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Lawsie
ParticipantHague trade brings in Sissons (another bottom 6C). Roy to Toronto seems more likely.
hope it happens with Marner involved. But I could see it happening as a trade also on its own.
Preds are going to suck for a while, why are they paying 3rd pair that much?
Ya, not sure. They look like they’re doing the Blackhawks thing (surrounding elite young players with overpaid vets) but without the elite young players. Someone needs to rescue Josi.
Lawsie
ParticipantHague trade brings in Sissons (another bottom 6C). Roy to Toronto seems more likely.
Lawsie
ParticipantOk, I’m coming around on signing Marchand. Leafs need to bump Kampf and Jarnkrok off the ship after bonus day and if they do they’ll have about 19M to spend on a top 6 FWD and 4 bottom 6 replacements. Nab Roy as one of the pieces and you’ve still got 16M to spend. Sign Marchand to bigger money, shorter term (b/c they really don’t need to back end it and lower the AAV). Spend some money on good 1 yr deals on the 4th line.
If the dust settles this week and the lineup looks like …
Marchand-Matthews-Nylander
Knies-Tavares-McMann
Domi-Laughton-Roy
3 Heavy forechecking types…….I’m good. Maybe drop Laughton down a line and spend on another good 3rd liner.
Lawsie
ParticipantAnd I like the little tampering “leak” Mr. Tree. Well played.
Lawsie
ParticipantForget marchand. What a waste of money he would be on the leafs.
Hes effective as a 3rd liner on a mi e with other good third liners. On the leafs, he’d play second line against tougher comp and wouldnt be as effective.
Use the $8-9m on something else.Agreed. Marchand can go cash in somewhere else.
He took a discount to stay with the bruins and now that he has this cup, why should he take another discount somewhere else? I’m sure someone will pay him $8 million but not the leafs (I hope). I do think if he wants to stay in Florida he takes a discount though.
I don’t mind a bit of an overpay but not for 4 years[/quote]
I wouldn’t do 4 years at that number either. I assume that’s coming from his camp. I like the idea of signing him over someone like Boeser but I’m thinking his value should be something more like $9M for two years then you tack on a couple low # yrs to lower the AAV. Maybe that get’s you down to 3x7M or 4x6M. If he doesn’t take it …move on.
Frankly I don’t hate the top 6 starting off like ..
Domi-Matthews-Nylander
Knies-JT-McMannSpend some money on building up the bottom 6 on top of Laughton and Roy. Maybe shake up the D with a puck mover.
Lawsie
ParticipantBruce Garrioch
@SunGarrioch
There is talk amongst league executives that Leafs have asked for Nicolas Roy and Nicolas Hague in return. It will be interesting to see if this happens.Would be a good bit of business if they get anything more than a 3rd rounder for his rights. Could we get Vegas to take Reaves or Kampf back too ….please?
Lawsie
ParticipantFriegebomb!
Marner to Vegas ….working on trade with Leafs to get rights.
Maybe just a pick next year ….Roy or Howden wouldn’t suck. Something bigger …Karlsson coming this way?
Maybe a 3rd so they can sign him to an 8 year deal and then trade him 3 years from now.
Friedman saying Nic Roy included ..if it gets done. Big 3C fits.
Ya, hopefully he gets Vegas’d in a year or two and ends up in Shitsville.
Apparently he veto’d a few trades over the last year. Isles offered Dobson …Canes Rantanen. I think he’s been planning to end up in Vegas since last summer.
Lawsie
ParticipantFriegebomb!
Marner to Vegas ….working on trade with Leafs to get rights.
Maybe just a pick next year ….Roy or Howden wouldn’t suck. Something bigger …Karlsson coming this way?
Lawsie
ParticipantAssuming Knies comes back at about ~ 7M the Leafs would have about 20.5M to spend with defence and g’tending filled out and …
Domi-Matthews-Nylander
Knies-JT-McMann
XXX-Laughton-XXXI don’t hate that top 6 to start. If Marner is walking and Marchand is too long/expensive then save your bullets for the trade deadline to add to the top 6. Spend a bunch on some really good 3rd liners. Maybe improve the D. Weaponize that cap space.
Lawsie
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Leafs getting Marchand?!?!?!? Seems like an overpay, but…I heard 4 x $9m….absolutely horrible imo. Marchand played great in Florida because he was on the 3rd line with other good players, facing lesser comp. Here he will be 2nd or top line facing stiffer comp.
Also, they moved away from marner’s 10.9 or soon to be 13 to spend 9m of it on a 36 year old? WTF.Horrible if true.
Hope its not.I agree …$9 over 4 years is too much. Two years …fine. But year 3 and 4 have to see that number drop. 9,9,5,1 = $6Mx4 …that’d feel a lot better.
Also – Marchand wasn’t really sheltered. His most common match ups against the Leafs were 88 and 91 and against the Oilers were McJesus and Draisatl. That Lundell/Marchand line got some of the most difficult assignments and they generally kicked ass.
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