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The Flyers are one of the worst teams in the league only being kept on life support due to playing to get to the shoot out every game. They lead the league in number of shoot outs and shoot out wins. 2 things which will not happen in the playoffs. They play boring low event hockey (that can’t be questioned because Tocchet is god apparently).
SOW..SOL…G…..GA….DIFF..PP%…PK%…S/GP..S%…SA/GP..SV%
1st..20th..26th..15th..20th..32nd..21st..30th..17th..29th..25thOther than Vladar’s numbers, everything across the board is worse than last year but a segment of the fan base wants to stick their fingers in their ears because the Flyers aren’t eliminated yet. Another game where the Flyers didn’t deserve to make it to the shoot out. What is it now, 3 goal in 23 OT? None of them scored by Konecny, Tippet, Zegras, risto, drysdale.
How do you fall to 30th in SOG (29th in Shots against) and think the team is headed in the right direction?
Mission Critical should be drafting as high as possible.
Bettman instituted the current OT/shoot out rules to keep teams that would normally be eliminated by February in the playoff hunt to keep asses in the seats. Gate revenue is king in the NHL. The Flyers are one of those teams that benefits the most from that. Some of the most boring low event hockey in the league. Another under 20 SOG game. Nobody has gone to the shoot out more than the Flyers
2025
SOW..SOL…G…..GA….DIFF..PP%…PK%…S/GP..S%…SA/GP..SV%
1st..18th..24th..28th..29th..30th..20th..26th..17th..25th..32nd2026
SOW..SOL…G…..GA….DIFF..PP%…PK%…S/GP..S%…SA/GP..SV%
1st..20th..26th..15th..20th..32nd..21st..30th..17th..29th..25thThe Flyers are a worse team by almost every metric other than SV% and while it is nice to see that improve it is almost solely due to Vladar’s career year and not sustainable. SOG fell to 30th, SOG/against fell to 29th. PP is back to last in the league, where it belongs. Other than giving up fewer goals this team has regressed almost across the board with Shoot Out wins the only thing giving Tocchet truthers any hope.
A competent front office would not be in this situation year after year. How many NHL hall of shame records have been set under Fletcher and now Briere? The Front office whose only plan was to buy elite talent in FA this year which has already admittedly failed.
I thought it couldn’t get worse than Torts, be careful what you wish for. Even Tocchet’s press conferences sound incomprehensible half the time.
What an asshole and one of Tocchet’s best buds.
Bill, any chance you’d call out anybody in the media for being an asshole?
Long term the shoot out wins don’t help the Flyers but playing/developing the kids do. No team plays for the shootout as much as the Flyers.
How about a shoutout to Andrae, the forgotten Flyers defenseman, scoring an important regulation goal for the Flyers.
not going to get on them for letting him walk. didn’t they have to qualify him which was much more than league min?
just find it funny he was on waivers then month later key to a flyers trade
https://sports.yahoo.com/article/flyers-letting-jakob-pelletier-clear-220505900.html
$840k vs the $775k that Tampa is paying him. Not really much of a difference but even Tampa waived him again at the beginning of the season. Good for him for having a good year in the AHL.
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/philadelphia-flyers/latest-news/ex-flyers-forward-dominating-the-ahl
Seems like the Flyers totally screwed up with Pelletier. Not that he was ever going to be a great NHLer but for league minimum to lead the AHL team and to have available for callup it was a missed opportunity.
Flyers Youth Movement Starts With Them & Ends With Tocchet
If the Flyers lean into a youth movement, the question is how head coach Rick Tocchet goes about it. The critique of the coach throughout the season is how he deploys ice time, specifically, with Michkov and the other young skaters. Furthermore, he’s been quick to scratch younger players for mistakes or for not checking, which explains why Nikita Grebenhkin, another prospect in the system, has spent multiple games in the press box.As to the argument that Tocchet was the worst coach you could pick for the team, the above is argument #1. The Flyers main concern should be how to best evaluate and develop their young talent rather than focusing on continuing to lead the league in grinding out low scoring shoot out games in an attempt to get a few more points.
Tocchet was the guy they brought in to make the playoffs and entice elite talent FAs that Philly is a destination, not a roadstop. Both of which he has failed at. The least the Front office can do, the absolute least, is to find out what works out best with the kids.
Nobody is going to think less of Tocchet if accepts reality and cuts the kids some slack but of course he “has his own thoughts about that”.
Speaking of draft picks and the Rangers, how about Gabe Perrault. The consensus draft pick the Flyers should’ve picked instead of Bonk. Not that the Flyers need any more wingers but nobody thought Bonk was the better pick on draft day and who knows how things will be in 5 years but today, it’s looking really bad.
Bonk has yet to play in the NHL and Perrault looked pretty good last night against the Flyers.
https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/rangers-vs-flyers-fun-in-this-economy/
Some serious things, though. Gabe Perreault has looked like an actual man of late, specifically when Mike Sullivan was forced to play him as a top line player. He had a goal and an assist last night (he had another assist taken away as well), and his behind the back pass to Mika Zibanejad was a thing of true beauty. The kid has ridiculous vision on the ice, and to have the confidence to even attempt that pass let alone pull it off is something else. Good for him, man. Good for us, too.
You see quotes like that and you think, the Flyers were not the smartest guys in the room on draft day or when picking coaches.
Their focus has always been to lowkey make the playoffs and their fallback for failure is to keep repeating “rebuilding” to the public. Kind of a have your cake and eat it to. No accountability. Remember when they threw a bunch of money at Fedotov to come over and save their playoff dreams 2 years ago with 10 games left in the season? Good times.
Then Torts quit when he realized they weren’t going to make the playoffs last year and now Tocch, the coach that free agents want to play for, is hired to get them over the hump. I don’t really think DB should get credit for Martone because he was a reward for failure, they weren’t trying to be bad, they were kind of like the Leafs who thought they were better than they actually were but the Flyers still had their 1st rnd pick. And in the end Martone is a luxury, not a necessity. If Hagens or O’Brien, who were drafted immediately after Martone, succeed as #1 centers, this will go down as a miss for DB regardless of how well Martone does. You have to wonder, if the front office had known at the draft that their Tocchet luring FA elite talent to the Flyers super plan was going to fail, would they have drafted differently? Neither of the centers are 6’3″ like Martone though so probably not. Being the biggest is the #1 attribute they were looking for.
none of that changes the fact he has regressed and done jack shit. 2 teams have moved on from him, why?
post the flyers winning %
I just explained it to you, you fucking idiot. Bill Guerin explained it to you. You know far less about hockey than me let alone Guerin. He was buried with a team deep on D.
The Flyers, despite their horrific 2-8-4 stretch, are on pace for 92 points. Two teams made the playoffs last year with 92 points. The weather is getting nicer. Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass and enjoy it.
I hate to get in the middle of you 2 arguing but this take aged horribly in less than 24 hours.
This team isn’t making the playoffs and I hope, while not yet mathematically eliminated, the game last night was the final nail in the reality of that.
The Rangers are probably pissed that the Flyers are ruining their tank.
I agree in the sense that I don’t see an identifiable plan about what identity they are establishing and who will be the nucleus to emerge down the middle (both at C and D).
Thank you! This is what we’ve been saying all year! Not sure why it took 62 games to admit this. Even the Flyers postgame came out and said this team is cooked (once they determined they shouldn’t be playing the 76ers music).
Vladar has been covering up a directionless team all year. When he’s off they lose. When he’s really off, they lose big.
Can we also admit that Jones’s plan to buy C1, C2, and D1 in free agency this year was not so much a plan as a wish list? They don’t have a backup plan.
I still don’t see what they were thinking when they hired Tocchet, other than they thought they were able to go to the playoffs this year and, going back to my previous statement on FA, that the elite talent would want to flock to PHI to play for Tocch.
