yes its me 2050 wrote:

flyers will do anything to justify playing nd. hope he is a lineup staple. he deters nothing. if I was a ” fighter” on the other team I wouldn’t even engage him, I would laugh at him at this stage.

2nd game of the preseason 2 weeks ago is a lot different than the regular season. Call up Grundy and say goodbye to ND. He’s not an NHL player at this point in his career and it’s not like he brings a wealth of playoff experience with a total of 5 games.

Reminds me a little bit of Keith Yandle in a Flyers uniform. Neither one of them should’ve been on any NHL team at the end of their careers. Yandle’s was worse though because it didn’t matter how bad and embarrassing he was, no matter how many games he cost them, the Flyers promised him that they would let him break the iron man streak. The exclamation point on a lost season and a middle finger to the paying fans who paid to see the best team iced, not a farewell tour for a player who overstayed his welcome by at least 2 years.

Chuck was so great at picking dmen .. yandle, Ellis, Risto, TDA. How did the Flyers not win a cup with these standouts? ND was another of those stellar signings.

Anyways, ND was a bad long term signing for a 4th line (with modified NTC) as an aging enforcer in a league moving away from fighting when he was signed and he’s even more useless now.

Edit : Fun Fact – The Flyers are paying ND almost as much in his mid 30s to sit on the bench and retire a flyer than he made during the previous 10 years combined.

flyers will do anything to justify playing nd.

Anyways, ND was a bad long term signing for a 4th line (with modified NTC) as an aging enforcer in a league moving away from fighting when he was signed and he’s even more useless now.

ND is playing vs. Florida, won’t play vs. CAR. Hope you’re not too disappointed. If you think the Flyers D looks bad, you should have watched Chicago’s yesterday. Knight in goal was the only thing that kept them from being blown out. Flyers had a respectable 1-1-1 record against FLA last year. FLA is banged up up front, Flyers are banged up on D. Should be fun.

Florida is loving it seeing his name in the lineup. As will every team. means flyers playing shorthanded. Just another archaic flyer failed philosophy. I am thrilled hope he plays a lot for pure entertainment purposes. Also hope no other team engages with him. He will be a great trade piece as teams will love to have a guy like him come playoff time right. maybe the flyers can get s 2nd rd pick.

I will take what Chicago has and is building over the flyers. Unlike the flyers they are rebuilding. They are willing to take their lumps. They will be back on the cup contention winning path before the flyers.

Who cares what their record was against them last year. Means nothing. Just like if they win all the games this year, means nothing. Flyer fans always try to find some shining light.

Deslauriers looked pretty uneven in camp. Bad game, OK game, bad game, OK game. He’s a role player. He’s not there to win you games. That’s what the top of the lineup is for. They need a little more scoring than they’ve been getting. Whatever chemistry is being built needs to turn into chemical reactions that turn into goals.

The Flyers haven’t taken their lumps the last three years? Chicago is still pretty bad and will be at least a couple more years. At least they got Knight in the Seth Jones trade to help in goal. They are nowhere near playoff contention let alone the Cup.

Then I guess the fact the Flyers went 0-3 for a combined score of 15-5 against Carolina last year doesn’t matter either.

FlyerFrank wrote:

Deslauriers looked pretty uneven in camp. Bad game, OK game, bad game, OK game. He’s a role player. He’s not there to win you games. That’s what the top of the lineup is for. They need a little more scoring than they’ve been getting. Whatever chemistry is being built needs to turn into chemical reactions that turn into goals.

The Flyers haven’t taken their lumps the last three years? Chicago is still pretty bad and will be at least a couple more years. At least they got Knight in the Seth Jones trade to help in goal. They are nowhere near playoff contention let alone the Cup.

Then I guess the fact the Flyers went 0-3 for a combined score of 15-5 against Carolina last year doesn’t matter either.

There’s a difference between pointlessly losing without a plan and losing with a plan. The Flyers are the former (as they have been absolutely trying to make the playoffs the last 3 years regardless of their PR campaign) and Chicago which is trying to win a Stanley Cup down the road.

#1 overall – Connor Bedard C
#2 overall – Artyom Levshunov D
#3 overall – Anton Frondell C

All potential franchise changing players at cornerstone positions you need to win the Stanley Cup. The Flyers have done zero building towards the Stanley Cup. Sure they’ve drafted some good wingers in Michkov and potentially Martone but without franchise players at the premium positions it’s all wasted. Chicago still has a ton of work to do to build a Stanley Cup contender but at least they are trying and have a farm system with higher end players than the Flyers. Quality to the Flyers quantity. Don’t confuse the Flyers trying to make the playoffs every year with who is further away from a Stanley Cup. It’s the Flyers.

This reminds me of the Penguins. They were derided for tanking for Crosby/Malkin but multiple Stanley Cups and 20 years later. Who is laughing at who?

FlyerFrank wrote:

Hahaha! Yeah, OK. ND is a role player, a designated fighter. Some teams still carry them. FLA dresses theirs pretty well every night plus a lot of other chippy players.

You indicated you think CHI is closer to cup contention than the Flyers. Why? Bedard? Frondell will be a good player for them eventually. The rest looks bad. Way worse than the Flyers.

Carolina proved to be a bad matchup last year. Flyers need to end that Saturday.

I think you mentioned earlier in the offseason that your only concern is the current year? If that’s the case, why do you care and keep talking about cup contention? The Flyers sure as hell aren’t winning it this year and you don’t care about what’s on the horizon.
Will the Flyers be better than Chicago this year? Probably. If that’s all you care about then you win.

Cup contention is a marathon, not a sprint.

I think you mentioned earlier in the offseason that your only concern is the current year? If that’s the case, why do you care and keep talking about cup contention? The Flyers sure as hell aren’t winning it this year and you don’t care about what’s on the horizon.
Will the Flyers be better than Chicago this year? Probably. If that’s all you care about then you win.

Cup contention is a marathon, not a sprint.

My only concern? I don’t remember that. I do want to see good, competitive hockey THIS year. How is that a bad thing? The biggest threat to that this year is injuries bunching up at a specific position. Depth is not a strength. There’s already cause for concern there with 2 of their top 4 Dmen down.

You want an ND “type” in the lineup fine. Get one who can play, contribute, and not hurt your team. Not a total stiff who offers nothing.

I said they will be contenders before the flyers. get back to me when I am proven wrong.

How many are out there? Olivier has made himself into a good player. Xhekaj is an adequate 3rd pair Dman. In the year 2057, pigs will fly. Get back to me when I’m proven wrong.

exactly, thanks for proving my point.

So you’re OK with a designated fighter if they can score 18 goals? Good to know.