this last month. Doesnt change my opinion on everything else.
People need to chill out though, I dont think this deadline was as bad as people make it out to be.
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This is where I disagree with you. You cant go out an announce you are trading a player, hold him out of the line up and not trade him. Drury did this before and it back fired. It affects the player and it could possibly affect the room, the room is still probably toxic and he is just encourages more toxicity.
Second off, either Drury is over valuing Trocheck or other GMs think they can fleece him, which is bad on both fronts. If other teams think Drury is an idiot, which Im sure most do, then there are other player and options out there, Trocheck isnt the only player that has to be traded. If Drury thinks Trocheck is worth more then thats a bigger problem because he will never get traded.
As for stock piling picks, who cares about 3rd to 7th rounders. The chances of them making an impact are less that 20 or so percent. You need 1st and second rounders and you need to develop them, which the Rangers cant.
I found this draft player playing percentage stats which is what Im talking about.
1st ROUND PICKS [1267 players]
MIN. 1 GAME : 1131 (89.30%) 0 GAME : 136 (10.70%)
100+ GAMES : 872 (68.80%) < 100 : 395 (31.20%)
500+ GAMES : 524 (41.40%) < 500 : 743 (58.60%)2nd ROUND PICKS [1317 players]
MIN. 1 GAME : 887 (67.40%) 0 GAME : 430 (32.60%)
100+ GAMES : 503 (38.20%) < 100 : 814 (61.80%)
500+ GAMES : 219 (16.60%) < 500 : 1098 (83.40%)3rd ROUND PICKS [1286 players]
MIN. 1 GAME : 662 (51.50%) 0 GAME : 624 (48.50%)
100+ GAMES : 362 (28.10%) < 100 : 924 (71.90%)
500+ GAMES : 129 (10.00%) < 500 : 1098 (90.00%)4th ROUND PICKS [1291 players]
MIN. 1 GAME : 528 (40.90%) 0 GAME : 763 (59.10%)
100+ GAMES : 274 (21.20%) < 100 : 1017 (78.80%)
500+ GAMES : 105 (8.10%) < 500 : 1186 (91.90%)5th ROUND PICKS [1305 players]
MIN. 1 GAME : 431 (33.00%) 0 GAME : 874 (67.00%)
100+ GAMES : 194 (14.90%) < 100 : 1111 (85.10%)
500+ GAMES : 63 (4.80%) < 500 : 1242 (95.20%)6th-7th ROUND PICKS [2528 players]
MIN. 1 GAME : 697 (27.60%) 0 GAME : 1832 (72.40%)
100+ GAMES : 330 (13.00%) < 100 : 2199 (87.00%)
500+ GAMES : 128 (5.10%) < 500 : 2401 (94.90%) -
Aecliptic. I don’t disagree about not trading him if the right deal wasn’t in place. But you don’t go announce to the league you’re going to trade him, hold him out of the lineup, and then not trade him. You don’t send a letter out saying you’re retooling, and your retool consists of (3) 3rd round picks, (1) 6th round pick and a prospect.
I’m opposed to trading Schneider, and don’t like we traded Othmann. He trades for these bums, Borgen, Uro, Parsenin etc, his value of players is then worst in the league. He needs to be gone. Based on how he values players, he probably had a home run package and turned it down bc of how he views players based on past trades. Blais, Brisson, the list goes on and on.
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Aecliptic. I don’t disagree about not trading him if the right deal wasn’t in place. But you don’t go announce to the league you’re going to trade him, hold him out of the lineup, and then not trade him. You don’t send a letter out saying you’re retooling, and your retool consists of (3) 3rd round picks, (1) 6th round pick and a prospect.
I’m opposed to trading Schneider, and don’t like we traded Othmann. He trades for these bums, Borgen, Uro, Parsenin etc, his value of players is then worst in the league. He needs to be gone. Based on how he values players, he probably had a home run package and turned it down bc of how he views players based on past trades. Blais, Brisson, the list goes on and on.
This is where the last part of my post hits on the fact that sending the letter was a massive blunder, and I said it 2 years ago when all the Trouba stuff started going public. Then you got the stuff with Goodrow. Then you got the media harassing Mika if he’d waive his NMC. Now we have the letter, Panarin and Trocheck. His first year as GM, he was so tight lipped and actually made a couple good moves and we got into the ECF. However, I think this quick success went to his head cause hes become a real idiot with how hes conducting himself.
Despite all that, Im not mad at how the deadline went. As far as Trocheck goes, I think hes a gamer, I dont think this will affect him. His kids will be so excited that hes staying in NY for now that I think this will be just fine.
I think Drury thinks he can do better in the off-season. The way thinks are looking on the west coast is very very interesting. Its looking pretty much a lock that the Wild and Stars will play each other in the first round. Both teams have players of interest for the Rangers. Stars get bumped in the first round, questions start circling around Robo. Wild get booted in the first round, questions start circling if theyll ever be good enough to be anything more than an early exit playoff team and that will affect Hughes decision to stay or go. Dorofeyev is a RFA, with how cap strapped Vegas always is, he might be available. The East is wide open I feel, and if Carolina cant make it to the ECF then they need to take a long hard look in the mirror. Wings and Sabres will find out where they stand on a playoff level.
Thats how I feel about it, and I dont think it will affect Trocheck’s value. Trocheck is still under contract for 3 more years after this on one of the sexiest AAV’s for what he can provide.
Schneider, I think the fans blew that up far more than anything. I dont think Drury made any serious indication that he would trade him, I think Fans just assumed he would be part of the retool because he might fetch something significant. He might have been listening to offers, but unless it was significant he had no intention of moving him.
Which is the route Drury should have taken in general instead of sending that dumb letter. “I like the core of players we have, I think its a solid foundation to build on next year, of course if someone calls with an offer to blow me away Id listen. Despite the rough year, we’ve dealt with significant injuries to key players that have attributed to that. I whole heartedly believe we are better than the standings show.” Should have been the most ambiguous response ever.
Generally speaking now, as far as Raddysh, whats the point in trading a proven depth player for a 4th rounder? Doesnt do anything for us. Same goes for Brodz and Vaak, etc…
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This is where I disagree with you. You cant go out an announce you are trading a player, hold him out of the line up and not trade him. Drury did this before and it back fired. It affects the player and it could possibly affect the room, the room is still probably toxic and he is just encourages more toxicity.
Second off, either Drury is over valuing Trocheck or other GMs think they can fleece him, which is bad on both fronts. If other teams think Drury is an idiot, which Im sure most do, then there are other player and options out there, Trocheck isnt the only player that has to be traded. If Drury thinks Trocheck is worth more then thats a bigger problem because he will never get traded.
As for stock piling picks, who cares about 3rd to 7th rounders. The chances of them making an impact are less that 20 or so percent. You need 1st and second rounders and you need to develop them, which the Rangers cant.
Dude, you know how I feel about the developmental side of things. Ive been driving that wagon to fire Ortmeyer and Glass for years.
As far as Trocheck goes, I think hes a gamer, I dont think this will affect him. His kids will be so excited that hes staying in NY for now that I think this will be just fine. I put this in my previous post but it was more of a response to you.
Was Drury over valuing Trocheck? Schenn is older and not as good as Trocheck at this point and got a 1st, 3rd, Drouin (who is a cap dump, is ass and always injured), and an unsigned prospect. Youre telling me that Trocheck isnt worth a 1st and Yurov? Lets look at Kadri… 1st, 2nd, Olofsson (zero valuAe addon, just for cap purposes), a prospect (Curran, unsigned good year in WHL but that doesnt mean much), 20% retained on remaining contract. Again, nothing major in this trade. Would you have taken that package from Avs, sans the retention? I dont think Drury was overvaluing Trocheck, I just think he didnt want a whole bunch of quantity/projects added on to the 1st rd pick.
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I talked about Belchetz about a month ago, I’d love to get that kid
Gonna be quite the dilemma if they have to decide between Malhotra or Belchetz. We really have nothing in the pipeline center wise.
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Gonchars nephew having quite a year in OHL. Needs to put on like 25 lbs though.
Anyone been following Fortescue and Emery? They had a little bit of hype behind them, hows that looking?
Been checking out all these unsigned prospects. The Wolfpack might be getting a serious influx of kids next year. Greentree, Lamb, Fortescue, Aspinal, maybe Gonchar, maybe Battaglia, possibly whoever we draft this year with our 1st round picks.
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