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A potential taker emerged: the Arizona Coyotes. The Coyotes offered ONLY to take Gostisbehere. In return, the Flyers had to accept “future considerations” (AKA no player or pick) and also had to include two Draft picks. Ultimately, the Coyotes “compromised” on 2022 second-round and seventh-round picks as the sweeteners.
The optics of the trade looked terrible. The Flyers had to deal an NHL roster offensive defenseman and two assets for nothing in return. Yes, cap space is an asset. Even so, the Flyers went into the deal knowing how bad it looked. They hoped Ellis would stay healthy. If he did, the team could easily withstand accepting the one-sided Gostisbehere deal.
The whole Ghost situation was pure incompetence from start to finish and nearly ended Ghost’s career. The team misused him on the ice and flogged him in the media daily to the point that he had no trade value. The best thing for his career was to get out of Philadelphia. The height of the “bias for action” era where the Flyers mistakenly thought that getting rid of Ghost and acquiring oft injured Ellis, Risto, and Yandle were the missing ingredients. There’s been entire books written on how bad the Risto trade/extension was but nobody got the Ghost treatment in the dumbassery in the media by the Flyers until Cutter Gauthier.
Who can forget the Flyers refusing to bench Yandle for 70+ games, despite him not even being a beer league defenseman at the time, because they promised to let him break the iron man streak. It was like wheeling grandpa out there. It was an embarrassing time to be a fan, even more so than now because in Yandle, they put the player before the rest of the team and the fans. Yet, Yandle was still shocked when, after he broke the streak, they benched him. In the end the Flyers made nobody happy and they were happy to do it.
Chuck never wondered why the oft injured defenseman Ryan Ellis was available for slightly more than a bag of pucks. Yea, it was more than that but the trade capital was way way way less than a healthy top pairing defenseman costs.
It’s hard to believe that members of the fanbase zealously defended Chuck’s boneheaded moves once upon a time. He usually lost both ends of trades and contracts but at least he always got his man. Usually the wrong man for 2x the term and no movement clause but he got him.
Also, regarding Price being a prototype, the answer is most likely no because, as you mentioned, his contract is not front loaded. It would have to be next offeseason and it would take much better sweeteners.
I always felt it was Vigneault who hated Ghost and wanted him gone. As was said, he wasn’t used correctly by AV, and playing on two bad legs didn’t help. Ironic AV was gone a short time later. I hated the trade then, I hate it even more now.
I always felt it was Vigneault who hated Ghost and wanted him gone. As was said, he wasn’t used correctly by AV, and playing on two bad legs didn’t help. Ironic AV was gone a short time later. I hated the trade then, I hate it even more now.
This is what I’ve always disliked about the “playing through injuries” mentality. If you play through injury but play poorly or if you get injured again because you didn’t take time to recover properly, that can end up defining you as a player and becomes your reputation.
Since Ghost left the Flyers he’s averaged 76+ games a year and roughly 50 points/yr and almost 20 min/game. His nearly 200 points over the last 4 years is more than any defenseman on the Flyers in that time period and they had to give ARI a 2nd and a 7th to take him off their hands.
That world class medical staff, coaching, and front office decision making the Flyers are known for. The Flyers way.
Fletcher didn’t get fired for being bad at his job, he got fired because the fans stopped coming to the games.
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