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aecliptic
ParticipantTJ got the most recent forum locked and got banned. I’m all for having hockey talk again.
Kreider, 5 pts in 6 games. 50 pt regular season.
Definitely worth moving from pick 104 to 89 to get rid of him /sarcasm
Were all in a discord, jump in there.
aecliptic
ParticipantTop 5:
McKenna
Stenburg
Reid
Verhoeff
SmitsLate 1st/Rd2/rest of the draft:
It would take some maneuvering around, but I’d try to get both Ruck brothers. Something like 220 pts this season combined is nothing to dismiss. If not Wyatt Cullen is a great pick with the Canes 1st rder. After that the focus needs to be at center. They seem to have a decent pipeline of D and wingers
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If they trade the canes pick, and if they don’t get McKenna or Stenburg:Plan A.. Throw this deal at Vegas-
Emery, Garand and the Canes 1st rder for DorofeyevPlan B.. Brock Boeser for Schneider (assuming they’ve drafted Reid or Verhoeff). Could be Morrow and the second rder instead i suppose
Plan C.. whoever. They need a top 6 winger to be serious playoff contenders
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I would, for now, keep Trocheck. Rangers SHOULD be in the mix for the playoffs next season. If they aren’t, reevaluate Trocheck then and any others. I just think the sell off is over after Panarin, and now they have the identity they’ve wanted. North South, and no longer East West
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I really like the top line and bottom 6. Laf with mika and Perrault had some great chemistry, as did the kid 4th line. Miller and Kartye also. Keep Sheary around until Greentree could take that spot on RW. Trocheck with Cuylle and the new acquisition would round out the forwardsD corp would be bolstered by the draft pick, otherwise it looked pretty good post Olympics. I’m not opposed to Fortesque playing a year in Hartford and getting someone as a placeholder (ie- like Soucy)
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Just trust the process fellas. Be patient. They’re on the right track. They’re BUILDING a team, rather than buying one with limited cap space. Game 82 they had 10 draft picks in the lineup, and they all contribute somethingI dont want the Ruck brothers, matter of fact Im not a fan of most players from the WHL. Its the weakest league in the CHL, and have recently had a mass exodus of players to the NCAA.
Cullen, Hextall and Galishov are my targets for late 1st, 2nd round players. It would be pretty cool if we somehow ended up with Reid, Klepov and Hextall as theyre all committed to Michigan State.
The only way we should switch gears, and Ive seen some of the North American scouts talking about it, is if Stenberg drops to #3 because Reid has crept up the board. However, Id still try to stick with the MSU kids Klepov and Hextall, but Id also add Tommy Bleyl to that who is also a very talented, high IQ puck moving defenseman.
aecliptic
ParticipantJan, first of all thank you so much for everything you do with these blogs. I know our little community has gotten smaller since we changed sites but hopefully we’ll build back up to what we had.
With regards to questions, the obvious ones are what happens to troch and gravs? I think one of them is gone but I’m not really sure it’s a smart move to get rid of either.
Does JT recover from a disastrous first year as captain, especially with the comments he made today at breakup day, or does he sink and continue the trend of captains getting chased out of town
As far as the summer, I have a sinking suspicion they’ll try to make a splash trade but not really sure what they have to give up. I’m assuming Matthews and Brady T are on Drurys number one list because of the team USA connection but I don’t think either are what this team needs.
I think theres a 50/50 situation with Trocheck. They dont need to move him, but after already shopping him they might feel like they have to. Personally, I think they should ride out the season with Trocheck and reaccess when the deadline nears based on our position. As far as Gavrikov, I dont think anything happens there, not yet.
Sullivan talked about working on the bottom 6, but I think we have most of our bottom 6 figured out with Kartye, Sykora, Laba and Chmelar.
JT was a mistake from the get go. What a disaster he has been as captain. The problem is you cant just strip him of the C at this point and keep him on the team because its almost a guarantee his attitude and locker room presence will only get worse.
Matthews I dont want on this team. Brady I would be more amenable to, but not at the cost of the 3rd overall pick.
Im against pretty much any and all big splash trades.
______________As far as the draft goes, IMO if we end up with any pick 1 through 4, you keep it and draft. If we end up at 5, then maybe some discourse could be had about trading back. However the question is how far back? I want them to draft Smits, so if theres any risk to trading back and missing on him than just draft him at 5 and move on. Some will argue to go for Malhotra or Lawrence, but I think that would be a big mistake. Theyre good prospects but I feel like their stock has been inflated due to the fact that there are barely any centers in this draft.
After that first pick, its a wild card of possibilities of what could happen. The biggest one is if we end up drafting Reid or Verhoeff, what does the future hold for Schneider? Do we end up trading him at the draft? Where is his trade value at? Been a hop topic of discussion for a while now.
I think the Rangers should take the early 3rd round pick they have and package it to move up to get another pick in the second round, I think they should do the same with the late 2nd they have.
Guys Id target in the late 1st and 2nd round: Wyatt Cullen, Jack Hextall, Tommy Bleyl (if they dont draft Reid or Verhoeff) and Lavr Galishov.
aecliptic
ParticipantHm… Rangers find themselves in an interesting situation. Kartye, Chmelar and Sykora are all playing quite well and bring a fresh sense of energy for the bottom 6. For all the hate Sheary has gotten, the energy of the kids has really given him a boost. The squad has a lot of bottom 6 depth now, which isnt necessarily a bad thing, but some trimming of the fat needs to occur. Question is, do they sell high on these kids theyve brought up or do they try to move the others.
What are you trying to say? You want to trade these kids?
Oh Im not saying they should, just gonna be interesting to see what prick Drury does. Should have said, “does Drury sell high on these kids or does he move the others to trim all the excess”.
But, they are going to need to figure out what the plan is for a 2nd line because were basically rolling a two 3rd lines and a 4th line.
aecliptic
ParticipantHm… Rangers find themselves in an interesting situation. Kartye, Chmelar and Sykora are all playing quite well and bring a fresh sense of energy for the bottom 6. For all the hate Sheary has gotten, the energy of the kids has really given him a boost. The squad has a lot of bottom 6 depth now, which isnt necessarily a bad thing, but some trimming of the fat needs to occur. Question is, do they sell high on these kids theyve brought up or do they try to move the others.
aecliptic
ParticipantHoly crap, the Knights fired Cassidy and hired Tortorella.
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ParticipantLooks like things are finally “working” again.
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ParticipantIf Fox, in his heart, love the Rangers as he does than he will see this through. Should the Rangers end up drafting Verhoeff, they have his replacement. Lets look at it hypothetically, specifically on defense. Lets say the Rangers draft Verhoeff, then they make a 1 for 1 hockey trade of Schneider for Lohrei. The defense shapes out…
Gavrikov/Fox – we already know these 2 have good chemistry, theyre solid together, complement each other very well.
Lohrei/Verhoeff – pair of the future, as the top 2 age, these 2 move up.
Robertson/Borgen – solid third pair.One pick and one tweak, and that D looks actually quite decent.
Outside of 13, 93, 94… the forward group is kind of a hot mess. I would consider selling high on Kartye if someone threw an offer at us.
aecliptic
ParticipantThe thing is, by trading Trocheck for more futures, theres really nothing Drury can do to retool this team properly without mortgaging the future. Which would be a wildly egregious error to not bank on this draft and the 2027 draft, which some say is supposed to be even better than 2026. Good thing we traded the 2027 2nd round pick to the Pens for Reilly Smith.
They could find themselves with three 1sts in this draft (we already have 2), or three 1sts in next years draft if they do things right. But drafting 5-6 first rounders in this and next years draft puts them like 3 years away. Timeline wise it does workout great because it will sync to when certain players’ contracts will be expiring. However this is not how things were advertised based on the letter. Which is concerning because I would much prefer that than whatever he is doing now. Just tell me were gonna suck for a couple years as we clean up the roster and rebuild through the draft. Atleast I know what to expect.
aecliptic
ParticipantGotta say… I kinda like the Cuylle, Trocheck, Sykora line.
Chmelar looks pretty good too, Ive said before he kinda reminds me of Julien Gauthier with his size and ability to use it to get to the net.
Trocheck is most likely a goner this summer.
What is the trade value of a soon to be 33yo 50 point guy?
Honestly, not much less, if still equal as it was at this deadline… and what I mean by equal is what other GMs were willing to give up, not the price that Drury was asking. So its still a 1st, maybe a mid-pick and a prospect. Hes still the same player, hes not injury prone, contract is still the same with excellent term. Nothing would have changed from the deadline to July.
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