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December 12, 2025 at 12:03 pm #54395
yes its me 2050
ParticipantTocchet has only won one playoff series as a bench boss across nine seasons (excluding this one): with the Vancouver Canucks in 2024. That team, mind you, had a 103-point center, an 89-point center, a Norris Trophy-winning defenseman, and a Vezina Trophy finalist between the pipes. There’s an argument to be made that his system limits ceilings.
I understand a lot of people want to write about hockey but if Tocchet’s systems limit ceilings, how did all that happen in Vancouver?
called an outlier.
December 12, 2025 at 12:22 pm #54397FlyerFrank
Participantcalled an outlier.
Tocchet hasn’t limited Dvorak or Zegras, wasn’t limiting Foerster and hasn’t limited a team that is playing .621 hockey. It’s called blogger bullshit.
December 12, 2025 at 12:32 pm #54399yes its me 2050
Participantcalled an outlier.
Tocchet hasn’t limited Dvorak or Zegras, wasn’t limiting Foerster and hasn’t limited a team that is playing .621 hockey. It’s called blogger bullshit.
nah called facts. just look at tocchets coaching record.
flyers being so bad for so long they get excited at the wind blowing, I guess.
how those 4 players making out since that outlier year?
.621 hockey propped up b shootout wins. brick by brick
December 12, 2025 at 12:55 pm #54419FlyerFrank
Participantnah called facts. just look at tocchets coaching record.
flyers being so bad for so long they get excited at the wind blowing, I guess.
how those 4 players making out since that outlier year?
.621 hockey propped up b shootout wins. brick by brick
Bad takes are not facts. Hahahaha. Look at VAN’s record without Tocchet, it’s .403! Look at the .621 win pct with him here. That record is “propped up” by the rules of the game during the regular season. Same rules for everybody, only two teams in the entire east have better records. Those are actual facts.
December 12, 2025 at 1:05 pm #54422yes its me 2050
Participantnah called facts. just look at tocchets coaching record.
flyers being so bad for so long they get excited at the wind blowing, I guess.
how those 4 players making out since that outlier year?
.621 hockey propped up b shootout wins. brick by brick
Bad takes are not facts. Hahahaha. Look at VAN’s record without Tocchet, it’s .403! Look at the .621 win pct with him here. That record is “propped up” by the rules of the game during the regular season. Same rules for everybody, only two teams in the entire east have better records. Those are actual facts.
what was tocchet record in his last season in vancouver? before he quit.
looks like another coach of year award for the below .500 career of one rick tocchet. one more than bill barber.
it is propped up. cant wait until april.
December 14, 2025 at 10:10 am #54793Flyers4Ever
ParticipantNot exactly a high-event game yesterday but they managed to scratch out another point, still in a WC position. Scoring is a real issue for the team, they’re the second lowest scoring team in the Easter Conference, they badly need to draft and develop some high-end offensively skilled players. Specifically at center!!
December 14, 2025 at 10:13 am #54794yes its me 2050
ParticipantNot exactly a high-event game yesterday but they managed to scratch out another point, still in a WC position. Scoring is a real issue for the team, they’re the second lowest scoring team in the Easter Conference, they badly need to draft and develop some high-end offensively skilled players. Specifically at center!!
they are adverse to that, when you look at who they draft. They do not draft those high end types. need those flyer 200 ft players. that is how you win in this league. depth
December 14, 2025 at 11:39 am #54820Flyers4Ever
Participantthey are adverse to that, when you look at who they draft. They do not draft those high end types. need those flyer 200 ft players. that is how you win in this league. depth
LOL – this is completely untrue but not unexpected from you, you’re such a drama queen it’s somewhat laughable, if it wasn’t so pathetic. Briere’s first draft in 2023 they took two offensive kids in Michkov and Bonker in the first round. They also took Barkey that year, he’s small but he’s a highly offensive kid. The year after he was drafted he finished 4th in OHL scoring with 102 points. These are not 200 foot juggernauts, they’re high-end skilled kids.
2024 was a bit of a shit draft year outside the top six kids, they drafted for position there and if you look behind Luchanko and Berglund there’s no one screaming out that they should’ve taken this kid, or that kid. 2025 again they took a high offensive guy in Martone, he finished 7th in OHL scoring with 98 points.
December 17, 2025 at 8:02 am #55226yes its me 2050
ParticipantLOL – this is completely untrue but not unexpected from you, you’re such a drama queen it’s somewhat laughable, if it wasn’t so pathetic. Briere’s first draft in 2023 they took two offensive kids in Michkov and Bonker in the first round. They also took Barkey that year, he’s small but he’s a highly offensive kid. The year after he was drafted he finished 4th in OHL scoring with 102 points. These are not 200 foot juggernauts, they’re high-end skilled kids.
2024 was a bit of a shit draft year outside the top six kids, they drafted for position there and if you look behind Luchanko and Berglund there’s no one screaming out that they should’ve taken this kid, or that kid. 2025 again they took a high offensive guy in Martone, he finished 7th in OHL scoring with 98 points.
Taking MM was a no brainer even stevie wonder could see it (same with martone or if hey took hagans). “Bonker” (another gay flyers nickname) does not project to be an offensive dman at the nhl level. If you paid any attention to his point production, you would know where he accumulated a lot of them and that will not translate to the nhl.
The flyers have a type they prefer. That is a fact. Keep arguing otherwise. Taking a few others who are not that type doesn’t change what I said. Their actions speak for themselves. Go flyers brick by brick.
Per danny:“But like I said, when you’re not spending $12 million on a player, or even two like Edmonton does… Colorado has three or four high-end guys. We’re not going to be built that way. So depth will be important to us.”
December 17, 2025 at 9:36 am #55240Flyers4Ever
ParticipantHow bout dem Flyers!!! Third in the Metro almost halfway through the season, who’d a thunk it. Let’s GO Flyers!!!
December 17, 2025 at 9:50 am #55244FlyerFrank
ParticipantHow bout dem Flyers!!! Third in the Metro almost halfway through the season, who’d a thunk it. Let’s GO Flyers!!!
Not me. I was cautiously optimistic at the start of the season but did not see this coming. NYI has 1 more point, but the Flyers have two games in hand. They have the 2nd best record in the East. Their schedule gets easier the rest of the way. Barring an injury catastrophe, they’re a playoff team.
December 17, 2025 at 10:02 am #55247furio16
ParticipantAs this season progresses, I hope Briere does not pay Dvorak for a career year. Great job by Dvorak taking advantage of his opportunity this season. His career best is 38 points and he turns 30 in February. Dvorak is going to want a multi year deal for his next contract. It would make zero sense to sign an over 30 year old center to a multi year when there already is an over 30 year old center with multiple years left on his contract. Considering this current team is not a real Cup threat, stocking up on over 30 year old center seems like bad business.
From an alternative perspective, that may not be the best move. There are other factors to consider. The players in the room my then look at this type of move very negatively. Sends a bad message all over. Guys like TK, Couturier, Sanheim may then ask to be traded (that may not be a bad thing though you don’t want to come about it that way). Do you think that will be a good look for an organization who preaches culture. Could also affect free agents. Flyers already have a tough time in that department. The Flyers goal is to make the playoffs. They will not jeopardize that by looking to sell any parts off unless it is a straight up hockey trade.
December 17, 2025 at 10:14 am #55255Trox88
ParticipantIdeally I would still like to see the center depth sometime this season as follows- Zegras, Dvorak, Cates, and Couts. Couts as a 4th liner would still get more minutes then Abols right now with trying to protect a lead in the 3rd period. Moving Zegras to center hopefully allows the team to get more then a one goal lead heading into the third period more frequently. I’m not hopeful it will ever happen.
December 17, 2025 at 10:28 am #55257FlyerFrank
ParticipantIdeally I would still like to see the center depth sometime this season as follows- Zegras, Dvorak, Cates, and Couts. Couts as a 4th liner would still get more minutes then Abols right now with trying to protect a lead in the 3rd period. Moving Zegras to center hopefully allows the team to get more then a one goal lead heading into the third period more frequently. I’m not hopeful it will ever happen.
Not happening this season. Foerster had season ending arm surgery on Monday.
December 17, 2025 at 1:30 pm #55310mickel25
ParticipantThis season goes as far as Vladar takes it. If he continues this level of play they will make the playoffs. Lack of skilled center depth and scoring from the defense will kill this team in the playoffs though. Regardless of how good Vladar is.
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