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Tavares will come back to the Leafs and be fine as a 2nd line centre. Especially at a considerably cheaper pricetag.
Tavares will come back to the Leafs and be fine as a 2nd line centre. Especially at a considerably cheaper pricetag.
Tavares absolutely sucks and has flown under the radar for blame because of these persistent roomers he will take a “discount”.
That’s the new level of stupidity the Leafs bloodlust mob has reached. If a bad player who doesn’t help you win convinces you he took a “discount” he becomes a hero. Still a loser, but a hero.
Don’t score in 6 out of 7 games in Round 2? No problem because discount.
On the ice for the most even strength goals against on the team? No problem because discount.
On the wrong side of soon to be 35 and slow? No problem because discount and Leafs pajamas.
Tavares has not and will not be fine as a 2nd line center. At his absolute best, he didn’t help this team win. Now, as he approaches his worst years, he will be totally useless. The money that the Leafs “save” by bringing in Tavares will have to be spent just to counter balance the amount of goals scored against while he’s on the ice. And he doesn’t seem capable of being a positive possession player against a team like Florida in the playoffs anymore either. This means whatever cap space he does take up, as “discounted” as it is, he won’t earn that either.
To actually become a positive on the team, he’d literally have to enter Corey Perry territory of less than 2 million a year and just be off to the side until he’s needed on the PP or select offensive zone situations.
For all the screaming Leafs fans are doing about “change”, they certainly want very little of it to actually happen or be effective. Seems really familiar…
More nonsense from the guy who doesnt know what communism is eh.
For the right price, JT can still be a 50pt 2nd line center or shift over to wing or the 3rd line center role.The ol’ Tavares doesnt help this win nonsense……it was his goal that got the leafs to the 2nd for the first time in decades.
But ok.More nonsense from the guy who doesnt know what communism is eh. -fakechange
More fake change eh?
For the right price, JT can still be a 50pt 2nd line center or shift over to wing or the 3rd line center role.
Oh, 50 points? Wow. For sure we’ll win the Cup now…
3rd line? Yes, of course, genius plan to make the guy who can’t play defense play a shut down role.
The ol’ Tavares doesnt help this win nonsense……it was his goal that got the leafs to the 2nd for the first time in decades.
But ok.The ol’ Johnny Toronto Pajamas propaganda believers are a lost cause. He scored how many goals and points to win games vs Florida? Oh, right, none. He scored one OT series winner in 7 prime years so therefore sign him again in his wheelchair years. It’s like Shanahan never left.
Fake change.
I’d bring him back on a 2 year deal at a cap hit of 5M.
Not to many C out there.
A lot players disappeared after game 4 vs. Florida.I’d bring him back on a 2 year deal at a cap hit of 5M.
Not to many C out there.
A lot players disappeared after game 4 vs. Florida. – DmntdAgree. The free agent market is thin and it would cost more assets to bring in a center via trade. If JT will sign cheap, then sign him, and have him be a C/W like Stamkos. Ideally, he is your slightly overpaid 3C and special teams guy and not an overwhelmed slow 2C who gets caved every game.
But yeah, JT wasn’t why the Leafs lost……he’s also part of why they didn’t win, but you can’t hang the loss on him alone.
But yeah, JT wasn’t why the Leafs lost……he’s also part of why they didn’t win, but you can’t hang the loss on him alone.
He wasn’t the only reason they lost to Florida but coupled with Rielly he was the single biggest contributor to suckage.
He was on the ice for the most even strength goals against among Leafs forwards. He did not score a point in 6 out of 7 games.
He did not deliver in his prime. He’s not worth even 5 million on the down side of his career.
If he wants to play in Toronto no matter what, he needs to play for 3 million or less. He’s not worth a penny more.
Tavares will come back to the Leafs and be fine as a 2nd line centre. Especially at a considerably cheaper pricetag.
tavares will be 3c behind poone jenner👊
tavares will be 3c behind poone jenner👊
I wonder after all these years what Columbus would expect for him in return with only 1 year left on his deal. He missed most of the year injured last year but he would fit nicely with the Leafs on the short term. Long term, who knows what he would need to re-sign.
Jarnkrok, Robertson, Kampf, McMann, Rielly…these guys all can be dangled to make changes.
Rielly for Blueger and Myers.
Jarnkrok + draft picks for McBain.
Kampf, McMann and Robertson for Jenner.Jenner would have to play C if they bring back Tavares as a LW. I don’t think Jenner, by himself, would be able to carry the entire defensive load with Tavares on one wing and Nylander on the other but it would definitely be an improvement. However, I’d much prefer Reilly Smith over Tavares at LW. He’d be cheaper, a far better defensive player and has more playoff success. Can also play the PK and is from Mimico so he’s a hometown kid too. Except he’s an actual winner, unlike Tavares.
Knies | Matthews | Marner
Smith | Jenner | Nylander
Domi | McBain | B. Tanev
Laughton | Blueger | Lorentz
ComtoisOEL | Tanev
McCabe | Carlo
Dumoulin | MyersWoll | Stolarz
I see that type of team far more aggressive, bigger, defensively sound and overall an improvement.
you are going to need to get some players to waive their n-mtc or nmc to which I do not see happening.
you are going to need to get some players to waive their n-mtc or nmc to which I do not see happening.
NTC and NMC are waived every single year. They always have. They always will. Including giant contracts like Karlsson if a 3rd party retains salary, if necessary, which helps some teams reach the new 70 million dollar cap floor without paying real dollars.
When a team decides, this player has to go away, the player is not going to dig their heels in and say “never”. They pick the teams they would accept to.
For example, Rielly. Am I suggesting we trade him to San Jose? No. But Vancouver or Seattle? He would accept. They are capable of making the playoffs and he’s originally from BC. That’s not a scenario where he would say no to.
Same goes for Jarnkrok, Kampf etc. These guys have limited NTC. The list of teams they can be sent to is longer than the ones they can’t.
Players accept trades, it’s just a matter of finding them a place they are okay with going to. It’s a process but not an impossible one.
For example, Rielly. Am I suggesting we trade him to San Jose? No. But Vancouver or Seattle? He would accept. They are capable of making the playoffs and he’s originally from BC. That’s not a scenario where he would say no to. – UG
This is what gets me. For me, this is a huge assumption. Just because he’s from that area doesn’t mean he would want to play there. I get it, playing closer to were he grew up.
Marner did decline to waive his nmc. So players don’t always say yes.Same goes for Jarnkrok, Kampf etc. These guys have limited NTC. The list of teams they can be sent to is longer than the ones they can’t.
This is a no brainer as there are 21 teams they can trade them to. I’d keep Jarnkrok 2.1M for next year for a 2nd/3rd line guy is ok but if you get something better than he could be included in a bigger deal. Let’s say the Leafs do a sign and trade with Vegas Marner 11.5 x 8 nmc + Jarnkrok for Karlsson + Whitecloud. Not saying this will happen or anything like that
Players accept trades, it’s just a matter of finding them a place they are okay with going to. It’s a process but not an impossible one.
I concur
This is what gets me. For me, this is a huge assumption. Just because he’s from that area doesn’t mean he would want to play there. I get it, playing closer to were he grew up.
Marner did decline to waive his nmc. So players don’t always say yes.I don’t think it’s that huge of an assumption. When a player has a career crisis, going back home can help them reset and bring comfort. If he has kids, his family can help raise them. Makes his life easier. Brings familiarity to his life. That’s why I also said Seattle, because if Vancouver doesn’t work, there’s another area that is also close that can bring similar benefits.
For Marner, it was the opposite scenario. He wants to stay close to home, not move far away from it. The Leafs were given an offer, they did their due diligence and asked Marner. They didn’t shop him out of town during the offseason. It’s a different scenario. Marner didn’t want to be a rental, didn’t want to go away from home and didn’t want to leave the team he felt he helped build. Rielly, being asked to waive, is a reset for him, not a last minute decision.
This is a no brainer as there are 21 teams they can trade them to. I’d keep Jarnkrok 2.1M for next year for a 2nd/3rd line guy is ok but if you get something better than he could be included in a bigger deal. Let’s say the Leafs do a sign and trade with Vegas Marner 11.5 x 8 nmc + Jarnkrok for Karlsson + Whitecloud. Not saying this will happen or anything like that
Jarnkrok is garbage in the playoffs. I’m sorry, but he has how many career playoff goals? 5 in 105 games? He is the wrong player for this team. He’s fine in Nashville or Columbus or any other team fighting for 8th place. But he’s not a playoff guy. He needs to go away and be replaced. I’d rather have two guys making 1 million each who throw 200 hits each rather than have Jarnkrok at 2+ AAV. If we have guys who won’t score, at least have monsters who hit.
Marner is not doing any sign and trades. He either re-signs or he leaves with his middle fingers up. Sign and trades happen in the NBA, not in the NHL.
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