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based on what?
they have 1 potential elite level propsect.1. the rest are nothing but depth types if they pan out. though thats what danny boy wants.
“But like I said, when you’re not spending $12 million on a player, or even two like Edmonton does… Colorado has three or four high-end guys. We’re not going to be built that way. So depth will be important to us.”
Based on the fact you don’t have to draft a superstar to have had a good draft, that’s just ridiculous. There’s 23 guys on a roster who need to contribute, but yes, the Flyers need a better players in all positions. Drafting 1st overall means you probably had a really bad year, but no, Flyers fans don’t want that, and when they do have a bad year, like last year, they deem management as failures. You can’t have it both ways. Drafting high means you have a bad team, but you have to void out the fan noise and just go through with it.
You may be right on DB and Jones but some are now questioning the, as you accurately call it, re-tool which has been misleadingly called a rebuild for 2.5 years. DB has been here for 3 off-seasons and 3 drafts, there’s a reason the center depth is nonexistant and he’s the reason. Jett is projected to be a 3rd line center and that is his crown jewel. How can they be headed in the right direction when their only plan for addressing the hard positions which DB has neglected is praying to the heavens that a franchise center or franchise Dman are available for trade, the Flyers are able to make the best offer, and they want to come here? Good luck. Doesn’t sound so much different than Fletcher. Hayes was the best center available at the time and they paid whatever it took to get him. Does DBs plan sound much different?
Well, let me start by saying, three years in the grand scheme of things, isn’t a long timeline. Secondly, he was promoted to full time GM in May of 2023, since then they’ve done well in the draft given their draft positions, they’ve acquired some good young talent and they tried to maximize their number of picks. If they get two players from any one draft, they’ve done well. Michkkov, Bonk, Bjarnason and Barkley are good picks, but the later three need time to develop. I think Jack Berglund is going to surprise people when he eventually comes over, he’s only 19 years old and still developing, same with Luchanko just turned 19 in late August, he’s got lots of time to develop into even a middle six player. All the kids from the 2025 draft are just that, young kids, let them soak and develop. Everyone is impatient, I get that, the team has been shit and poorly ran for a long time. I’m hopeful, but I’m almost 60 years old, so experience tells me to be patient and see where they go with this. There wasn’t exactly anyone at the center position screaming out “TAKE ME” when they were picking in the draft, you can’t make up stuff that isn’t there.
Couturier with a point-blank opportunity last night and he passes it into the corner…LOL…is this where his game is at right now? That was embarrassing on his part, Jezuz!!
Kind of smoke and mirrors win for the Fly-Boys, along with some stellar goaltending. For a team that is really, really, void of any high-end talent they are managing “ok” this season. The Panthers dominated possession and scoring opportunities early on, but strong goaltending from Vladar and opportunistic scoring late in the third period allowed the Flyers to take the two points.
your nuts to think this regime is near the end. they have plenty of run way left imo
There is zero chance Jones and Briere are going anywhere, any time soon. They’re just starting the process of re-tooling the club and building some youth through the draft. Is there a long ways to go, yes, absolutely, their center depth is almost nonexistent, but they’re heading in the right direction with youth. Aren’t the Flyers one of the youngest teams in the league?
I have said I can see a MM for Hughes happening. Flyers will have to add to MM. What that add is not sure.
Even without an ext the flyers will make this deal.
IMO the flyers will trade MM by the end of the summer
Michkov for Hughes would be an absolute steal on the Flyers part!!
The Flyers now have given up the 4th least amount of goals in the league, and have scored the 4th least goals. Unless the team gets on a hot streak of shooting %, this is Tocchet hockey. It is no different then his last head coaching jobs. It is generally very boring hockey. Quite frankly, when the team plays three 3rd line centers and one 4th line center, the boredom factor is magnified. Really cannot afford to trade Luchanko or Nesbitt because no matter what the belief is in their ceiling, they have to let those players develop and hope because the cupboard is so barren right now. Couts, Cates, and Dvorak are basically the same type of center, redundancy at its highest.
It sure looks like they are going to do everything possible to make it as a wildcard. This roster is not taking steps to ascend into a playoff contender. It has serious structural issues that place the team right back into purgatory. The HC has zero interest in seeing if Zegras can develop into a top 6 center, which is something they have absolutely nothing close to at the NHL or AHL level. Baffling decisions.
You play with the team you’re given. Considering what a crappy lineup he has, he’s actually done an amazing job having them be competitive. During the 2023/24 season in Vancouver he had some higher-end offensive guys, they were +56 in goal differential, they finished 7th in GF and 5th in GA, again, you coach they guys your given. As for Zegras, he’s already been shifted to the wing, with 289 games under his belt and this being his sixth season, it’s clear he’s not a good fit at center, long term.
I don’t know much about these kids, but I’m excited one of them is going to be a Philadelphia Flyer!!
“David Pagnotta: Re NHL 2026 draft: Yeah you’ve got Gavin McKenna but they’re saying, a lot of the scouts are, that the top 5 picks in this draft are gonna be potential superstars – Inside Sports”
Flyer’s 4th line is embarrassing really. The fact ND plays any games is a joke. Still shows the dumb mentality of the flyer’s way. The 3 they use offer next to nothing.
Wonder what vet they bring in to solidify that 4th line. Tocchet will be in his ear.
The 4th line is really meaningless, it’s a huge nothing burger, they’re rebuilding, results at this point are finishing as low in the standings as they can.
It’s even more obvious in the year over year numbers. Lowest attendance in 30 years, except for the lockout year. I think they bought the New Error in Orange until Torts lit a match, threw it in the fuel tank and walked away last year. Without all the Torts drama the focus has shifted back to the on ice product that doesn’t have a Bedard type franchise center to promote/build around and the best young player they have, is hardly playing. But they did get bigger to prepare for that deep run.
Considering how the Flyers are one of the few teams that like to build from the bottom up it is absurd how unproductive they are. That’s multiple flyers coaches/gms who think ND deserves ice time.
Rebuild over without drafting or acquiring a single franchise cornerstone. Flyers roster building at it’s finest.
The rebuild is just starting, don’t buy into their verbal diarrhea about it being over and them hoping the worst is behind them. They secretly want to finish at the bottom again, they just won’t outwardly say it because they still want fans to believe. Exciting times…Lets Go Flyers!!!
The rebuild plan is going to a tee!! They’re still slightly competitive enough to draw in ticket revenue, primarily a gate driven league, but still bad enough that they’ll be selling at the deadline to acquire more quality picks and hopefully get into a top three overall selection. It’s a great time to be a Flyer fan.
I just looked up Anaheim’s lineup to see where their guys were…interesting.
Chris Kreider — Leo Carlsson — Troy Terry
Cutter Gauthier — Mason McTavish — Beckett Sennecke
Nikita Nesterenko — Ryan Poehling — Alex Killorn
Ryan Strome — Mikael Granlund — Frank Vatrano
Jackson LaCombe — Drew Helleson
Olen Zellweger — Jacob Trouba
Pavel Mintyukov — Ian Moore
Lukas Dostal
There’s a lot of “bold” there!!
*Helleson was acquired by trading Ducks draft pick/player Josh Manson to Colorado.
*Gauthier was acquired by trading Ducks draft pick/player Jamie Drysdale to the Flyers.
*Poehling was acquired by trading Ducks draft pick/player Trevor Zegras to the Flyers.-martone will be a stud. IMO he will be the better overall player and have more of an impact than MM.
-nesbitt not exactly lighting it up.
– amico is the 6/7th dman and not getting many minutes. he would have been better served playing juniors 1 year getting top minutes then head to college
– the rest ok starts nothing special so far. see what happens at by the end of the year and the progress made.
* all except martone are years away if they pan out.
brick by brick
Thanks for sharing that, good read. The future is going to be exciting!! If the Flyers can just follow the lead of teams like Anaheim and or Arizona/Utah, good things will come. Just gotta keep building brick by brick like Anaheim did, and then when the time is right, add some good veterans and a quality NHL coach.
2015 – drafted Troy Terry
2018 – drafted Lukas Dostal
2019 – drafted Zegras & Jackson LaCombe
2020 – drafted Drysdale (traded for Cutter), Colangelo & Moore
2021 – drafted McTavish & Zellweger
2022 – drafted Pavel Mintyukov
2023 – drafted Leo Carlsson
2024 – drafted Beckett Sennecke & Stian Solberg
2025 – drafted Roger McQueenBrick by brick they laid down the foundation for a core and then eventually made some good trades and UFA signing, along with an NHL caliber coach. Their current success is 7 or 8 years in the making but they’ve got something nice going on there.
