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August 17, 2025 at 8:07 pm in reply to: Mike Fink — Ranking the NHL Rebuilds Closest to Contention — Flyers (6th) #21616
VonZipper
ParticipantRanked 6th out of how many rebuilds? Either way, his grades seem overly generous for a team that finished last in their division, and here’s why I think that way…
Overall Rebuild Grade B What exactly has been rebuilt? I still don’t see a heck of a lot of high-end talent in the pipeline. You’d think finishing outside the playoffs each of the past 4 seasons would have netted a couple of exciting prospects, but alas, there’s only Porter Martone to show for their woes.
Overall Roster C+ This may be the only realistic grade on this list, though I’d drop it just based on the below-average defense and the abysmal goaltending.
Prospect Pool A- This one puzzles me. With the exception of Michkov (who’s already on the NHL roster) and Martone falling into their laps, where does such a high rating come from? There’s no top defenseman nor is there a top center in the system, and we all know the Flyers goaltending prospects have been mostly disappointing for 3 1/2 decades now.
Head Coach & General Manager B Really don’t get this one either. The trades Briere has made have pretty much been no-brainers. There are other trades he should have made, but like the two GMs before him, there just doesn’t seem to be any creativity in trying to improve the roster with the few assets that could fetch something of significance (more than late round draft picks) in return. And don’t get me started on continuing the tradition of making the “safe pick” (outside of Michkov & Martone, has there been any attempt to swing for the fences?). As for the HC, where’s the hot goaltender to bail him out? Tocchet’s record without one is more of what the Flyers have experienced over the past 4 seasons. A .448 career winning percentage is not overly inspiring to me (and don’t use the “bad teams” excuse because that’s what he’s inheriting in Philly).
I’ve watched this team for far too long to think they’re setting themselves up for success right now. All I’m seeing is an unwillingness to learn from the repeated mistakes of the past decade.
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ParticipantAugust 12, 2025 at 2:31 pm in reply to: Meltzer — Flyers: Zegras Deep Dive (Risk, Reward, Cap Outlook, and More) #20738VonZipper
ParticipantIs there any chance that a team trying to get to the salary cap floor, takes the Ellis contract off our hands? I guess there is always a chance, but what is the likelihood? Is it too costly? Too many years left?
Guessing there’s little to no hope the Ellis contract is traded, because 1) how many teams still need to get to the floor and 2) the Carey Price contract is far more attractive (as of September 1) as a team can get a 10.5M hit vs. 800K actual salary.
Plus, as Bill already mentioned, the Flyers don’t want to give up assets to move that contract, nor would it make sense for a “rebuilding” team to do so.
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ParticipantAs pointed out, what would be best isn’t an option.
I really don’t think he’s any more ready for the NHL game now than he was at the start of last season, and it’s hard to develop a player at the NHL level if he’s only seeing 10-12 minutes a night, especially if he’s not playing in every game. There’s a lot of potential for a black eye this front office really can’t afford right now… question is, can they resist the temptation?
While having him play in the juniors isn’t really going to benefit him either, this really comes off as a lose/lose situation in terms of Luchanko’s development.
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Participant@bill-meltzer and this is why he’s the only one who posts here.
Is it that difficult for you to ignore him?
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ParticipantNo more Chuck. Much more to his career than just this song, but this is the one everyone will know.
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ParticipantNo more Ozzy.
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ParticipantBill, I haven’t been paying close attention lately but I see there is a new CBA agreement. I heard in passing that there is a cap in the play-offs now?? Is there indeed one?
Any other highlights to mention? Anything new with players going to college (i.e. Cutter)?Here’s Bill’s rundown on the new CBA: https://hockeyhotstove.com/forums/topic/new-cba/
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ParticipantThere are five teams in the conference that are already playoff locks: FLA, CAR, TOR, WSH, TB. The Flyers are light years away from being better than those teams. The rest of the conference is not that great. MTL, on paper, looks improved. NYR will get a boost from roster moves and Sullivan . . . or not. OTT ran a nice end season hot streak into the playoffs. NJ isn’t the team of the future as some predicted. The rest of the conference sucks worse than the Flyers.
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Unfortunately, the Flyers offered no proof of that last season.
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