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ParticipantGood news. The Flyers may be down 3-0 to a tanking team after 1 period and they were outshot but what’s important is that they outhit the Rangers 17-7. The Flyers way.
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ParticipantIt’s just funny to hear that choice of words, “Mich wants to try it.” Yeah no shit he “wants to try it.” That’s where he’s played his entire life and that’s where he’s been at his best, playing on the right as a left-handed player. Saying that Michkov wants to try playing where he’s always played is like saying that Shaquille O’Neal wants to try playing center, or Zack Wheeler wants to try pitching.
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ParticipantMatvei Michkov is back on the right side, and it appears it’s because of the Flyers front office
“Bobby leaving and then Mich wants to try it. We will see. I have my thoughts on that, but we will see how it goes,” Flyers’ Head Coach Rick Tocchet said yesterday.
I mean, from the looks of this, the Flyers front office had seemingly stepped in and told Tocchet to put Michkov back on the right side. Obviously, Tocchet It has reservations about such, and this is not the first time the front office has had to step in and tell him to either play the young kids, or the front office stepping in to cure a PR disaster about Michkov.
I’m guessing if Michkov sticks on the right side Bill’s head will explode because he’s spent a lot of time defending Tocchet putting Michkov on the left.
I will say, and the Flyers still absolutely lose that game without Vladar, that the lineup for the Penguin game was probably the best in terms of putting the players where they should be for development and evaluation all year. The kind of game you want to see from a rebuilding team.
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ParticipantCurrently, he does suck. He was also behind Zeev Buium for the 1st part of the year who had no problem cracking the lineup. If you are saying he doesn’t, you are the only one. He is a lottery ticket. He was traded for Brink while Buium was traded for norris winning defenseman Quinn Hughes. Much like Jett, the league doesn’t view him that highly.
Jiricek, in his second trade in two years, is a 2022 top ten pick who has struggled recently. He is a big, right-shot defenseman with good hands and some offensive touch. He’s not an overly smart puck-mover, though, and has below-average mobility for the NHL. As a teenager, he was known for his grit/physical play, but that hasn’t been as noticeable in North America. He still has a good chance of being a 4/5 defenseman in the NHL but those odds are starting to fade a bit.
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He’s still 22, so I’m not gonna completely write him off, but I’m not a believer in him developing into a top-four defenseman. I’d even be somewhat surprised if he becomes a solid No.5 — I think there’s a chance that he never becomes an NHL regular.Do you know of anyone who has a more positive projection of Jiri?
The dreams of an impact defenseman should be dead. His upside is Nick Seeler which is still useful. Most lottery tickets don’t cash but let’s hope this one does.
He is a reclamation project, nothing more, which is better than the Flyers getting a mid round draft pick. I wish Brink the best and he is in a much better situation than he was here.
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ParticipantEveryone they shipped out was under 6′ (except for ND and his trade was pretty much doing the vet a favor) and everyone they acquired (including AHL player swap) is over 6′. This goes back to the draft where they did the same thing. They don’t necessarily want to get more talented, they just want to get BIGGER.
The Flyers have decided that their problems aren’t that they aren’t talented enough, it’s that they aren’t big and physical enough. They also play a low event style of hockey that is boring but also, in theory, doesn’t take talent to execute. The big guys can provide the entertainment by hitting people to offset Tocchet hockey putting the fans asleep.
That Mammoth game was, win or lose, a game that nobody in their right mind would pay to watch and that is the essence of Tocchet hockey. 16 SOG. The Flyers have really struggled with SOG this year and part of that is Tocchet. The Flyers went from 26th SOG and 25th SOG against and made both worse falling to 29th in both categories. How do you take a bad team and make it worse? Thank god the fans have Gritty to entertain fans at games because it sure as heck isn’t the on ice product.
Brink has a brighter future ahead of him than Jiricek but he was small so that made him expendable. Jiri has all the physical attributes that make the Flyers thirsty but (hell MIN traded an entire draft worth of picks for him just a year ago) but can’t skate or play hockey and the Flyers wonder why they are never happy no matter how many tall guys they date. Brink was always going to get traded but should have a long and happy career. Hell he’s going to the playoffs with a good team, two things you can’t say about the Flyers. Jiricek has a long road just to be a 3rd pair dman which is why the Flyers got him for a song. The trade was fine as Jiri has a better chance of becoming an NHL regular than anyone the Flyers would pick with a draft pick they would’ve gotten. It was the best bad choice they had.
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Participantalways about size skill rarly ever gets mentioned. Where does this put Hunter Mac lol
“That kind of came in yesterday,” Briere said. “We started thinking of the chance to add a big young, strong defenseman like David. We felt that was a good opportunity for us to look towards the future, add hopefully another big piece down the road to our D corps. Adding the size and we’ve talked about that — you guys have asked me the questions about the smallish defensemen before — and I get it too, it’s reality. That was we felt a good swing to take on a promising young defenseman. So that was the reason behind the Bobby Brink trade.
The Flyers have really been size queens over the last year. They are looking for a man over 6′ period, everything else is secondary. That does explaining giving a 30 yr old 3rd line center a 5 year contract w/full NTC. Can’t let those 6′ guys go no matter what.
Even the AHL trade, they traded 2 players under 6′ for 2 players over 6′.
Could the Flyers be any more thirsty.
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Participanthttps://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/flyers_to_retain_rasmus_ristolainen/s1_14825_43559945
Multiple reports indicated Philly was looking for the same return the Bruins received from the Maple Leafs for Brandon Carlo at last year’s deadline. That package included a first-round pick, a fourth-round pick, and an A/B-tier prospect in Fraser Minten.
Could that trade have aged any worse for the Leafs or any better for the Bruins? That trade is part of the reason the Bruins are going to the playoffs with the Leafs likely Top 10 draft pick while the leafs are in the lottery without a 1st. All of Treliving’s trade deadline trades from last year have aged poorly enough that most GMs would be fired. It’s like looking at Chuck Fletcher’s trades and thinking they were the gold standard.
The Scott Laughton trade was just as bad, a year later they shipped out “The Room” and his 4th line 12 pts for a conditional 3rd.
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ParticipantNo needle moving trades today. Playoff Risto is dead. Did DB overvalue him or just didn’t want to trade him? The Flyers media wouldn’t shut up about how in demand he was. He will finish out his contract with the Flyers never having seen the playoffs in his career but at least he can watch Buffalo in the playoffs.
Jiri is one of the worst skaters in professional hockey who doesn’t seem to have a lot of hockey sense. Thank god he is 6′ 200lbs and a RH. He was born to be a Flyer. He doesn’t have a lot else going for him right now. Let’s hope they can coach him up.
Congrats to Brink and ND for getting out of this never ending cycle of mediocrity.
https://x.com/FlyersNation/status/2016891645791256924
The letter to STH just keeps looking more and more like a clown show every day.
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ParticipantDeslauriers traded to the Canes for a conditional 7th round pick. I wonder what the condition is? LOL
Probably that ND scores a hat trick in game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals. j/k.
It was a 2027 7th as well. I’m just glad he’s off the roster. Unfortunately i can’t say the same for Risto. Risto will retire a flyer while never seeing the playoffs (although i’m told he’s built for the playoffs).
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ParticipantThey better get to work and get Jiricek a skating coach. Dude skates like he has one leg. The franchise has done pretty well with guys who were drafted as poor skaters. Foerster and Brink come to mind.
https://www.nhl.com/nhl-edge/skaters/tyson-foerster-8482159
Avg NHL max skating speed 22.14 mph (fwd)/21.57 (D)
Foerster 20.9
Brink 23.3
Jiricek 20.1 (oof!)Not sure how slow he was before but Foerster is till fairly bad. Yea Jiri’s skating is very bad.
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ParticipantAbsolute steal. Big 22 YO RHD with Top 4 potential for a small .5 PPG depth winger who was odd man out anyway. If they don’t do anything else, I’m satisfied.
Steal? No. It isn’t horrible though. It was fair value for a failed draft pick on his 3rd team in 2 years. His ceiling is 4/5, not any higher so most likely 3rd pair. That is if he makes it to the NHL as a regular. He is big and 22 and RH but you actually need to show that he can play and he hasn’t shown that since the draft. His development has completely stalled.
Even a 3rd pair RH dman has a better future on this team than Brink did long term so it was decent risk to take. Let’s hope he hits his ceiling, otherwise he’s just more AHL fodder.
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ParticipantUtah currently holds the upper wildcard playoff spot in the Western Conference. The lower wilcard team, the Seattle Kraken, trail the Mammoth by a single point. Just below the cutoff line for the Western Conference playoffs, the San Jose Sharks are five points (four standings points, tiebreaker disadvantage) behind the Mammoth but have played two fewer games.
It should be embarrassing for the Flyers that expansion teams, teams that recently tanked, and the team formerly known as the Phoenix Coyotes are passing the Flyers. Where would you rank the Flyers among the 4 teams for the future? Embarrassing.
They hire a fitness coach a month before the season ends but have had a fight coach ever since Tocchet was hired. Tocchet whose system is the most boring basic dump and chase system in hockey. It wasn’t great hockey when they won and it’s even more unwatchable when they lose.
Great decision making and should tell you all you need to know about the Flyers thinking. For all the talk of playoffs among the Flyers front office this team has not improved since last year, in fact i would say they’ve regressed since the beginning of the season and all of the Tocchet “the player” hero worshipping by the media isn’t going to change that.
This team is and always has been one Vladar LTIR or losing whatever mojo he found this year from finishing bottom 5, even Bill will admit the way they won was not sustainable. The team needed/needs clear headed roster evaluation in relation to the long term goal, not save my job for another season thinking. Maybe they should’ve held off on that season ticket holder letter that focused on the playoffs.
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ParticipantAll that matters right now is the bottom line.
If your goal is to make the playoffs, that is true. They got the 2 points but realistically it was two bad teams playing and one of them had to get 2 points. The game was pretty hard to watch. I do not see the Flyers being sellers at this point.
The Leafs are totally checked out, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Berube gone before the end of the season. That was as lifeless a team as I’ve seen and on a 4 game losing streak that figures to get longer. There was one point during a power play where they couldn’t even complete open passes with one bouncing off a stick and creating a shorthanded flyers chance.
With the playoffs pretty much gone the Leafs are in hell. They don’t even control their 1st round pick unless they get into the top 5 and yesterday’s point just twists the dagger a little more. Imagine trading Minten and a top 10 pick for Brandon Carlo.
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Participantberube will be the next flyers coach.
He was already hired by Paul Holmgren to be the Flyers head coach back in the day. It would be the most Flyers thing imaginable if the Flyers recycled not only an exflyer but an exFlyer HC. Maybe just kick him upstairs to team president instead, I hear that’s a no show job.
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