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Flyers Acquire Zegras for Poehling and Two Draft Picks
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It is interesting that Zegras has 2 60 point seasons and is almost 2 years younger then Tippett. Not meant a slight with Tippett, but his future is very much in doubt to be on the team long term if Zegras has a good season and the current organizational depth at wing.
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It is interesting that Zegras has 2 60 point seasons and is almost 2 years younger then Tippett. Not meant a slight with Tippett, but his future is very much in doubt to be on the team long term if Zegras has a good season and the current organizational depth at wing.
Zegras is a center. I don’t see how Zegras’ play has any bearing on Tippett future with this team. They signed him to an 8 year contract. There is no indication that their feelings concerning Tippett as a player has changed. They might very likely see Zegras as the playmaking center to play with Tippett.
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It is interesting that Zegras has 2 60 point seasons and is almost 2 years younger then Tippett. Not meant a slight with Tippett, but his future is very much in doubt to be on the team long term if Zegras has a good season and the current organizational depth at wing.
Trades in today’s game have to be looked at from a big picture view point. I’m not a fan of this trade. This trade, while the value in a bubble is a small return, shows the mindset of this team. There will be other dominoes to this movie. They are in the process of improving the team. capping out the team for a team that won’t come close top reaching the level of a legit cup contender. When all is said and done. This will be another in a long line of misguided moves that will only likely result in another “dead period” where the team will go through the cycle of a faux rebuild. Only to enact the same tired and failed strategies over and over again.
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For the price it’s well worth taking a shot on Zegras. If he can stay healthy this is a big plus.
This has to absolutely help the power play.
On the downside if this trade works the flyers may be just outside looking in on the lottery next year.
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For the price it’s well worth taking a shot on Zegras. If he can stay healthy this is a big plus.
This has to absolutely help the power play.
On the downside if this trade works the flyers may be just outside looking in on the lottery next year.
You get the potential with Zegras and if he works out you won’t need that lottery pick. If he fizzles you get that lottery pick 😀
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It is interesting that Zegras has 2 60 point seasons and is almost 2 years younger then Tippett. Not meant a slight with Tippett, but his future is very much in doubt to be on the team long term if Zegras has a good season and the current organizational depth at wing. — Trox88
Also interesting he’s played a total of 88 games the past two seasons… a big reason why Anaheim gave him up for what is (at the moment) perceived to be so little. Yes, he has lots of potential, but potential can’t be realized if he can’t stay on the ice.
Remember how many of us thought the Ryan Ellis deal was a steal?
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Also interesting he’s played a total of 88 games the past two seasons… a big reason why Anaheim gave him up for what is (at the moment) perceived to be so little. Yes, he has lots of potential, but potential can’t be realized if he can’t stay on the ice.
Remember how many of us thought the Ryan Ellis deal was a steal?
Ellis had injuries before the trade, but that pretty much where the comparison to Zegras ends. Ellis was much more accomplished in the NHL then Zegras. You would hope so because Ellis was 30 years old at the time of the trade, Zegras is 24. More importantly, Ellis had 7 years left on his contract, Zegras will be an RFA at the end of the season. If it does not work out for any reason, they can walk away with no cap penalty.
Poehling is a good bottom 6 center in the league, so ANA got value back. However, I believe Verbeek over played his hand in what he go back for trading Zegras. He has been on the trade block for a couple years apparently. There was a rumor, the Drysdale-Gauthier trade had a chance to grow bigger including Zegras.
Getting a bottom 6 center and a 2nd and 4th round pick for a former top 10 pick could turn out to be awful value for the Ducks. No guarantee it works out for the Flyers. However, the really good GMs makes these trades and it works out exceptionally well for them. Zito acquiring Bennett from CLG and Reinhart from BUF. McCrimmon getting Eichel from BUF. Since the Flyers decided not to tank, these are the type of trades Briere must make and it has to work out.
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Trades in today’s game have to be looked at from a big picture view point. I’m not a fan of this trade. This trade, while the value in a bubble is a small return, shows the mindset of this team. There will be other dominoes to this movie. They are in the process of improving the team. capping out the team for a team that won’t come close top reaching the level of a legit cup contender. When all is said and done. This will be another in a long line of misguided moves that will only likely result in another “dead period” where the team will go through the cycle of a faux rebuild. Only to enact the same tired and failed strategies over and over again.
no one cares if your a fan of the trade. the mind set on this trade seems to be you roll the dice on a 24 year old,, with skill that is needed, who needs a change scenary to possibly get back to the 60 point plyer he once was. There are risks, ones worth taking. there is no long term commitment. now if they give him an 8 year ext then you can piss and moan all you want.
This is the type of move they should be doing. finding undervalued assets for minimal cost.
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no one cares if your a fan of the trade. the mind set on this trade seems to be you roll the dice on a 24 year old,, with skill that is needed, who needs a change scenary to possibly get back to the 60 point plyer he once was. There are risks, ones worth taking. there is no long term commitment. now if they give him an 8 year ext then you can piss and moan all you want.
This is the type of move they should be doing. finding undervalued assets for minimal cost.
Reinhart only broke 60 points once before being traded to Florida. I bet people would have bitched if we had traded for him back then
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Trades in today’s game have to be looked at from a big picture view point. I’m not a fan of this trade. This trade, while the value in a bubble is a small return, shows the mindset of this team. There will be other dominoes to this movie. They are in the process of improving the team. capping out the team for a team that won’t come close top reaching the level of a legit cup contender. When all is said and done. This will be another in a long line of misguided moves that will only likely result in another “dead period” where the team will go through the cycle of a faux rebuild. Only to enact the same tired and failed strategies over and over again.
it’s been a pleasure going over to HF Boards and watching MJL get his ass handed to him by pretty much everyone haha
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Why I believe Zegras can make Tippett expendable is due to cap allocation. If Zegras is re signed after this season, it will be for more then his current cap hit of 5.75 million. In 2 years, Michkov will be signing his second contract and potentially Foerster signing his third contract. Granted, Tippett at 6.2 million in a rising cap is not bad, but right now arguably the current top 9 forwards is- Michkov, TK, Zegras, Foerster, Couts, Brink, Tippett, Cates, and ???? Couts contract will be hard to move. TK and Michkov basically untouchable. Cates contract can be moved as well as Brink. However, not sure Tippett is a forward who really can play a 3rd line role. Also, forwards such as Bump, Grebenkin, and Luchanko will probably be ready for an NHL role within the next 2 seasons. Just a numbers game with Tippett. Interesting roster construction decisions are ahead.
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it’s been a pleasure going over to HF Boards and watching MJL get his ass handed to him by pretty much everyone haha
Bill, can you do something about these alts that keep popping up?
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It’s hard to know what’s an alt when someone initially registers, although it soon becomes obvious with their posts. Banning a fake account or a full IP ban are easier here than at HB. The problem being that Mike and I handle all content here in terms of editing for others (mostly for SEO purposes) as well as writing our own. So we’re not on the boards to monitor as much as we’d like. Not enough hours in the day, especially with the two of us juggling multiple writing gigs. But if something specific is brought to our attention, we try to address it as promptly as we can. So you guys are invaluable as our eyes and ears as well as people to let people know we’re here by word of mouth.
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Why I believe Zegras can make Tippett expendable is due to cap allocation. If Zegras is re signed after this season, it will be for more then his current cap hit of 5.75 million. In 2 years, Michkov will be signing his second contract and potentially Foerster signing his third contract. Granted, Tippett at 6.2 million in a rising cap is not bad, but right now arguably the current top 9 forwards is- Michkov, TK, Zegras, Foerster, Couts, Brink, Tippett, Cates, and ???? Couts contract will be hard to move. TK and Michkov basically untouchable. Cates contract can be moved as well as Brink. However, not sure Tippett is a forward who really can play a 3rd line role. Also, forwards such as Bump, Grebenkin, and Luchanko will probably be ready for an NHL role within the next 2 seasons. Just a numbers game with Tippett. Interesting roster construction decisions are ahead.
One of Tippett, Brink, and Pelletier won’t be here much longer. Foerster might even be trade bait but we need larger guys like him
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Bill would you have rather has zegras or rossi?
really hope they do not rush to sign him to an ext. there is no need as need to see a full year first. if he produces (and not healthy) like he has the last 2 years you need to walk away or sing a 1 year very cheap deal.
hope this doesn’t cloud their judgment on taking hagens if he is there, though briere has loved him for 2 years.
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It is close for me over preference between Zegras and Rossi. A rumor recently was VAN offered #15 for Rossi and was rejected. I would assume it is safe to believe acquiring Rossi will require more valuable assets. Makes sense considering Zegras’ injury history. The team that acquires Rossi will be married to him for the long-term. He prefers signing a long-term deal over a bridge deal apparently. The Flyers can move on from Zegras as early as the trade deadline. I liked what Poehling brought to the team, but the reality was this was probably going to be his last season with the team. I do agree with Briere acquiring Zegras over Rossi with now knowing the package to acquire him.
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Bill would you have rather has zegras or rossi?
really hope they do not rush to sign him to an ext. there is no need as need to see a full year first. if he produces (and not healthy) like he has the last 2 years you need to walk away or sing a 1 year very cheap deal.
hope this doesn’t cloud their judgment on taking hagens if he is there, though briere has loved him for 2 years.
For what we gave up for Zegras, Zegras
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