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Flyers Youth Movement Starts With Them & Ends With Tocchet
If the Flyers lean into a youth movement, the question is how head coach Rick Tocchet goes about it. The critique of the coach throughout the season is how he deploys ice time, specifically, with Michkov and the other young skaters. Furthermore, he’s been quick to scratch younger players for mistakes or for not checking, which explains why Nikita Grebenhkin, another prospect in the system, has spent multiple games in the press box.As to the argument that Tocchet was the worst coach you could pick for the team, the above is argument #1. The Flyers main concern should be how to best evaluate and develop their young talent rather than focusing on continuing to lead the league in grinding out low scoring shoot out games in an attempt to get a few more points.
Tocchet was the guy they brought in to make the playoffs and entice elite talent FAs that Philly is a destination, not a roadstop. Both of which he has failed at. The least the Front office can do, the absolute least, is to find out what works out best with the kids.
Nobody is going to think less of Tocchet if accepts reality and cuts the kids some slack but of course he “has his own thoughts about that”.
Speaking of draft picks and the Rangers, how about Gabe Perrault. The consensus draft pick the Flyers should’ve picked instead of Bonk. Not that the Flyers need any more wingers but nobody thought Bonk was the better pick on draft day and who knows how things will be in 5 years but today, it’s looking really bad.
Bonk has yet to play in the NHL and Perrault looked pretty good last night against the Flyers.
https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/rangers-vs-flyers-fun-in-this-economy/
Some serious things, though. Gabe Perreault has looked like an actual man of late, specifically when Mike Sullivan was forced to play him as a top line player. He had a goal and an assist last night (he had another assist taken away as well), and his behind the back pass to Mika Zibanejad was a thing of true beauty. The kid has ridiculous vision on the ice, and to have the confidence to even attempt that pass let alone pull it off is something else. Good for him, man. Good for us, too.
You see quotes like that and you think, the Flyers were not the smartest guys in the room on draft day or when picking coaches.
Their focus has always been to lowkey make the playoffs and their fallback for failure is to keep repeating “rebuilding” to the public. Kind of a have your cake and eat it to. No accountability. Remember when they threw a bunch of money at Fedotov to come over and save their playoff dreams 2 years ago with 10 games left in the season? Good times.
Then Torts quit when he realized they weren’t going to make the playoffs last year and now Tocch, the coach that free agents want to play for, is hired to get them over the hump. I don’t really think DB should get credit for Martone because he was a reward for failure, they weren’t trying to be bad, they were kind of like the Leafs who thought they were better than they actually were but the Flyers still had their 1st rnd pick. And in the end Martone is a luxury, not a necessity. If Hagens or O’Brien, who were drafted immediately after Martone, succeed as #1 centers, this will go down as a miss for DB regardless of how well Martone does. You have to wonder, if the front office had known at the draft that their Tocchet luring FA elite talent to the Flyers super plan was going to fail, would they have drafted differently? Neither of the centers are 6’3″ like Martone though so probably not. Being the biggest is the #1 attribute they were looking for.
none of that changes the fact he has regressed and done jack shit. 2 teams have moved on from him, why?
post the flyers winning %
I just explained it to you, you fucking idiot. Bill Guerin explained it to you. You know far less about hockey than me let alone Guerin. He was buried with a team deep on D.
The Flyers, despite their horrific 2-8-4 stretch, are on pace for 92 points. Two teams made the playoffs last year with 92 points. The weather is getting nicer. Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass and enjoy it.
I hate to get in the middle of you 2 arguing but this take aged horribly in less than 24 hours.
This team isn’t making the playoffs and I hope, while not yet mathematically eliminated, the game last night was the final nail in the reality of that.
The Rangers are probably pissed that the Flyers are ruining their tank.
I agree in the sense that I don’t see an identifiable plan about what identity they are establishing and who will be the nucleus to emerge down the middle (both at C and D).
Thank you! This is what we’ve been saying all year! Not sure why it took 62 games to admit this. Even the Flyers postgame came out and said this team is cooked (once they determined they shouldn’t be playing the 76ers music).
Vladar has been covering up a directionless team all year. When he’s off they lose. When he’s really off, they lose big.
Can we also admit that Jones’s plan to buy C1, C2, and D1 in free agency this year was not so much a plan as a wish list? They don’t have a backup plan.
I still don’t see what they were thinking when they hired Tocchet, other than they thought they were able to go to the playoffs this year and, going back to my previous statement on FA, that the elite talent would want to flock to PHI to play for Tocch.
Good news. The Flyers may be down 3-0 to a tanking team after 1 period and they were outshot but what’s important is that they outhit the Rangers 17-7. The Flyers way.
It’s just funny to hear that choice of words, “Mich wants to try it.” Yeah no shit he “wants to try it.” That’s where he’s played his entire life and that’s where he’s been at his best, playing on the right as a left-handed player. Saying that Michkov wants to try playing where he’s always played is like saying that Shaquille O’Neal wants to try playing center, or Zack Wheeler wants to try pitching.
Matvei Michkov is back on the right side, and it appears it’s because of the Flyers front office
“Bobby leaving and then Mich wants to try it. We will see. I have my thoughts on that, but we will see how it goes,” Flyers’ Head Coach Rick Tocchet said yesterday.
I mean, from the looks of this, the Flyers front office had seemingly stepped in and told Tocchet to put Michkov back on the right side. Obviously, Tocchet It has reservations about such, and this is not the first time the front office has had to step in and tell him to either play the young kids, or the front office stepping in to cure a PR disaster about Michkov.
I’m guessing if Michkov sticks on the right side Bill’s head will explode because he’s spent a lot of time defending Tocchet putting Michkov on the left.
I will say, and the Flyers still absolutely lose that game without Vladar, that the lineup for the Penguin game was probably the best in terms of putting the players where they should be for development and evaluation all year. The kind of game you want to see from a rebuilding team.
Currently, he does suck. He was also behind Zeev Buium for the 1st part of the year who had no problem cracking the lineup. If you are saying he doesn’t, you are the only one. He is a lottery ticket. He was traded for Brink while Buium was traded for norris winning defenseman Quinn Hughes. Much like Jett, the league doesn’t view him that highly.
Jiricek, in his second trade in two years, is a 2022 top ten pick who has struggled recently. He is a big, right-shot defenseman with good hands and some offensive touch. He’s not an overly smart puck-mover, though, and has below-average mobility for the NHL. As a teenager, he was known for his grit/physical play, but that hasn’t been as noticeable in North America. He still has a good chance of being a 4/5 defenseman in the NHL but those odds are starting to fade a bit.
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He’s still 22, so I’m not gonna completely write him off, but I’m not a believer in him developing into a top-four defenseman. I’d even be somewhat surprised if he becomes a solid No.5 — I think there’s a chance that he never becomes an NHL regular.Do you know of anyone who has a more positive projection of Jiri?
The dreams of an impact defenseman should be dead. His upside is Nick Seeler which is still useful. Most lottery tickets don’t cash but let’s hope this one does.
He is a reclamation project, nothing more, which is better than the Flyers getting a mid round draft pick. I wish Brink the best and he is in a much better situation than he was here.
