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what’s the flyers goal after yesterday? what is the plan? they sign guys who will really not improve the team. they are still going to be bad. why not then just evaluate what you have in-house. keep the cap space to for down the line to see if any deals pop up or to broker a deal to get additional assets/players back.
just more spinning in the hamster wheel.
Have to appreciate a franchise that spends to the cap ceiling just to finish last in their division.
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Vladar 1 of 5Flyers crack goaltending coaches and team doctors will fix him tho. — Tomahawk
Vladar has averaged 25 games per season in the 4 years he’s been an NHL regular, with the highest total being 30 games. Hell, his career high was 41 games for an ECHL team back in 2017/18. Based on the averages he’s had as an NHL regular (and his career high), is giving Ersson somewhere in the area of 50-60 games really “sharing the load?”
I get it, the pickings were slim. But based on the information above, throwing the money they did at what on the surface appears to be another below average goaltender doesn’t seem overly wise.
but i get it: flyers bad. — black_francis
Well, their record over the past decade pretty much tells us this, but hey, business as usual!
Depends on the guy. Will his leaving after 25-26 create a hole they’ll have to refill again next summer? I don’t think there’s a goalie out there I’d be confident enough in to go beyond 2-3 years. A lot of guys, RFA and UFA have gotten taken off the block through trading and resigning. I’d go 4-5 years on either the right Dman or goalie but I’m not sure either of those guys is available. I was a little off on my dead space number. It’s $6-7M. So basically, if Zegras delivers in 25-26, you can reup him with what is dead money this year and have what his current cap hit is, which is $5.75M, to do other things. Think about that. How is that an issue? The Flyers have cap money to play with this year and I’ll start thinking more deeply about next off season if and when they fall out of playoff contention. When you’re building, starting with the foundation, then doing the framing and so on isn’t kicking the can down the road. It’s how that happens.
When you have no long-term plan, especially when trying to build something, you’re merely kicking the can down the road.
Super home town discount. At $6.1M for a really solid Dman, the Flyers could still add a $2.5M goalie, fill their two biggest holes and look very interesting going into this season.
Problem with that line of thinking is no one is giving a bottom-feeder a home town discount.
<p data-userway-font-size=”12″ style=”transition: all; font-size: 15px !important;” data-userway-s4-bigger-text-styled=”true”>The Flyers don’t have the cap space for that deal. They do have the space to fill a couple glaring holes, roughly $9M. You can get a couple $4.5M guys for that. $7-8M in dead space goes away in 26 plus the cap increase, they could be bigger game hunters next July 1.
I’m curious as to the long-term plan for your proposed fix.
Are we talking 1 year deals to fix these couple glaring holes? If so, what sort of player do you think you’ll get on a 1 year, $4.5M (or whatever amount you’re comfortable with) deal? Is it a player that actually fixes said glaring hole, or just another place holder?
As for the cap increase, are you hoping that Zegras poops the bed? Because if he plays up to the hopes the Flyers have for him, I can’t imagine he’ll take a deal for less than the $6.5M he’s making this year. Is that a scenario that has been planned for, if the Flyers let him walk should he ask for market value (assuming he’s what they hope he will be), and if so, what’s the plan for a top 6 center now? And this doesn’t even consider Matvei Michkov, who will be eligible for an extension at the end of next season, and will most likely be getting paid as well (guessing in the neighborhood of that “going away dead space,” if not more).
What I’m seeing in your post is more kicking the can down the road instead of having a long-term plan for success. And no, I’m not suggesting they become a playoff team this year (or the year after, for that matter), but if you improve the record slightly, you’re in a worse position in the next draft, and you end up repeating the cycle, just as the Flyers have done for over a decade now. Is repeating the same old mistakes acceptable?
<p data-userway-font-size=”12″ style=”transition: all; font-size: 15px !important;” data-userway-s4-bigger-text-styled=”true”>no complaints with martone pick at all ( do they try him at center?). no issue at all.
<p data-userway-font-size=”12″ style=”transition: all; font-size: 15px !important;” data-userway-s4-bigger-text-styled=”true”>trading the 2 late 1st to move up no problem. Taking nesbitt is very very questionable. dont like it at all. seems like the laughtchenko move. not high ceiling guys. flyers love taking 3rd line centers early in the draft. No way was Nesbitt the BPA. seems like an overpay.
<p data-userway-font-size=”12″ style=”transition: all; font-size: 15px !important;” data-userway-s4-bigger-text-styled=”true”>how many potential 3rd line center do the flyers have in their system now?
<p data-userway-font-size=”12″ style=”transition: all; font-size: 15px !important;” data-userway-s4-bigger-text-styled=”true”>watching “jonesy” grin like he is the smartest man in the room is pure entertainment. flyers always have to flyer at some point.
The more pressing question here… how many franchises would be willing to give up two late first round picks to get what will basically amount to a third line center? That is my main beef. It appears to be a massive overpayment for what the player is projected to become.
LOL – just let me have an exciting day, love the draft and the fact the Flyers have FINALLY put some stock into using it. — Flyers4Ever
Let’s just hope they are able to find quality in their quantity, and most importantly, be able to develop it.
