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  • #47789
    Bill Meltzer
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    #48035
    Bill Meltzer
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    #48065
    FlyerFrank
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    We also deep dive into Matvei Michkov’s start to the season on and off the ice after an electric goal vs Ottawa.

    It’s not like Michkov’s rookie year was all roses. He had three different streaks of 6-7 pointless games and was on the ice for a lot of goals against that accounted for his brutal overall -18. But he showed those flashes more often too. This year, he has one 3 game pointless streak but was even during it and has 5 points in his last 6 games and is also even during this stretch. Nothing wrong with becoming a more consistent and defensively reliable player.

    The Flyers goal woes come from a 4th line that hasn’t scored once yet. Grebenkin has one but was stepping up for Foerster when he scored it. You would think they’d have something even accidentally. The D doesn’t have many goals either with four, Drysdale leading the way with 2. I normally don’t care or expect much from those areas but you need something.

    #48437
    yes its me 2050
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    https://www.nhl.com/flyers/news/flyers-farm-report-checking-in-on-2025-draftees

    -martone will be a stud. IMO he iwll be the better overall player and have more of an impact than MM.

    -nesbitt not exactly lighting it up.

    – amico is the6/7th dman and not getting many minutes. he would have been better served playing juniors 1 year getting top minutes then head to college

    – the rest ok starts nothing special so far. see what happens at by the end of the year and the progress made.

    * all except martone are years away if they pan out.

    brick by brick

    #49050
    Flyers4Ever
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    Zegras is going to single handedly ruin my rebuild dreams, what’s wrong with that kid? Didn’t anyone tell him “the plan”?

    #49053
    Flyers4Ever
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    -martone will be a stud. IMO he will be the better overall player and have more of an impact than MM.

    -nesbitt not exactly lighting it up.

    – amico is the 6/7th dman and not getting many minutes. he would have been better served playing juniors 1 year getting top minutes then head to college

    – the rest ok starts nothing special so far. see what happens at by the end of the year and the progress made.

    * all except martone are years away if they pan out.

    brick by brick

    Thanks for sharing that, good read. The future is going to be exciting!! If the Flyers can just follow the lead of teams like Anaheim and or Arizona/Utah, good things will come. Just gotta keep building brick by brick like Anaheim did, and then when the time is right, add some good veterans and a quality NHL coach.

    2015 – drafted Troy Terry
    2018 – drafted Lukas Dostal
    2019 – drafted Zegras & Jackson LaCombe
    2020 – drafted Drysdale (traded for Cutter), Colangelo & Moore
    2021 – drafted McTavish & Zellweger
    2022 – drafted Pavel Mintyukov
    2023 – drafted Leo Carlsson
    2024 – drafted Beckett Sennecke & Stian Solberg
    2025 – drafted Roger McQueen

    Brick by brick they laid down the foundation for a core and then eventually made some good trades and UFA signing, along with an NHL caliber coach. Their current success is 7 or 8 years in the making but they’ve got something nice going on there.

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by Flyers4Ever.
    #49056
    Flyers4Ever
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    I just looked up Anaheim’s lineup to see where their guys were…interesting.

    Chris Kreider — Leo CarlssonTroy Terry

    Cutter GauthierMason McTavishBeckett Sennecke

    Nikita Nesterenko — Ryan Poehling — Alex Killorn

    Ryan Strome — Mikael Granlund — Frank Vatrano

    Jackson LaCombeDrew Helleson

    Olen Zellweger — Jacob Trouba

    Pavel MintyukovIan Moore

    Lukas Dostal

    There’s a lot of “bold” there!!
    *Helleson was acquired by trading Ducks draft pick/player Josh Manson to Colorado.
    *Gauthier was acquired by trading Ducks draft pick/player Jamie Drysdale to the Flyers.
    *Poehling was acquired by trading Ducks draft pick/player Trevor Zegras to the Flyers.

    #49258
    Flyers_01
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    I just looked up Anaheim’s lineup to see where their guys were…interesting.

    Chris Kreider — Leo CarlssonTroy Terry

    Cutter GauthierMason McTavishBeckett Sennecke

    Nikita Nesterenko — Ryan Poehling — Alex Killorn

    Ryan Strome — Mikael Granlund — Frank Vatrano

    Jackson LaCombeDrew Helleson

    Olen Zellweger — Jacob Trouba

    Pavel MintyukovIan Moore

    Lukas Dostal

    There’s a lot of “bold” there!!
    *Helleson was acquired by trading Ducks draft pick/player Josh Manson to Colorado.
    *Gauthier was acquired by trading Ducks draft pick/player Jamie Drysdale to the Flyers.
    *Poehling was acquired by trading Ducks draft pick/player Trevor Zegras to the Flyers.

    How many are top 5 picks? Top 3? Do the Flyers have a young franchise center on a rookie contract drafted at #2 overall? How many of any of those do the Fleyrs have?

    These teams are not the same. Brick by brick my ass. They are a bad team who had little cap space or assets. They rebranded a bad team with several veteran 8 year contracts that hired a fossil abusive coach off his couch so that he could yell at the players and media for 3 years to distract fans. Then proceeded to give out more 8 year contracts. There’s bad with a plan and then there’s the Flyers.

    If they could’ve afforded a Kevin Hayes or another Ristolainen in FA, they would’ve. Good news, this offseason they can afford to hand out more 8 year contracts to vets. Brick by brick.

    #49405
    Bill Meltzer
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    #49421
    Flyers_01
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    https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/flyers_news_rumors_andraes_spot_barkey_bump_chemistry_more/s1_16448_43076698

    But this has been a trend for a little while. Since the start of November, the Orange and Black have a 46.31% expected goal share at 5-on-5. That’s the seventh-worst mark in the league, and their 40.00% goal share further outlines the direness of the situation.

    The Flyers have done well to survive, sitting at 3–3–2 this month, but they’ve only won a single game in regulation or overtime. When shootouts are out of the equation, this team hasn’t been great recently—the kind of stretch that indicates a long losing streak could be on the horizon.

    I still find it hilarious that the Flyers preferred Jett ride the pine in the NHL than playing top minutes in the OHL. Also, Andrae is “earning” his minutes. He more than earned his spot in training camp, especially compared to Jett, yet Jett is the golden boy who could do no wrong. Will their decision making ever improve?

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by Flyers_01.
    #49423
    yes its me 2050
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    I would try a forest – zegras – MM line. I doubt the coach will however. Think Tyson has more ot offer if playing with more skilled players.

    No need not to try something diff and break up the cates line. See above.

    Ex selke has been offering nothing offensively. Not a damn thing.

    The 4th line is once again a disgrace. After all these years they still can’t ice a quality bottom line. Disgraceful. GH looks shot. Should have been moved long before his ext.

    A smart organization would look into moving Dvorak. Since it is the flyers look for an ext before the trade deadline. Term will be the question. Probably 3 or 4 years. 4.5 per?

    Send Russian #2 down to LHV if not going to play every game. Zero need for ND to play at all.

    Seeler is another guy that should be moved. He is playing up in the lineup, not his fault, when he should be a bottom pair dman. Gives you what he has though that doesn’t cut it.

    Good to see andrae get more minutes. Figure out if he has a future role.

    Still laughable MM getting the least top 9 minutes.

    #49451
    Flyers4Ever
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    The rebuild plan is going to a tee!! They’re still slightly competitive enough to draw in ticket revenue, primarily a gate driven league, but still bad enough that they’ll be selling at the deadline to acquire more quality picks and hopefully get into a top three overall selection. It’s a great time to be a Flyer fan.

    #49461
    yes its me 2050
    Participant

    The rebuild plan is going to a tee!! They’re still slightly competitive enough to draw in ticket revenue, primarily a gate driven league, but still bad enough that they’ll be selling at the deadline to acquire more quality picks and hopefully get into a top three overall selection. It’s a great time to be a Flyer fan.

    https://www.hockey-reference.com/friv/attendance.cgi

    fans starting to wake a little.

    #49611
    Bill Meltzer
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    #49614
    Flyers_01
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    fans starting to wake a little.

    https://www.hockeydb.com/nhl-attendance/att_graph.php?tmi=7439

    It’s even more obvious in the year over year numbers. Lowest attendance in 30 years, except for the lockout year. I think they bought the New Error in Orange until Torts lit a match, threw it in the fuel tank and walked away last year. Without all the Torts drama the focus has shifted back to the on ice product that doesn’t have a Bedard type franchise center to promote/build around and the best young player they have, is hardly playing. But they did get bigger to prepare for that deep run.

    Considering how the Flyers are one of the few teams that like to build from the bottom up it is absurd how unproductive they are. That’s multiple flyers coaches/gms who think ND deserves ice time.

    Rebuild over without drafting or acquiring a single franchise cornerstone. Flyers roster building at it’s finest.

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