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Panarin for a 1st 2nd and prospect
Trocheck for a 1st 3rd and prospect (look at the Nelson deal from last year)
Soucy for a 3rd
Carrick for a 2nd or 3rd (seems crazy but I really don’t think it is)
Brodzinski for a 5th
Get whoever else u can to waive. Load up on draft picks, tank the season and hope we land in the top 5. This is a deep draft, having 4 1st in a draft like this would be huge for the future of this organization.
It depends on what management views this team as. If they think this team can win, which is laughable, then they arent selling off.
…and I think history to this point has shown that they will continue to buy, and continue to build around a flawed team. It would genuinely shock me if we had more than one 1st round pick after the deadline.
The problem with Mika is ….. Mika. I doubt he waives to go anywhere. Would be nice though to move on from him.
Thats the thing, around the same time last year when he was interviewed, he said he wouldnt rule it out if the situation was right. The Wild are a good situation. They just got Hughes, theyre obviously in win now mode and theyre playing very well. On top of that theres a few of his Swede buddies on the Wild, plus Zucc. I think the problem is less about Zib and more about what Drury wants for him vs what Guerin is willing to give up.
I really hope Guerin watched last nights game and thought to himself, hmm maybe he can still play, maybe with a change of scenery, maybe uniting him with his team Sweden mates will fire him up.
#dreamingbig
I really hate this site.
This site really tries your patience. The buzz is up and running but there isnt anyone there.
I know it works, but the layout and discussion thing is idiotic.
To MIN: Panarin (5.8m retained), Ziba (2m retained), Sykora
To NYR: Stramel, Hartman, 2027 1st, 2028 1stDoes that seem plausible?
The wild still want a top 6 forward and they are willing to move Hartman to do so according to the internet. The match is so clear here for both sides that Drury should be blacklisted from the NHL if he doesn’t try to do something like
Panarin ($2m-$3m retained)
For
Hartman (2x$4m remaining)
Charlie Stramel
2027 1st round pick (drop it lower and/or make it conditional if they won’t do it)If you want to get buck wild (pun intended) Minnesota desperately needs a top 6 center so you could throw Trocheck in there for another prospect
Im all for the first part of the trade, but if Im the Rangers I retain half on Panarin to try to maximize the return.
For the second part. Id rather try to trade Zibanejad. I think the situation on the Wild might be one where he might waive his NMC. Mika, 1.5m retained, for a 2028 first round pick.
Jan, in your opinion, when should Drury be fired? Or do you think he should be kept?
This just extended him this season, I fully expect him to still be GM at the start of next season.
The question is, do they do the right thing and abandon ship with some of these players (to stock up on picks and prospects) or do they attempt to pointlessly buy at the deadline to try to make the playoffs.
Drury has got to be fired soon… Right??? Right???
It will come down to whether or not they make the playoffs, however the problem is he just signed a multi-year extension in April… and the Rangers just hired his hand picked coach that hes probably been chasing since before they hired Laviolette.
I really can’t stand the way this team is built and the coaching staff/GM.
Are we a veteran team 1 piece away from making a run?
Are we a young team with a deep prospect pool?
A team figuring it out with a ton of draft capital?
We’re none of the above. No direction, just a group of individuals put on the ice to sell tickets. Disgusting what this team has become.
I never really understood any of it. I was never a huge Mika fan. I never felt he had the IT factor to be a true #1 center. Panarin is a phenomenal player, Trouba was ok, but the retool vs the rebuild was the wrong move. Followed by a whole bunch of bad drafting and unlucky “busts” really burned us.
I dont remember which draft it was, 19 or 20, but I really wanted us to trade the pick down. I think it was 2020 because I really wanted us to try to find a way to get both top 5 picks from Ottawa for our 1st.
How to win a game.
Cuylle, Miller, Perreault
Panarin, Trocheck, LAF
Othmann, Laba, Zibanejad
Berard, Carrick, RempeDrury and anyone involved in player development followed by all tradable players need to go. Drury can’t survive another rebuild. He cheated on the first one and now we’re in a terrible spot. I’ll say this in his defense, Laf and kakko not working out probably is the nail in the coffin for this version of the team. I think every other GM would’ve taken those two players if they were in our spot so you can’t blame him for that. Development failed them and they’ve failed themselves. Everything else he’s done (or not done, I.e. getting a difference maker) is trash though
All of this is probably moot because the word is (and history would agree) that Dolan is not interested in a rebuild in earnest
Kakko has 4 points in 15 games with Seattle this season, so I cant say that he has progressed his game.
LAF, unfortunately, has succumbed to a team with one of the worst managed and developed teams in the NHL. in 5 years, hes had 4 different head coaches and 2 different GMs. Let this sink in… since 2020 we’ve had David Quinn, Gerard Gallant, Peter Lavoilette and Mike Sullivan as head coaches. They didnt have a captain, then they did, then they traded him away 2 years later. How is any team, let alone a young player, supposed to find development and synchronicity under those conditions?
Quotes don’t work for me
“Along with Gabe, I wouldnt want to trade Cuylle (although he would probably get us a pretty decent haul)… and maybe Schneider. Might keep Morrow for PP purposes.”Cuylle is tradable. He’s been bad but still has good value. I’d be ok with him staying because of age and contract.
Schneider is a 2nd pairing d at best and if any team thinks he’s more than that we need to pull the trigger asap
I dont think Schneider is untradeable, I think hes good, Its kind of impossible to strip the team down to the bare bones, so I wouldnt force a trade involving him.. as you say cause of age and contract. But if theres a team out there that offers something along the lines of what KAndre got us (a 1st and a B prospect), Id have a hard time saying no at this point.
My biggest question is, what are they going to do with Panarin? We know Drury isnt a fan of his, Drury ripped Panarin after that ECF a few years ago, but if you dont sign him, it would look like they raised the white flag because there isnt another big FA player out there. Please I dont want to hear Mcdavid, he isnt coming here in 2 years, he wants to win a Cup, not hope to make the playoffs. So what to do with Panarin?
I say this with full transparency that I am wanting a full tear down/rebuild – any player should be on the table except Gabe. Panarin needs to be traded at the deadline no matter what – drury needs to find a way and take whatever he can get. resigning him for what he apparently wants is not worth it and will just be more of the same for this team.
Along with Gabe, I wouldnt want to trade Cuylle (although he would probably get us a pretty decent haul)… and maybe Schneider. Might keep Morrow for PP purposes.
