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    Bill Meltzer
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    #20427
    VonZipper
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    As pointed out, what would be best isn’t an option.

    I really don’t think he’s any more ready for the NHL game now than he was at the start of last season, and it’s hard to develop a player at the NHL level if he’s only seeing 10-12 minutes a night, especially if he’s not playing in every game. There’s a lot of potential for a black eye this front office really can’t afford right now… question is, can they resist the temptation?

    While having him play in the juniors isn’t really going to benefit him either, this really comes off as a lose/lose situation in terms of Luchanko’s development.

    #20493
    yes its me 2050
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    As pointed out, what would be best isn’t an option.

    I really don’t think he’s any more ready for the NHL game now than he was at the start of last season, and it’s hard to develop a player at the NHL level if he’s only seeing 10-12 minutes a night, especially if he’s not playing in every game. There’s a lot of potential for a black eye this front office really can’t afford right now… question is, can they resist the temptation?

    While having him play in the juniors isn’t really going to benefit him either, this really comes off as a lose/lose situation in terms of Luchanko’s development.

    He is not good enough for the NHL. Going back to juniors may do more harm than good.

    Send him to Europe to play in Kappenen or Kimmos organization. Though doubt that will happen as that would require thinking outside the box.

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    Bill Meltzer
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    yes its me 2050
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    – What would you do if you were the GM regardless of the pre-season. Unless of course he is just completely lights out.

    – Mentioned this before, why wouldn’t they give some consideration to have him play in Europe.

    – Would the ECHL even be a possibility?

    #23135
    FlyerFrank
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    They have 4 legit NHL centers, but getting the most possible talent into the Top 9 means flipping one to wing or one injury means you’re down to three. That puts Abols or Luchanko into the 4C slot. Center has been upgraded but the situation is still a little dodgy. Not as dodgy as the D, but dodgy. If Luchanko can step up, win a job and stick, it clears a lot up. If he doesn’t, it’s not the end of the world but it looks like the best option.

    #23143
    yes its me 2050
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    They have 4 legit NHL centers, but getting the most possible talent into the Top 9 means flipping one to wing or one injury means you’re down to three. That puts Abols or Luchanko into the 4C slot. Center has been upgraded but the situation is still a little dodgy. Not as dodgy as the D, but dodgy. If Luchanko can step up, win a job and stick, it clears a lot up. If he doesn’t, it’s not the end of the world but it looks like the best option.

    – They are not going to have cates or Dvorak play 4th line center. My guess is Dvorak will on the wing.
    – It is still TBD to see if Zegras sticks as a center. IMO the coach will have a short leash if he even struggles a little. Tocchet needs results.
    – Send the Jett back to juniors. If he makes the team he will get buried unless he just flat out produces. Tocchet will do everything in his power to make the playoffs. Tocchet has other goals that take priority over “developing” the jett

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    FlyerFrank
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    – They are not going to have cates or Dvorak play 4th line center. My guess is Dvorak will on the wing.
    – It is still TBD to see if Zegras sticks as a center. IMO the coach will have a short leash if he even struggles a little. Tocchet needs results.
    – Send the Jett back to juniors. If he makes the team he will get buried unless he just flat out produces. Tocchet will do everything in his power to make the playoffs. Tocchet has other goals that take priority over “developing” the jett

    Probably not, which means there’s a question mark at 4C. Of course, I was suggesting months ago this might happen with Cates, even before they signed Dvorak, and was slammed for it.

    Zegras is sticking at center. He’ll pick up the system, which is not that complicated, he’s a smart player. He has to read and react and support the puck. Tocchet needs to get him wingers. Tocchet can also use Cates or Dvorak on LW, let one of them be the man inside the box and lighten the D zone load on TZ.

    If Luchanko clearly makes the team, why hold him back? Abols did not look great to me last year.

    #23151
    Flyers_01
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    Bill, I generally love your work but c’mon.

    At just 19 years old, Luchanko has already shown flashes of brilliance. He earned an NHL opening night roster spot last season. Later, he held his own during the Calder Cup playoffs.
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    Morever, Luchanko’s late-season assignment to the Phantoms proved transformative.
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    This could be the season that helps solidify Luchanko as the franchise’s next cornerstone along with fellow prospect Porter Martone.

    I’d have to go back to look at what you wrote last year but I don’t think even you thought he forced his way onto the NHL the roster and he was an absolute, unqualified disaster who ended up watching more games from the press box than the ice in his brief 10 game stint. Also, if you thought he earned it last year why would you bring up the possibility him not making it this year? It was a PR stunt from the triumvirate that backfired.

    Nobody in the NHL has projected Jett to be a franchise center or a prospect on the level of Martone.

    Could he be the next Scott Laughton who is with the team 10 years and whose legend exceeds his actual impact because he plays the right way and was born to be a Flyer? Sure.

    As mentioned by previous posters there is no good answer on where to play Jett this year but it would be a bad look for the front office if Jett, who “earned” a spot last year, didn’t make the team this year. Let’s hope he “forces” his way onto the roster, for real this time.

    #23152
    yes its me 2050
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    – They are not going to have cates or Dvorak play 4th line center. My guess is Dvorak will on the wing.
    – It is still TBD to see if Zegras sticks as a center. IMO the coach will have a short leash if he even struggles a little. Tocchet needs results.
    – Send the Jett back to juniors. If he makes the team he will get buried unless he just flat out produces. Tocchet will do everything in his power to make the playoffs. Tocchet has other goals that take priority over “developing” the jett

    Probably not, which means there’s a question mark at 4C. Of course, I was suggesting months ago this might happen with Cates, even before they signed Dvorak, and was slammed for it.

    Zegras is sticking at center. He’ll pick up the system, which is not that complicated, he’s a smart player. He has to read and react and support the puck. Tocchet needs to get him wingers. Tocchet can also use Cates or Dvorak on LW, let one of them be the man inside the box and lighten the D zone load on TZ.

    If Luchanko clearly makes the team, why hold him back? Abols did not look great to me last year.

    that is your opinion and far from a fact.

    pre-season sometimes is fools gold. unless he flat out dominates back to juniors. I have no faith in the coach putting jett in a position to succeed if he makes the team seeing the coach is pushing for the playoffs. he will straddled to the 4th line with less than ideal linemates.

    #23153
    FlyerFrank
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    that is your opinion and far from a fact.

    pre-season sometimes is fools gold. unless he flat out dominates back to juniors. I have no faith in the coach putting jett in a position to succeed if he makes the team seeing the coach is pushing for the playoffs. he will straddled to the 4th line with less than ideal linemates.

    I think my opinions and conjecture will end up closer to being right than your’s. That’s already proving out. Greg Cronin flipped Zegras to wing in ANA. Maybe the Flyers should have hired Cronin. If Luchanko wins a slot on the team, he wins it. It does simplify things up front. They can still do the 8 game regular season look if pre-season isn’t enough. Options abound if everyone comes close to delivering.

    #23154
    yes its me 2050
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    that is your opinion and far from a fact.

    pre-season sometimes is fools gold. unless he flat out dominates back to juniors. I have no faith in the coach putting jett in a position to succeed if he makes the team seeing the coach is pushing for the playoffs. he will straddled to the 4th line with less than ideal linemates.

    I think my opinions and conjecture will end up closer to being right than your’s. That’s already proving out. Greg Cronin flipped Zegras to wing in ANA. Maybe the Flyers should have hired Cronin. If Luchanko wins a slot on the team, he wins it. It does simplify things up front. They can still do the 8 game regular season look if pre-season isn’t enough. Options abound if everyone comes close to delivering.

    already proving out lol. love to hear how that is already “proving” out. you crack me up.

    options abound on the way to the playoffs. tocchet COY. Go flyers.

    #23159
    FlyerFrank
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    already proving out lol. love to hear how that is already “proving” out. you crack me up.

    options abound on the way to the playoffs. tocchet COY. Go flyers.

    The Rick Tocchet Box +1 defense is the way forward. Believe it before it’s too late.

    #23182
    MBFlyerfan1
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    Unless he blows the doors off everyone at camp, he should go back to Juniors. He did NOT accomplish this last preseason. What I saw was a kid who started to get overwhelmed towards the end of camp as teams started to ramp up their intensity, then I saw a kid who was completely overmatched at the NHL level before being benched and ultimately sent down when the team couldn’t hide it anymore. Torts either got entranced by his obvious speed and it blinded him to all the other shortcomings, or the team was trying to save face when they didnt pick Zeev Buium because Andrae was already on the roster.

    He produced 6 assists in the AHL playoffs, though for the most part completely disappeared against Hershey. One would think that a high pick who is supposedly NHL ready would look a lot better than he did when, once again, the intensity ramped up.

    My hope for his is that he somehow gets traded out of Guelph to a team that can contend, where he doesn’t have to be the sole decent player on his roster. This is one of those instances where the 19 year old rule hurts a player. I wonder if Europe is an option?

    One thing for sure is that I don’t think he is NHL ready. Hopefully he surprises everyone and makes me eat my words.

    #23193
    FlyerFrank
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    Unless he blows the doors off everyone at camp, he should go back to Juniors.

    I’m fine with that benchmark. I think it’s at least possible he does that.

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