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they have a team light schedule coming up as well. peeps gong to be peacocking around. cant wait to see it.
I’ve always been a Tocchet fan, as a player and a coach, obviously I don’t know him as a person, so if he has them overachieving by Christmas. You’d better believe I’m gonna be strutting around…LOL!
Top half and better balanced than most.
This year is starting to remind me a lot of the 07-08 team. By 2010, that team was in the finals.
Personally, I don’t see the resemblance to 07-08 and I certainly don’t see a Chris Pronger in their future. But ya never know…right!
revise this discussion at the Olympic break. way too early to make any conclusions.
what happens when the goalie reverts back to his career numbers? or even a small uptick.
Agree, it’s way too early, however, there is enough there to make me say….hmmmm???
I think they’ve been interesting all along. You could see it coming if you knew what you were looking at.
They are anything but interesting, they’re a lunch bucket group who need to have extremely strong goaltending and strong, strong, systems play to have any success. They do seem quicker from what I saw last night though, maybe that’s just a figment of my imagination. I think, for whatever that’s worth, the absence of Tortorella is a big contributing factor.
Lineup updates for #SEAvsPHI:
• Dan Vladar gets the start in net.
• Forwards Nikita Grebenkin and Jett Luchanko slot back into the lineup.
• Rodrigo Abols and Nick Deslauriers come out.Just stick with the process, if there is one? This team needs a few more bottom of the league finishes to acquire some actual top line talent, specifically at center. Couturier may become a good trade chip come Dec/Jan, if that’s something he’s willing to entertain.
Another strong performance by the mighty Flyers, limited a strong Wild team to just 16 shots against, that’s great systems play and “coaching101” right there! 🙂
not by design though. shear incompetence. thats the scary part once again
The how isn’t important right now, what matters is that they finish low, which they appear to be trending towards. Although it’s a small sample size. In four or five years when things start to turn around there’ll probably be different people in charge. Don’t get caught up in the small stuff, poor management, just be glad they finish at or near the bottom of the league.
Looks like we’re right on track to finish near the bottom of the league and get those coveted high picks. The teams that get those picks are the teams that have success and win Championships.
did hiring torts set this franchise back? yes or no.
No, but he didn’t progress it either. Poor ownership, management, decision making and drafting set the franchise back. It’s going to take a few more years to climb out of it too!
Zito putting it all together for the Panthers doesn’t diminish that the team was built around those 2 anchors and it took many years after they were drafted to get where they are. The Flyers haven’t even drafted those players. The clock hasn’t even started on an actual rebuild.
It certainly could happen that the Flyers miss the playoffs again this year, they win the lottery and draft McKenna or finish badly enough to pull a rabbit out of a hat with another 13th or higher pick. We went through all the recent Cup winners, and while they’ve all built their teams a bit differently, they were all built solidly, deep, good sized and a bit nasty.
flyers will easily 99.9% miss the playoffs. flyers have nothing in common with the any recent cup winners.
flyers strategy is completely flawed on how to build a team.
I hope they miss the playoffs for the next three years, and continue to sell off players to acquire picks at the deadline, that’s how you rebuild through the draft. You lose, a lot! San Jose is gonna be an absolute wagon of a team, they’re losing a lot, but drafting really well…be the Sharks!!
@ yes its me 2050
I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how it all plays out. For me they are headed down the right direction, you just have to continually build until you get the right combination of players, that’s a slow process. The Oilers had what, five 1st overall picks and they still haven’t won the Cup. From 2010 to 2015, inclusive, Florida drafted 3rd, 23rd, 2nd, 1st & 11th overall and it still took them eleven years after they drafted Barkov 2nd overall to get the right combo of players and coach. I hope I’m right and you’re wrong. They need to draft a #1 center though, or trade for one. All that being said, this is nowhere near a finished product, they just started.
what are they doing differently from the past?
Better utilizing the draft. They’ve had 12 picks in the past three drafts in rounds 1 & 2, including five first round picks. Are they going to hit on every one of those, obviously not, but they’re setting themselves up for better odds by acquiring more picks. They still need a top 3 pick, or two, which they haven’t had, unfortunately. That’s where you start the process. It’s also the most picks they’ve had in rounds 1 & 2 during any three year stretch in their history. I’m hopeful that trend continues.
Personally, I really like where this is headed with the Briere era as GM. He’s only been at it two years, three drafts, plus Torts is now gone, they’ve acquired some nice young players from the draft. This isn’t going to be a quick fix, especially without a few top five picks, but I’m hopeful a few more good drafts they hit on some of these picks and we have some building blocks that start to stack up.
If your goal is to be a bubble team, then yes, that could happen. The foundation of a legit cup contender are the cornerstones (esp. on those rookie contracts), which they do not have nor are they doing what is necessary to get them. The players they are getting are not building blocks, they are complementary pieces.
The Flyers FO continuously try to slap a coat of paint on the Flyers without actually fixing the foundation. This is not a slam on the players themselves but until the cornerstones are in place they will all be asked to play above their abilities and that is not a recipe for success.
You’re trying to put the cart before the horse, it’s not a finished product yet. They’re three drafts into a rebuilding process, it’s ridiculous to think they’re going to turn the franchise around in three drafts without having a top five pick in any of those drafts. I completely understand the frustration, I was born in the late 60’s and I’ve been following this team for a long time, quite frankly, it’s been one of the worst run franchises for the past 15 years. They’ve been unable to adapt to a cap era, they’ve always built teams primarily through deals, not drafting. You can’t make good deals if you haven’t drafted well and have some ammunition to get what you want. Even with drafting there’s no guarantees, look at the Leafs, they had some excellent players they drafted but they were way too top heavy and didn’t build a balanced “team”.
I refuse to crap all over what they’re trying to accomplish just because I’m upset with the past, it hasn’t been good, but moving forward, I’m more hopeful than I’ve been in a long time.
