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The Flyers do need a Top 4 Dman. Hague would certainly be that here but the GKs might have the best Top 4 on D in the league so he won’t be that there. The price tag is the real question and if Vegas is dangling this guy for any reason, the Flyers won’t be the only team interested.
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Love Flyers homer reporters. Want to trade junk AHl guys for a an NHL level player.
If Hague is available, Danny has to be interested. He won’t be alone. I think Hague is a Top 4 guy for a lot of teams out there. To me, purely speculating of course, a Flyers D with Hague looks like this:
Sanheim-York
Hague-Ristolainen
Drysdale-SeelerIf not Hague, they need a guy who can do what he does.
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No issue acquiring him though you will need to give to get. Not sure the Flyers understand this concept
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Hague is a 3rd pair defenseman. Hague and Ristolainen would be a disaster. I’m all for it. Need that high draft pick
I think it was the trade for Hanifin that pushed Hague into the 5 Dman slot. He is a Top 4 guy for a lot of, maybe most, teams in this league and he was a Top 4 guy in Vegas until they got even better on D. The two slots I think the Flyers must fill for opening night are Top 4 Dman and goalie who can play in as many as 50 games and stop 90 percent or more of the shots that come his way. I would give up one of the later first rounders for the right guy who could fill one of those slots. Those picks won’t fill any slots on opening night in October.
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If you think Hague is a top 4 for a lot, or most teams in the league. Then either you don’t know Hague or hockey very well. He is poor defensively and not good offensively. What would better goaltending and a top 4 defenseman do for the Flyers? Put them back in the playoff bubble? Whoopee! They need top draft picks to try and acquire elite talent. They need to tank. Anything else is just more of the same Flyers nonsense leading to nowhere and the inevitable cycle that they’ve been in for about 15 years now.
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If you think Hague is a top 4 for a lot, or most teams in the league. Then either you don’t know Hague or hockey very well. He is poor defensively and not good offensively. What would better goaltending and a top 4 defenseman do for the Flyers? Put them back in the playoff bubble? Whoopee! They need top draft picks to try and acquire elite talent. They need to tank. Anything else is just more of the same Flyers nonsense leading to nowhere and the inevitable cycle that they’ve been in for about 15 years now.
The elite talent they need to acquire is on D and in goal. They can draft scorers. You build your offense through the draft. This is not complicated. You have to get to the bubble to get back to the playoffs. Also, not complicated. You do understand Hague slots behind Pietrangelo, Hanifin, Theodore and McNabb, right? You know who is a Top 4 Dman for the Flyers at this moment? Jamie Drysdale.
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The elite talent they need to acquire is on D and in goal. They can draft scorers. You build your offense through the draft. This is not complicated. You have to get to the bubble to get back to the playoffs. Also, not complicated. You do understand Hague slots behind Pietrangelo, Hanifin, Theodore and McNabb, right? You know who is a Top 4 Dman for the Flyers at this moment? Jamie Drysdale.
No, they also need to acquire elite talent at center. They desperately need a #1 center. When was the last time they did that? So apparently it is complicated for you. No, they don’t have to get to the bubble. That would be the worst thing they could do now. They need to acquire elite talent through the draft. The best way to do that is to draft high. This is not complicated. You do understand that who a player slots behind, doesn’t affect the level of player that he is. Hague is not a top 4 level NHL defenseman. He is poor defensively and offers little offense. He is not a smart move for the Flyers. Develop and play the young kids. This is not complicated
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If you think Hague is a top 4 for a lot, or most teams in the league. Then either you don’t know Hague or hockey very well.
you just couldn’t resist, could you? You simply can’t help yourself…
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If you think Hague is a top 4 for a lot, or most teams in the league. Then either you don’t know Hague or hockey very well. He is poor defensively and not good offensively. What would better goaltending and a top 4 defenseman do for the Flyers? Put them back in the playoff bubble? Whoopee! They need top draft picks to try and acquire elite talent. They need to tank. Anything else is just more of the same Flyers nonsense leading to nowhere and the inevitable cycle that they’ve been in for about 15 years now.
It is crystal clear the Flyers will not and are not going to “tank”. To talk about it is fruitless. They will try to make moves to get better. Time to add per the putz GM. Time to focus on what they will do.
My guess is you have seen Hague play at best a few times and really have no idea who he is just basing in on others opinions.
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What should do is the opposite on what the will do. It really is a franchise that lacks any real plan or long term blueprint to being a successful team.
This 3 headed monster is now in their 3rd off season. Can one honestly say there has been a lot of progress?
Let’s see what the next 5 weeks bring. I myself have very very little faith.
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“Let’s see what the next 5 weeks bring. I myself have very very little faith.”
The Flyers are light years behind the teams that made the conference finals. That’s just reality. If they shore up the defensive game with a couple of shrewd acquisitions and keep drafting and developing their offense, I think they COULD be fun to watch this year and stay competitive deep into the season. The league, as a whole, is not that great top to bottom. There is opportunity for improvement.
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Flyer Frank they were the 4th worse team so they should improve by default. Really doesn’t mean much.
Their drafting leaves a lot to be desired. Then looking at development also not anything to hang your hat on.
The path the Flyers have chosen is a path that will continue to flutter and induce many more years of pain for Flyers fans.
Forget the talent for a second. Look at the Flyers team/organizational philosophy. Do you or anyone believe that will lead to success?
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Forget the talent for a second. Look at the Flyers team/organizational philosophy. Do you or anyone believe that will lead to success?
All of sports is based on wishful thinking. I’m cynical enough to think “believe” should be a very high bar but with a couple shrewd moves, I think this team can improve noticeably this season. Noticeable enough to be pretty entertaining.
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All of sports is based on wishful thinking. I’m cynical enough to think “believe” should be a very high bar but with a couple shrewd moves, I think this team can improve noticeably this season. Noticeable enough to be pretty entertaining.
I don’t see it. This management team has shown me next to nothing to give them any leadway.
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I don’t see it. This management team has shown me next to nothing to give them any leadway.
The top teams in the conference scooped up a lot of points this season. Two teams only needed 91 points to get to the playoffs. That may not hold this year, but if the Flyers can patch together another 10 wins over 82 games, they should make it. Of course, they need to fill the two main holes I’ve talked about endlessly here to do that. I do think that is possible.
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The top teams in the conference scooped up a lot of points this season. Two teams only needed 91 points to get to the playoffs. That may not hold this year, but if the Flyers can patch together another 10 wins over 82 games, they should make it. Of course, they need to fill the two main holes I’ve talked about endlessly here to do that. I do think that is possible.
Do you think other teams will improve or just the Flyers?
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Do you think other teams will improve or just the Flyers?
Some will and some will regress. That’s hockey. The Flyers were, by far, the worst team in the league in save percentage. It wasn’t even close. It’s imperative at least THAT gets a lot better this year. A goalie who can stop pucks and a Top 4 Dman will help that a lot. There are guys who can do that who are available and are plug and play, no waiting for development.
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Some will and some will regress. That’s hockey. The Flyers were, by far, the worst team in the league in save percentage. It wasn’t even close. It’s imperative at least THAT gets a lot better this year. A goalie who can stop pucks and a Top 4 Dman will help that a lot. There are guys who can do that who are available and are plug and play, no waiting for development.
Who do you suggest they pursue in free agency? What about via trade excluded Hague.
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Who do you suggest they pursue in free agency? What about via trade excluded Hague.
Hague is an RFA, but among UFAs, I’d have to give this some thought. There’s a few guys who I think would be upgrades on the Flyers even if the term is only a year or two. I don’t think they’ll go after Provorov. Hahahaha. But, they need a guy who can do what he does.
https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-agents/_/year/2025/position/d/type/ufa
Having taken a closer look, Gavrikov, Lindgren, Dumoulin, and maybe Klingberg (injuries) would be Top 4 guys here. That’s what they need. A defensive Dman who can play 20+ minutes. It’s doable.
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No, they also need to acquire elite talent at center. They desperately need a #1 center. When was the last time they did that? So apparently it is complicated for you. No, they don’t have to get to the bubble. That would be the worst thing they could do now. They need to acquire elite talent through the draft. The best way to do that is to draft high. This is not complicated. You do understand that who a player slots behind, doesn’t affect the level of player that he is. Hague is not a top 4 level NHL defenseman. He is poor defensively and offers little offense. He is not a smart move for the Flyers. Develop and play the young kids. This is not complicated
They are not going to put themselves in a position get high picks. You need to accept this fact. What you want them to do will not come to fruition.
What young kids should they be playing as the cubbard is pretty bare. Grans is about the only one at this time.
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No, they also need to acquire elite talent at center. They desperately need a #1 center.
You expect them to do all that this off season? Acquire a top center, Dman and goalie? They’re drafting their elite talent at center with the #6 overall draft pick. It’s unlikely whoever that is will be a #1 center this coming season. Somebody who knows hockey would know that.
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You expect them to do all that this off season? Acquire a top center, Dman and goalie? They’re drafting their elite talent at center with the #6 overall draft pick. It’s unlikely whoever that is will be a #1 center this coming season. Somebody who knows hockey would know that.
Reading comprehension helps. There isn’t anywhere in my post where I stated, implied or suggested that I expected them to do all that this off season. Instead of questioning if somebody knows hockey, apply common sense first
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Having taken a closer look, Gavrikov, Lindgren, Dumoulin, and maybe Klingberg (injuries) would be Top 4 guys here. That’s what they need. A defensive Dman who can play 20+ minutes. It’s doable.
Maybe Gavrikov can help though he is 29. None of those guys moves the needle in any way. They are not top 4 players who will be here if the flyers ever become contenders
Wouldn’t be shocked to see them acquire Justin Faulk.
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Maybe Gavrikov can help though he is 29. None of those guys moves the needle in any way. They are not top 4 players who will be here if the flyers ever become contenders
I’m not looking to move the needle, I’m looking to move Drysdale, Zamula and Andrae down the depth chart and eventually out of Philly. They are not top 4 players who will be here if the flyers ever become contenders.
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I’m not looking to move the needle, I’m looking to move Drysdale, Zamula and Andrae down the depth chart and eventually out of Philly. They are not top 4 players who will be here if the flyers ever become contenders.
Andrae should’ve already been in their top 4. He has promise and should be getting plenty of ice time
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I’m not looking to move the needle, I’m looking to move Drysdale, Zamula and Andrae down the depth chart and eventually out of Philly. They are not top 4 players who will be here if the flyers ever become contenders.
I don’t see the point in signing fringe guys like you mentioned. Either go out and get quality who will be around for a while or stand pat with what you in house.
Those guys will all want and get multi year deals. I don’t tie myself up for those types. They did that with Seeler and it was dumb.
Can’t wait to see the grand Flyers plan this summer.
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You expect them to do all that this off season? Acquire a top center, Dman and goalie? They’re drafting their elite talent at center with the #6 overall draft pick. It’s unlikely whoever that is will be a #1 center this coming season. Somebody who knows hockey would know that.
This is the 3rd off season this management team has been overlooking. What have they added? They have underwhelmed big time
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I don’t see the point in signing fringe guys like you mentioned. Either go out and get quality who will be around for a while or stand pat with what you in house.
They’re all top 4 guys here and you don’t have to give up assets to get them. So whether it’s one year or two or five, you can make that move July 1. I like Faulk just fine but the Blues won’t give him away. I’ve seen it happen plenty of times: A team adds one right guy to the mix and it literally changes the entire team for the better.
This is the 3rd off season this management team has been overlooking. What have they added? They have underwhelmed big time
Briere came in spring of 23. He inherited a mess. I have high expectations for this off season. They aren’t sitting on what they’ve got now . . . at least I hope not. I think they have two must make moves this off season. Which UFA center do you think they should sign?
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They’re all top 4 guys here and you don’t have to give up assets to get them. So whether it’s one year or two or five, you can make that move July 1. I like Faulk just fine but the Blues won’t give him away. I’ve seen it happen plenty of times: A team adds one right guy to the mix and it literally changes the entire team for the better.
Briere came in spring of 23. He inherited a mess. I have high expectations for this off season. They aren’t sitting on what they’ve got now . . . at least I hope not. I think they have two must make moves this off season. Which UFA center do you think they should sign?
You’ve fallen into the same traps as all the other authentic Flyer fans. Thinking they’re one right guy away or should be hitting the UFA market. That’s the same failed strategies that has the Flyers as one of the worst run teams in all of pro sports and they haven’t been relevant for the last 15 years. By all means, keep doing the same thing. It’s bound to work this time.
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Let’s say they are all top 4 on the Flyers. Adding them accomplishes what? They go from 4th worse to say 8th? What does that do in the big picture? It stunts the potential growth of players on the roster for no real gain.
As far as feee agency I stay away off the top of my head seeing where they are at. They will need to make a trade to address a top 6 center. Will likely have to overpay which may not be bad as need to see the deal first.
Brier was also part of the mess as he was the assistant GM. He doesn’t get a total pass.
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Let’s say they are all top 4 on the Flyers. Adding them accomplishes what? They go from 4th worse to say 8th? What does that do in the big picture? It stunts the potential growth of players on the roster for no real gain.
You can’t have it both ways. Didn’t you say earlier the cupboard is bare on D prospects after Bonk? We agree on that. Getting Drysdale out of the Top 4 needs to be a priority. The only role I see for this guy here is as a protected 3rd pairing Dman who can help the power play a bit. I’m fine with clearing spots for the developing forwards and letting them run. Maybe we can debate about projected lines in some other post. Hahahaha!
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Yes getting JD out of top 4 long term should be the plan. Otherwise let him play top 4 minutes see what transpires instead of a 1 year stop gap Duomolin type. That’s all I am saying.
What will happen is they sign him he plays well then gets a 3 year extension. We know how that ends.
Projected lines doesn’t matter as right now the have no room to add anyone. Forward prospects also pretty empty
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No he shouldn’t. He should be on the 3rd pair where he belongs to see if he has an NHL future. Andrae didn’t show much after a solid 10 games or so.
The sad truth is Andrae is a Top 4 guy here on opening night if the Flyers don’t add on the blue line. Ristolainen will still be out a while.
Like it or not, this is going to be the Flyers Top 6 if they do nothing:
Sanheim-York
Drysdale-Andrae
Zamula-SeelerThat’s why they have to do something.
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The sad truth is Andrae is a Top 4 guy here on opening night if the Flyers don’t add on the blue line. Ristolainen will still be out a while.
Andrae has legitimate top 4 potential while Hague does not. The issue with the Flyers is the mix of players. Ristolainen is a mediocre 3rd pair defenseman. It’s not a loss. They don’t have to do anything. They should be tanking for draft capital.
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You’ve fallen into the same traps as all the other authentic Flyer fans. Thinking they’re one right guy away or should be hitting the UFA market. That’s the same failed strategies that has the Flyers as one of the worst run teams in all of pro sports and they haven’t been relevant for the last 15 years. By all means, keep doing the same thing. It’s bound to work this time.
Yes, the Flyers should break with the past and find a new way to bring in talent besides the draft, trades and free agent signings. They are old, failed strategies.
Andrae has legitimate top 4 potential while Hague does not.
Andrae doesn’t crack the Top 6 on the top teams in the league. You really think he’d play ahead of Hague in Vegas? Hahahaha! He will get games this year. So will Zamula and Drysdale. Hopefully, at least one surprises. The Flyers need that too . . . along with a proven Top 4 Dman.
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Andrae doesn’t crack the Top 6 on the top teams in the league. You really think he’d play ahead of Hague in Vegas? Hahahaha! He will get games this year. So will Zamula and Drysdale. Hopefully, at least one surprises. The Flyers need that too . . . along with a proven Top 4 Dman.
You keep posting anecdotes and don’t seem aware of what kind of player Hague actually is. Andrae has a good level of hockey sense and solid puck moving ability as well as being good defensively for a smaller guy. He is a player the Flyers should invest time in developing rather than pursuing mediocre players without much of a future in Hague
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You keep posting anecdotes and don’t seem aware of what kind of player Hague actually is. Andrae has a good level of hockey sense and solid puck moving ability as well as being good defensively for a smaller guy. He is a player the Flyers should invest time in developing rather than pursuing mediocre players without much of a future in Hague
Your hatred of Hague seems pathological. The Flyers need one Top 4 guy here to upgrade the defense for this season. A few guys could fill the bill, including some guys who are 3rd pairing guys on teams stacked on the blueline. This is simple enough for a relative hockey novice to understand.
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Your hatred of Hague seems pathological. The Flyers need one Top 4 guy here to upgrade the defense for this season. A few guys could fill the bill, including some guys who are 3rd pairing guys on teams stacked on the blueline. This is simple enough for a relative hockey novice to understand.
You aren’t making any sense. My stance on Hague as a player can be supported with facts and data. Meanwhile, your basis for what you think Hague is as a player, is based on where he sits on his teams depth chart. As if that determines what level a player is at. Rather than his actual level of play. Your comment really isn’t judged by an understanding of the game of hockey but rather just by simple common sense. If we hypothetically put Andrae in the same slot of the depth chart on Vegas that Hague is at, does that automatically make him a top 4 defenseman?
Now, I will challenge you to provide some facts and data to support your opinion that Hague is a top 4 level defenseman. I’ll then counter with what have to offer to support my opinion and we’ll see who actually understands the game.
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Andrae has legitimate top 4 potential while Hague does not. The issue with the Flyers is the mix of players. Ristolainen is a mediocre 3rd pair defenseman. It’s not a loss. They don’t have to do anything. They should be tanking for draft capital.
Please define legit top 4 potential. U have become a HF parrot cliff
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Andrae should be in the lineup no doubt in a bottom pair role. He struggled more times than not in his last 25 games after good start. Need to see if he can solve a problem on the cheap.
Will the Flyers show the patience and allow him to lack if a better word learn on the job? Much like Grans the answer is likely no.
They didn’t overpay the coach to allow for that type of plan.
Just think they will have Risto over 5 million. Hague probably over 4. Then Seeler close to 3. Great use of money.
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Andrae should be in the lineup no doubt in a bottom pair role. He struggled more times than not in his last 25 games after good start. Need to see if he can solve a problem on the cheap.
That’s my point! If the Flyers do nothing, Andrae is in the lineup in a Top 4 slot this coming opening night. I’m fine with Andrae filling a 5/6 slot for a low cap hit but he can’t fill two slots. He’s only one player.
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That’s my point! If the Flyers do nothing, Andrae is in the lineup in a Top 4 slot this coming opening night. I’m fine with Andrae filling a 5/6 slot for a low cap hit but he can’t fill two slots. He’s only one player.
York – Sanheim
Seeler – JD
Andrae – ZamulaIf nothing is added. Which will 100% not be the case. I wonder if there are any 5/6 defenseman on Vancouver the coach may covet and look to acquire.
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You aren’t making any sense. My stance on Hague as a player can be supported with facts and data. Meanwhile, your basis for what you think Hague is as a player, is based on where he sits on his teams depth chart. As if that determines what level a player is at. Rather than his actual level of play. Your comment really isn’t judged by an understanding of the game of hockey but rather just by simple common sense. If we hypothetically put Andrae in the same slot of the depth chart on Vegas that Hague is at, does that automatically make him a top 4 defenseman?
Tell me you have no understanding of how depth charts work in sports without telling me you have no understanding of how depth charts work in sports. You do understand Pietrangelo, McNabb, Theodore and Hanifin are all outstanding NHL defensemen, right?
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Tell me you have no understanding of how depth charts work in sports without telling me you have no understanding of how depth charts work in sports. You do understand Pietrangelo, McNabb, Theodore and Hanifin are all outstanding NHL defensemen, right?
Thank you for proving my point. Somehow you think what level those players are, has any bearing on what kind of player Hague can be with another team. Like I said, lack of common sense
Now again, I challenge you to provide facts and data to support your opinion on Hague.
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Somehow you think what level those players are, has any bearing on what kind of player Hague can be with another team. Like I said, lack of common sense
You seem to have Hague Derangement Syndrome. You should consult a professional. I’ve already made my points on Hague. How about Klingberg? He’s UFA and a 3rd pairing guy for Edmonton. He’s playing well. Like some other elite teams, EDM is stacked on D: Bouchard, Nurse, Ekholm, Kulak and Walman. Injuries have been an issue for Klingberg and he is past his prime, which is how EDM was able to add him. He’s a Top 4 guy on the Flyers.
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You seem to have Hague Derangement Syndrome. You should consult a professional. I’ve already made my points on Hague. How about Klingberg? He’s UFA and a 3rd pairing guy for Edmonton. He’s playing well. Like some other elite teams, EDM is stacked on D: Bouchard, Nurse, Ekholm, Kulak and Walman. Injuries have been an issue for Klingberg and he is past his prime, which is how EDM was able to add him. He’s a Top 4 guy on the Flyers.
You haven’t made any points. Not a single one that supports your opinion. Now you’re just making stupid comments. As expected, you aren’t able to support your opinion that Hague could be a top 4 on the Flyers or on a lot of other teams as you have claimed. You’re an empty suit. I have zero interest in bringing on a 30+ year old defenseman for the Flyers.
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Codi Ceci is another can see the Flyers pursuing.
Yes, Ceci fills the slot as well. Without a doubt.
You haven’t made any points. Not a single one that supports your opinion. Now you’re just making stupid comments. As expected, you aren’t able to support your opinion that Hague could be a top 4 on the Flyers or on a lot of other teams as you have claimed. You’re an empty suit. I have zero interest in bringing on a 30+ year old defenseman for the Flyers.
That you don’t understand my points is not my problem. The Flyers need to add a Top 4 dman this offseason. Do you think the Flyers should stand pat on the blueline and do nothing?
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Guys like Ceci are best served on a contender to solidify their bottom pair. Not playing 20+ on a bottom feeder.
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ugh well that didn’t take long. good ol’ HockeyBuzz antics.
MJL telling folks they “don’t understand the game of hockey” (a sport he’s never played) and calling posters stupid is exactly why people are going to stop coming here.
It’s absolutely an inferiority complex with him – the most insecure always screech the loudest.
bravo.
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Ceci playing 20 + a night on the Flyers would be a disaster.
I don’t see how. He was a Dallas trade deadline add and played in their Top 4 to the conference finals. Saw some DAL playoff games and he didn’t stand out one way or the other but I wasn’t focusing on him either. They couldn’t handle Edmonton. That’s no disgrace.
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I don’t see how. He was a Dallas trade deadline add and played in their Top 4 to the conference finals. Saw some DAL playoff games and he didn’t stand out one way or the other but I wasn’t focusing on him either. They couldn’t handle Edmonton. That’s no disgrace.
Dallas is a superior team compared to the Flyers that’s how. He would get exposed on a bad Flyers team.
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Dallas is a superior team compared to the Flyers that’s how. He would get exposed on a bad Flyers team.
Ceci started the season as a top pairing guy in San Jose. So did Walman who is playing big minutes for EDM. As bad as the Flyers are, the Sharks are worse by a lot. Both Walman and Ceci were so badly exposed in SJ that EDM and DAL both gave up 1st round picks to acquire them.
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“You are leaving out a key detail on that Ceci trade and why a 1st went to San Jose.”
So what? Yeah, Granlund is a good player too. SJ got a 1st AND a 3rd in the package. The Flyers still need another Top 4 defenseman by opening night. There are a few candidates and, I’m sure, some others I haven’t thought about.
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So what? You presented it like they gave up a 1st for Ceci alone. That is false.
Adding Ceci alone does next to nothing. Probably hurts more than helps as maybe they improve slightly hurting their draft position while no real improvement towards the end goal.
You’re complaining about a future draft then saying a veteran Top 4 UFA defenseman, who was acquired by a conference finals level team for, in part, a first round pick would actually hurt the Flyers. Any Dman who could play Top 4 here can help the Flyers. Their blueliners are shabby after Sanheim, York and the oft-injured, signed for only one more year Ristolainen . . . who might still get you another pick to continue to draft offensive talent.
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Complaining about future draft picks? Not following you on that.
What does Ceci do to help the Flyers? Go from 4th worse to 5th worse? Unless you’re overhauling the entire D a guy like him makes little sense. He will want a 3/4 year deal from the Flyers for 5 million or not easily. No thanks at this time.
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Complaining about future draft picks? Not following you on that.
What does Ceci do to help the Flyers? Go from 4th worse to 5th worse? Unless you’re overhauling the entire D a guy like him makes little sense. He will want a 3/4 year deal from the Flyers for 5 million or not easily. No thanks at this time.
So you want the Flyers to become one of the better teams in the league without acquiring an upgrade on defense, which the Flyers desperately need, from one of the better teams in the league. Sounds like a plan.
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How I want to the Flyers to become one of the better teams they will not do or even attempt to do.
How the Flyers want to become one of the better teams will not work. That much is proven.
Big difference in acquiring an upgrade and acquiring a difference maker. An upgrade is putting lipstick on a pig at this time. Keeps you stuck spinning that wheel; which is what the Flyers seek to thrive on.
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How I want to the Flyers to become one of the better teams they will not do or even attempt to do.
How the Flyers want to become one of the better teams will not work. That much is proven.
Big difference in acquiring an upgrade and acquiring a difference maker. An upgrade is putting lipstick on a pig at this time. Keeps you stuck spinning that wheel; which is what the Flyers seek to thrive on.
Attempt to what? Tank for the indefinite future? I’m obviously not sure what the Flyers will do this off season. But I think they need to get better and can if they use the main tools available to them, draft picks and cap space, wisely.
The Flyers need five or more difference makers to compete for the Cup . . . and even then . . .
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Attempt to what? Tank for the indefinite future? I’m obviously not sure what the Flyers will do this off season. But I think they need to get better and can if they use the main tools available to them, draft picks and cap space, wisely.
The Flyers need five or more difference makers to compete for the Cup . . . and even then . . . — FlyerFrank
Since the inception of the salary cap, when have the Flyers used it wisely?
Keep in mind, the Flyers have a long history of not learning from their mistakes.
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Since the inception of the salary cap, when have the Flyers used it wisely?
Keep in mind, the Flyers have a long history of not learning from their mistakes.
I think Holmgren managed the cap well for the most part. At the end, he did screw up with Lacavalier and MacDonald. After that, it was Hextall and Fletcher. That was the really bad stretch although Hextall got canned more for rubbing people the wrong way but he was no ace GM in PGH either.
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According to reports, the team see Carson Soucy and the final year of his deal with a $3.25 million salary cap hit as one that could and should be moved as GM Chris Drury looks to sure up the back end of this Rangers lineup that has seen major changes in recent times, notably with the trade of Ryan Lindgren.
Hopefully, no more than a 3rd pairing guy here but he’s apparently available. Would add this guy before Zibanejad who is overpaid, has 5 years left on his deal and his scoring numbers are likely sagging.
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Last thing the Flyers need is another 3rd pair defender.
A 3rd pairing Dman isn’t necessarily that here. They should get an in-depth report on him from Tocchet who Soucy played for in VAN. Regardless, I’m throwing every sleeper name I see out there. I’m pretty sure we agree they need an upgrade on the blueline. Ekblad isn’t signing here. The Flyers need to be realistic. One Top 4 guy is essential. Adding two would be better. I don’t like the Flyers D that much after Sanheim and Seeler is good in his role.
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I hope they do get some combination of Soucy, Ceci, and Hague. Would be par for the course.
10 million for 7 years may get Ekblads attention.
I’d be happy as a clam with Ceci and Hague. Two holes in one off season filled. Might even be overkill depending on Ristolainen. Watching Florida this playoffs, you can see how well they support the puck and watching the Flyers last season, you could see how lacking they were in that too often. The D is a big part of that. Guys who can fill one or two holes on the blueline are available. There are UFAs, teams that are cash strapped. Of course, they could make an offer for Marner . . . .
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I’d be happy as a clam with Ceci and Hague. Two holes in one off season filled
2 holes filled and where does it get the flyers contention wise? Both are going to want 3/4 year deals easy to play for the flyers. They going to contedn in that window? In the long term what do those signings accomplish? all it does is tie up money to keep spinning on the hamster wheel
Tired of wasting money on mid level guys. if going to over pay get top end at this point. ‘Now top end wont want to come here is the problem without a big overpay. flyers may not have much choice to get ekblad (as an example) for 7 years 9-10 million per.
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Tired of wasting money on mid level guys. if going to over pay get top end at this point. ‘Now top end wont want to come here is the problem without a big overpay. flyers may not have much choice to get ekblad (as an example) for 7 years 9-10 million per.
Ceci was a Top 4 guy for a team that went to the conference finals. Ekblad won’t sign here. That’s pure fantasy. Take a closer look at how the current top teams were actually constructed, not how Hextall and Fletcher deconstructed the Flyers.
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Ceci was a Top 4 guy for a team that went to the conference finals. Ekblad won’t sign here. That’s pure fantasy. Take a closer look at how the current top teams were actually constructed, not how Hextall and Fletcher deconstructed the Flyers. — FlyerFrank
Just because Ceci got traded to a contender doesn’t mean he’s a guy who puts the Flyers into playoff contention. Might he improve the top 4? Maybe. I would much rather see a player that moves the needle rather than just another stop-gap guy because the Flyers have nothing in the pipeline that gets them closer to where they want to be.
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you look how they were constructed. are you that blind to see how those cores was assembled? flyers nowhere close to either team in how they were assembled. you live in fantasyland.
keep signing mid level dreck will keep the flyers exactly where they are.
Edmonton has only been a top team the last four years. Florida has only been a top team the last four years. Edmonton absolutely built more through the draft. EDM has two Dmen they drafted, FLA only one. They drafted Ekblad, traded for Jones and the rest are free agents. The Flyers have draft picks to build up the forwards.
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According to a report from RG, the Flyers have shown interest in 25-year-old New York Islanders defenseman Alexander Romanov, a pending restricted free agent known for his physicality, defensive reliability, and emerging offensive instincts.
He would be a Top 4 guy here but you’d have to give to get in a trade.
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