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We’ll see Jett and Grebenkin. We know Coach Taco will look to juggle and match lines. CAR leans hard on the Aho line. After that, there’s a bigger drop off than with FLA. It will be interesting to see who the matchup is there. Dvorak and Couturier again? Practice lines will tell us. Slavin is the world class man on D for them. CAR was a bad matchup for the Flyers last year going 3-0 with a combined score of 15-5. I’m more concerned about this game than the FLA game last night.
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By his play Vladar should get this start, but I fully expect Ersson in net. At this rate, Zamula is playing his way out of the top 6 pretty quickly. Undrafted player, who deserves credit for getting this far in his career, but he is trending to be a very fringe 6th Dman. No need to be overly critical with the player, start pointing the finger at the organization cannot figure out a way to build a better top 6 blueline.
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By his play Vladar should get this start, but I fully expect Ersson in net. At this rate, Zamula is playing his way out of the top 6 pretty quickly. Undrafted player, who deserves credit for getting this far in his career, but he is trending to be a very fringe 6th Dman. No need to be overly critical with the player, start pointing the finger at the organization cannot figure out a way to build a better top 6 blueline.
after all these years they still cant draft/develop even bottom pair dman.
agree with vlader and zamula
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By his play Vladar should get this start, but I fully expect Ersson in net. At this rate, Zamula is playing his way out of the top 6 pretty quickly. Undrafted player, who deserves credit for getting this far in his career, but he is trending to be a very fringe 6th Dman. No need to be overly critical with the player, start pointing the finger at the organization cannot figure out a way to build a better top 6 blueline.
Agree about Vladar getting the start. Not so sure he won’t. Laughing about some “experts” calling starting Vladar a gutsy move. More like a no brainer. Zamula is already out of the healthy Top 6. More like the 8th D. Unfortunately, they aren’t healthy. As an 8th guy? He was ragged again last night but didn’t kill them out there. FLA made the extra shot.
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By his play Vladar should get this start, but I fully expect Ersson in net. At this rate, Zamula is playing his way out of the top 6 pretty quickly. Undrafted player, who deserves credit for getting this far in his career, but he is trending to be a very fringe 6th Dman. No need to be overly critical with the player, start pointing the finger at the organization cannot figure out a way to build a better top 6 blueline.
after all these years they still cant draft/develop even bottom pair dman.
agree with vlader and zamula
If a team cannot draft and develop prospects at a certain position, it does not have to be the end. Look no further then Vegas’s blueline. The key is for a regime not to over value the talent found within their organization. Use all available assets to improve the NHL first and foremost. This regime is entering year 3 with the expectation of being better then last season. The internal evaluation of all the players who have been on this roster or the AHL since they have taken over, should be done. Zegras trade was a nice start trying to improve the NHL roster. It may not work out, but I will at least give credit for Briere trying. He needs more of these trades to happen over the next year.
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If a team cannot draft and develop prospects at a certain position, it does not have to be the end. Look no further then Vegas’s blueline.
Look at any top team’s blue line. Draft for offense, acquire defense.
Panthers – Ekblad – #1 overall
oilers – Bouchard (10th overall), Nurse (7th overall)There’s your Stanley cup finals teams and looking back you will find similar results.
The majority of your blueline can be built through trades and signings but in general you need a cornerstone player that you drafted on defense. You also need players to trade that other teams want, do the Flyers have that? It is possible to get a player like CAR with Slavin in the later rounds but that was the exception, not the rule. He also has yet to make the Stanley Cup finals. Carolina also has an extremely productive analytic department and a good long term plan. It is really the only way to compete consistently if you are unwilling to make sacrifices and the Flyers front office/senior advisors have always put themselves above the team. The Flyers brass would kill to be CAR even if it doesn’t end up in a cup. Constantly a good team who makes the playoffs and they have very few poor contracts. DB could ride that to a successful career. Instead we get media blitzes and panic signings and an in over his head GM trying to justify the Jett reach pick and they call it a long term plan.
But hey, the Flyers are in the playoff mix and they are building brick by brick. I guess nobody is biting on New Era of Orange anymore.
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So when is it allowed to get more information on what is going on with Oliver Bonk. He seems like a pretty important prospect that needs to pan out. “Just two more weeks” is getting concerning.
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So when is it allowed to get more information on what is going on with Oliver Bonk. He seems like a pretty important prospect that needs to pan out. “Just two more weeks” is getting concerning.
The Flyers are their own worst enemy with their medical staff/updates.
It all started with what the Flyers believed was an injury that occurred during one of their pre-season matches. That was unknown to us until the end of October when Ellis surprisingly went from day-to-day to week-to-week. It wasn’t believed to be a serious injury, hence the day-to-day designation. Then all of a sudden, still without an explanation, general manager Chuck Fletcher announced that he was to week-to-week. Week-to-week then turned into 4-6 weeks at the beginning of November but it was speculated that surgery wasn’t required. At that point in time, Ellis had missed 10 of the last 11 games and there was still optimism that he’d be able to return in-and-around that timetable.
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Panthers – Ekblad – #1 overall
oilers – Bouchard (10th overall), Nurse (7th overall)There’s your Stanley cup finals teams and looking back you will find similar results.
Thanks for the superficial overview. Now look at the rest of the D.
Panthers: Jones-trade, Schmidt-FA, Kulikov-FA, Mikkola-FA, Forsling-waivers!!! WAIVERS!
Oilers: Walman-trade, Ekholm-trade, Klingberg-FA, Kulak-tradeDid Ekblad, Nurse or Bouchard play in 4 Nations? Sanheim did. Thanks for playing.
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Thanks for the superficial overview. Now look at the rest of the D.
Panthers: Jones-trade, Schmidt-FA, Kulikov-FA, Mikkola-FA, Forsling-waivers!!! WAIVERS!
Oilers: Walman-trade, Ekholm-trade, Klingberg-FA, Kulak-tradeDid Ekblad, Nurse or Bouchard play in 4 Nations? Sanheim did. Thanks for playing.
I literally said that it’s ok to trade or sign the rest of your defense if needed if you have the cornerstones and you went and listed trades and UFAs that were acquired? ummmm .. so thanks for proving my point? The cornerstone dmen that were DRAFTED still count.
Another aspect that we haven’t talked about is you have to be smart on who these waivers and traded players are that you select. You can’t be trading for or signing Risto or TDA players unless their cap hit and performance are right for your team. Like TDA at $1 mill was a good play for the Hurricanes because he was cheap and Slavin covered up his deficiencies. He was a bad fit for the Flyers because they paid him more than his on ice value, plus traded picks, plus not having a Slavin to help him out. So a team has to good talent evaluators to evaluate what they have, what they need, and what they should spend to acquire them. The Flyers absolutely have none of the above.
What’s the 4 nations have to do with anything? I’m talking Stanley Cup and you are talking about the All-star game replacement? lol. Entertaining hockey and good for Sanheim but it doesn’t go beyond that. Both Bouchard and Ekblad are better than Sanheim but they picked who they thought would make the best team, not necessarily the best talent and their reasons are their own.
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I literally said that it’s ok to trade or sign the rest of your defense if needed if you have the cornerstones and you went and listed trades and UFAs that were acquired? ummmm .. so thanks for proving my point?
Another aspect that we haven’t talked about is you have to be smart on who these waivers and traded players are that you select. You can’t be trading for or signing Risto or TDA players unless their cap hit and performance are right for your team. Like TDA at $1 mill was a good play for the Hurricanes because he was cheap and Slavin covered up his deficiencies. He was a bad fit for the Flyers because they paid him more than his on ice value, plus traded picks, plus not having a Slavin to help him out. So a team has to good talent evaluators to evaluate what they have, what they need, and what they should spend to acquire them. The Flyers absolutely have none of the above.
What’s the 4 nations have to do with anything? I’m talking Stanley Cup and you are talking about the All-star game replacement? lol. Entertaining hockey and good for Sanheim but it doesn’t go beyond that. Both Bouchard and Ekblad are better than Sanheim but they picked who they thought would make the best team, not necessarily the best talent and their reasons are their own.
Ekblad is a very good all-around defenseman. Bouchard is a very good offensive defenseman. Four Nations was a tournament and the teams were picked by the top hockey guys from the included countries. But I guess they weren’t “good talent evaluators.” You can laugh all you want. All Star game replacement? Now, that’s funny. What does Tony DeAngelo have to do with where the Flyers are at today? He hasn’t played here in three years. Fletcher brought him in. Fletcher, like Torts, is gone.
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Ekblad is a very good all-around defenseman. Bouchard is a very good offensive defenseman. Four Nations was a tournament and the teams were picked by the top hockey guys from the included countries. But I guess they weren’t “good talent evaluators.” You can laugh all you want. All Star game replacement? Now, that’s funny. What does Tony DeAngelo have to do with where the Flyers are at today? He hasn’t played here in three years. Fletcher brought him in. Fletcher, like Torts, is gone.
I never said that they weren’t good talent evaluators. I said their job was to put together what they thought was the best team for the tournament so factors other than just raw talent are in play. There’s only one puck. Maybe they had enough high end offensive defensemen and needed more defensively oriented defensemen. Right shot/Left shot, etc. The same things everyone talks about the Flyers needing up and down the lineup, a good blend that complements each other.
The All-Star Weekend, which took a hiatus in favor of 4 Nations this year, will return at the New York Islanders’ UBS Arena next February. That will serve as a bon voyage event ahead of the 2026 Winter Olympics in Italy, which mark the return of NHL players for the first time since 2014.
It was a one off tournament, which may never happen again, that replaced the all-star game. It was great, exciting and really promoted the game, but ultimately meaningless warmup to the Olympics. In soccer it would be called a “friendly” tournament.
TDA was an example at how poor the Flyers are at evaluating and making decisions regarding players. If you think the current Flyers brass, which included DB, is under appreciated for the moves they make you can certainly attempt to make that case but you’d be wrong. While Fletcher may be gone players such as Drysdale and Risto that he and to a lesser extent DB acquired still remain. Fletch was not a man who went rogue. Players were only acquired if everyone was on board because he was the ultimate collaborator. If you think they have a better process and results now, feel free to make your case but let’s not pretend the Flyers didn’t exist before 10/8/25.
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The All-Star Weekend, which took a hiatus in favor of 4 Nations this year, will return at the New York Islanders’ UBS Arena next February. That will serve as a bon voyage event ahead of the 2026 Winter Olympics in Italy, which mark the return of NHL players for the first time since 2014. The All-Star Weekend, which took a hiatus in favor of 4 Nations this year, will return at the New York Islanders’ UBS Arena next February. That will serve as a bon voyage event ahead of the 2026 Winter Olympics in Italy, which mark the return of NHL players for the first time since 2014.
It was a one off tournament, which may never happen again, that replaced the all-star game. It was great, exciting and really promoted the game, but ultimately meaningless warmup to the Olympics. In soccer it would be called a “friendly” tournament.
You’re actually doubling down on this claim! Hilarious! I don’t even bother watching All Star games any more. Those games are friendly. 4 Nations, and the World Cup games that came before, were anything but friendly. Did you actually watch any of the games? Yeah, we see this kind of hockey in All Star games every year!
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I feel bad for Brink after he had a great game but Drysdale with 0 points and 0 SOG. Sanheim played another 30 minutes tonight. Neither keeper had .900 sv% tonight
Hahaha! .897 for Ersson. Hardly awful. He stopped a lot of pucks. Very disappointed they didn’t steal another point or two these last two games. It was there for them. The reffing tonight and OT goal ruling were trash. Drysdale has been OK. I don’t care about his offense. He looks much better defensively. Speaking of offense, Zeev Buium scored his first NHL goal tonight en route to his first -4 game against the high octane scoring power of Columbus. Defensively, he’s making Drysdale look like Larry Robinson.
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Tocchet and Tortorella coach the game differently, sure. But the decision-making? That’s all too familiar. It arguably cost the team a shot at the postseason in 2023–24, and, more importantly, the team’s young talent is worse off.
Michkov, especially, needs someone who will give him the keys. Interim head coach Brad Shaw gave him them for his entire nine-game stint. Now, it’s potentially back to square one. That’d be a nightmare, given how dominant the 20-year-old Russian already is.
You should never overreact to one game. However, some things that were feared with the Tocchet hire came to fruition in Florida. Can he turn it around, or did the Flyers make another regrettable coaching hire?That was after game 1 but now after game 2 it doesn’t seem like it was a 1 off. Both Michkov and Konecny have seen their minutes crater under Tocchet so far while Coots minutes have exploded to pre back surgery TOI and Sanheim is putting up insane minutes.
Anyway, to soon for overreactions and the Flyers desperately need York back to help Sanheim’s minutes so let’s see what game 3 brings but he doesn’t trust MM or TK so far. Let’s see if Jett draws back to the press box for a vet.
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Hahaha! .897 for Ersson. Hardly awful. He stopped a lot of pucks. Very disappointed they didn’t steal another point or two these last two games. It was there for them. The reffing tonight and OT goal ruling were trash. Drysdale has been OK. I don’t care about his offense. He looks much better defensively. Speaking of offense, Zeev Buium scored his first NHL goal tonight en route to his first -4 game against the high octane scoring power of Columbus. Defensively, he’s making Drysdale look like Larry Robinson.
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Not to turn this into a Jett vs Zeev debate but you did bring him up. Zeev is playing 20+ min a night and QBing the 1st PP unit in his 1st ever NHL minutes. He is going to take his lumps but the Wild think he is worth it for a team that isn’t going to the Stanley Cup this year. His first goal came in his second game while he was QBing the PP. Meanwhile Jett, who is the same age, is lucky if he plays 7 minutes a night every other game? Jett’s played 60 minutes in 2 years, Zeev has played 45 in 2 games. How much PP time did Jett get so far this year? Jett’s made the team 2 years in a row, how long did it take him to score his 1st goal? His 1st points? I’ll wait.
How many minutes do you think Zeev would be playing on the Flyers thin blue line if he was available? I get that you want to die on this hill for some reason but Jett was a mistake. That is on the GM, not the player.
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very torts esque. how long before they alienate him…
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– need to find a way to get your best player on the ice more. why not experiment with MM on the PK. work with him in practice. Hw silly of me as the flyers think they are a playoff team. no need to work on that and take a long term approach.
– the jett was impressive in his 7+ minutes. how long does this experiment last? over or under the 4 games he played last year. with florida on deck he will be in the press bx next game. flyer logic.
– as JJ said, flyers hanging with the best teams. love the “moral” victories 2 games into the season.
– very important point per boucher.
– bad call on the goalie in OT. brutal to me.
– imagine anyone thinking brinks spot was in jeopardy of not cracking the lineup.
– no MM in OT, see above post.
– dvorak with top line minutes. predictable.
– ex selke looking less and les nimble.
– this team is jus not good. need lots of parts to get it on track. dotn see that happening anytime soon.
– LHV with a big 5-2 win.
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I feel bad for Brink after he had a great game but Drysdale with 0 points and 0 SOG. Sanheim played another 30 minutes tonight. Neither keeper had .900 sv% tonight
Hahaha! .897 for Ersson. Hardly awful. He stopped a lot of pucks. Very disappointed they didn’t steal another point or two these last two games. It was there for them. The reffing tonight and OT goal ruling were trash. Drysdale has been OK. I don’t care about his offense. He looks much better defensively. Speaking of offense, Zeev Buium scored his first NHL goal tonight en route to his first -4 game against the high octane scoring power of Columbus. Defensively, he’s making Drysdale look like Larry Robinson.
comparing a rookie in buium to a seasoned very like JD is a tad off base. love your obsession with buium. playing a tad under 25 minutes a night last game. take him and his play over what the flyers have to offer, going forward.
however the chances of the flyers developing buium into a top pair guy are slim. better off for laughtchenko. he bleeds fleyrs and plays flyers hockey.
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I hope eventually we see Grebenkin on the PP as a net front presence. Not sure how Briere is going to resolve this glut at wing, but if the game plan is to be a puck possession team, going to need wingers who can constantly win along the boards and protect the puck. Grebenkin and Foerster are the two best options. Maybe Grebenkin gets more then 11 shifts if the team stops taking dumb penalties, just need to find a way to get him more shifts.
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I hope eventually we see Grebenkin on the PP as a net front presence. Not sure how Briere is going to resolve this glut at wing, but if the game plan is to be a puck possession team, going to need wingers who can constantly win along the boards and protect the puck. Grebenkin and Foerster are the two best options. Maybe Grebenkin gets more then 11 shifts if the team stops taking dumb penalties, just need to find a way to get him more shifts.
makes zero sense to keep both the russian and the jett if going to give them shit minutes. flyers just have the wrong approach. all about the current day and results.
excluding the 4th line, MM has the lowest TOI among the forwards. going to be something to watch going forward with the most overpaid coach in the game.
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comparing a rookie in buium to a seasoned very like JD is a tad off base. love your obsession with buium. playing a tad under 25 minutes a night last game. take him and his play over what the flyers have to offer, going forward.
however the chances of the flyers developing buium into a top pair guy are slim. better off for laughtchenko. he bleeds fleyrs and plays flyers hockey.
The Flyers and a vocal segment of their fans would rather die on the 1974-75 hill than change. Bleeds orange and black and was born to be a Flyer.
Can’t see how anything has changed under DB and Jonesy other than the shiny packaging. What’s inside the box is still the same.
The Wild have been laughing every day for the last 2 years over the Flyers incompetence.
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<p data-userway-font-size=”12″ style=”transition: all; font-size: 15px !important;” data-userway-s4-bigger-text-styled=”true”>I hope eventually we see Grebenkin on the PP as a net front presence. Not sure how Briere is going to resolve this glut at wing, but if the game plan is to be a puck possession team, going to need wingers who can constantly win along the boards and protect the puck. Grebenkin and Foerster are the two best options. Maybe Grebenkin gets more then 11 shifts if the team stops taking dumb penalties, just need to find a way to get him more shifts.
Tippett needs to go. Maybe he needs to play with a real center but the guy just skates and isn’t doing much else
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– as JJ said, flyers hanging with the best teams. love the “moral” victories 2 games into the season.
– very important point per boucher.
– bad call on the goalie in OT. brutal to me.
– imagine anyone thinking brinks spot was in jeopardy of not cracking the lineup.
Hahaha! A point was stolen from them last night due to bad officiating and the Toronto call. I wasn’t sold on a few guys heading into this season, including Brink, Drysdale, Abols, Zamula. At least I named specific names and didn’t just engage in vague general dumping on the team. Three of them have delivered. How is that a problem? How many games last year did Brink look as good as he did last night? If there was even one, he would never ha
comparing a rookie in buium to a seasoned very like JD is a tad off base. love your obsession with buium. playing a tad under 25 minutes a night last game. take him and his play over what the flyers have to offer, going forward.
however the chances of the flyers developing buium into a top pair guy are slim. better off for laughtchenko. he bleeds fleyrs and plays flyers hockey.
The chances of any team getting adequate defense out of Buium any time soon is slim. He wasn’t as brutal last night as he was in his one pre-season melt down but -4’s don’t lie either. Drysdale has a whopping 220 games in, hardly a seasoned vet. MIN seems to be following the “we’re going to outscore our opponents or get blown out at home by Columbus trying” plan.
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I really did not have an issue how Luchanko and Grebenkin were utilized until the third period. The narrative is this weird line “we expect to be better this season, but not be sellers and do not expect the team to be a legit playoff contender”. What better a way to develop young guys who the team is going to need to get better then let play in game 2 of a tight hockey game in the third period. Hopefully it changes as the season progresses, but most hockey HCs seem determined to using the vets even though the team is not good enough to compete over prospects who the hope is to lead them back to contention in the future.
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The Flyers and a vocal segment of their fans would rather die on the 1974-75 hill than change. Bleeds orange and black and was born to be a Flyer.
Can’t see how anything has changed under DB and Jonesy other than the shiny packaging. What’s inside the box is still the same.
The Wild have been laughing every day for the last 2 years over the Flyers incompetence.
Of course you can’t see it because you don’t know what you’re looking at. Better offense, defense and goaltending. Must be overwhelming for you.
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Of course you can’t see it because you don’t know what you’re looking at. Better offense, defense and goaltending. Must be overwhelming for you.
Goaltending has been ok but really not seeing much else. Playing Sanheim 30 min a night with Andrae in the minors doesn’t seem like a long term solution. Sounds like something Torts would do. Tocchet’s lineup decisions are questionable at best so far and he might not be any better than Torts.
The way Rick Tocchet has talked about and used Matvei Michkov early on I think comes from a place of misunderstanding.
Team is 0-2. Michkov has been neutered. Has played 13 and 14 mins. Coach keeps talking about how he needs to play north and says all of the top players do.I don’t know how you can watch Kucherov, Draisaitl, Marner, Kane, Panarin, Rantanen, Strome, Reinhart, Stone, Fox, Boldy, Bouchard (the list goes on) and come to the conclusion that the next development step for Michkov has to be downhill pace rather than leaning into strengths.
I don’t think Scott Wheeler agrees with you.
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