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  • #24833
    FlyerFrank
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    Go get another cheap 1 year option.

    They might do that too. But Luchanko might be better in the role than either Abols or a cheap one year option. If he is, give him the shot.

    #24838
    yes its me 2050
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    Go get another cheap 1 year option.

    They might do that too. But Luchanko might be better in the role than either Abols or a cheap one year option. If he is, give him the shot.

    The flyers will be a bad team no matter who is the 4th line center. They are going nowhere.

    Why would you want to put your building block cornerstone center who has been hyped up in a position to fail on the 4th line. Need long term view.

    #24841
    FlyerFrank
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    The flyers will be a bad team no matter who is the 4th line center. They are going nowhere.

    Why would you want to put your building block cornerstone center who has been hyped up in a position to fail on the 4th line. Need long term view.

    Mike Richards started with the Flyers as the 4th line center. Of course, he was more than 1 year older than JL is now. I’m not saying it will work, just that if it helps the team, try it.

    #24843
    yes its me 2050
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    The flyers will be a bad team no matter who is the 4th line center. They are going nowhere.

    Why would you want to put your building block cornerstone center who has been hyped up in a position to fail on the 4th line. Need long term view.

    Mike Richards started with the Flyers as the 4th line center. Of course, he was more than 1 year older than JL is now. I’m not saying it will work, just that if it helps the team, try it.

    help the team to get where exactly? how much “help” will he bring playing on the 4th line with 2 slugs who cant keep up with him?

    richards also had a much better/higher pedigree than the jett. not even close really. 4 years of juniors. came off a very good ahl cup run. over a ppg. bad comparison to me.

    #24847
    FlyerFrank
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    help the team to get where exactly? how much “help” will he bring playing on the 4th line with 2 slugs who cant keep up with him?

    richards also had a much better/higher pedigree than the jett. not even close really. 4 years of juniors. came off a very good ahl cup run. over a ppg. bad comparison to me.

    Hahahaha! None of that pedigree nonsense matters. I know you think it does, but it doesn’t. Just more cliches. Was Richards the best guy for that role that season? Things worked out well long term but that 05-06 season ended in catastrophe. Is Luchanko the best guy for that role this season? You claim no but you don’t know. That’s what camp and pre-season is for. That’s what a potential 8 game in season look is for.

    #24862
    yes its me 2050
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    help the team to get where exactly? how much “help” will he bring playing on the 4th line with 2 slugs who cant keep up with him?

    richards also had a much better/higher pedigree than the jett. not even close really. 4 years of juniors. came off a very good ahl cup run. over a ppg. bad comparison to me.

    Hahahaha! None of that pedigree nonsense matters. I know you think it does, but it doesn’t. Just more cliches. Was Richards the best guy for that role that season? Things worked out well long term but that 05-06 season ended in catastrophe. Is Luchanko the best guy for that role this season? You claim no but you don’t know. That’s what camp and pre-season is for. That’s what a potential 8 game in season look is for.

    just more facts. you really are a complete dope. go flyers. go jett. how did the 05/06 end in catastrophe?

    #24871
    FlyerFrank
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    just more facts. you really are a complete dope. go flyers. go jett. how did the 05/06 end in catastrophe?

    They were crushed by the Sabres. They looked awful losing in six. Forsberg and Esche each singlehandly won them a game. They finished with the worst record in the league the next year.

    https://www.hockey-reference.com/playoffs/2006-buffalo-sabres-vs-philadelphia-flyers-eastern-conference-quarter-finals.html

    #24932
    FlyerFrank
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    This just in: Flyers acquire another center to push Luchanko down the depth chart.

    https://www.nhl.com/flyers/news/flyers-acquire-tucker-robertson-from-seattle-in-exchange-for-jon-randall-avon

    #25101
    yes its me 2050
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    what makes peeps think the jett is too good for juniors? not like he lit it up and was the top scorer or what not. what has he done to warrant this narrative.

    #25110
    FlyerFrank
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    what makes peeps think the jett is too good for juniors? not like he lit it up and was the top scorer or what not. what has he done to warrant this narrative.

    The team he plays on is bad. That’s part of the issue. There’s some thinking that he won’t benefit from another year in Guelph. My feeling is, if he beats out the other guys competing for roster spots, he should be with the Flyers. Here are some other guys who were very young when they became NHL regulars and how they did that first year. Not sure how considering this is a problem.

    COUTURIER 12/07/92 10-1-2011 18 Y 10 M 0.35
    PATRICK 09/19/98 10-1-2017 19 Y 1 M 0.41
    LUCHANKO 08/21/06 19 Y 2 M
    ZEGRAS 03/20/01 10-1-2020 19 Y 7 M 0.81
    LINDROS 02/28/73 10-1-1992 19 Y 8 M 1.23
    MICHKOV 12/09/04 10-1-2024 19 Y 10 M 0.79
    RICHARDS 02/11/85 10-1-2005 20 Y 8 M 0.43
    GIROUX 01/12/88 1-1-2009 21 Y 0.64

    #25120
    yes its me 2050
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    what makes peeps think the jett is too good for juniors? not like he lit it up and was the top scorer or what not. what has he done to warrant this narrative.

    The team he plays on is bad. That’s part of the issue. There’s some thinking that he won’t benefit from another year in Guelph. My feeling is, if he beats out the other guys competing for roster spots, he should be with the Flyers. Here are some other guys who were very young when they became NHL regulars and how they did that first year. Not sure how considering this is a problem.

    COUTURIER 12/07/92 10-1-2011 18 Y 10 M 0.35
    PATRICK 09/19/98 10-1-2017 19 Y 1 M 0.41
    LUCHANKO 08/21/06 19 Y 2 M
    ZEGRAS 03/20/01 10-1-2020 19 Y 7 M 0.81
    LINDROS 02/28/73 10-1-1992 19 Y 8 M 1.23
    MICHKOV 12/09/04 10-1-2024 19 Y 10 M 0.79
    RICHARDS 02/11/85 10-1-2005 20 Y 8 M 0.43
    GIROUX 01/12/88 1-1-2009 21 Y 0.64

    He was not and is not this high-end elite prospect who is too good for juniors. Can make all the excuses one wants, he didn’t tear it up or put-up eye-popping numbers. Not some offensive dynamo by any means.

    He was 100% not ready for the NHL last season. He did nothing last season in juniors or the ahl to show he is ready this year. Amazes me people want to fast track this kid. He needs to play above and beyond others to get a 10-game look. Anything else back to juniors.

    The flyers and flyers-controlled media could be doing this kid a big disservice with all the hype.

    #25126
    FlyerFrank
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    Amazes me people want to fast track this kid. He needs to play above and beyond others to get a 10-game look. Anything else back to juniors.

    Who is saying he doesn’t need to win a job? He’s competing with Rodrigo Abols for a bottom 6 center slot. You can make something so simple complicated in your own mind, but that’s the competition. The Flyers have 2-3 slots open up front. Center, for sure and 1-2 wing spots. Luchanko is a center. If he’s better than Abols, he should get the job.

    • This reply was modified 1 month ago by FlyerFrank.
    #25131
    VonZipper
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    The team he plays on is bad. That’s part of the issue. There’s some thinking that he won’t benefit from another year in Guelph. My feeling is, if he beats out the other guys competing for roster spots, he should be with the Flyers. Here are some other guys who were very young when they became NHL regulars and how they did that first year. Not sure how considering this is a problem.

    COUTURIER 12/07/92 10-1-2011 18 Y 10 M 0.35
    PATRICK 09/19/98 10-1-2017 19 Y 1 M 0.41
    LUCHANKO 08/21/06 19 Y 2 M
    ZEGRAS 03/20/01 10-1-2020 19 Y 7 M 0.81
    LINDROS 02/28/73 10-1-1992 19 Y 8 M 1.23
    MICHKOV 12/09/04 10-1-2024 19 Y 10 M 0.79
    RICHARDS 02/11/85 10-1-2005 20 Y 8 M 0.43
    GIROUX 01/12/88 1-1-2009 21 Y 0.64

    Is that going to be the excuse used if he makes the Flyers this year and doesn’t perform?

    Is 8 to 12 minutes a night with Hathaway on one wing and a rotation that would include DesLauriers on the other wing conducive to developing an offensive game? In the situation proposed, I have serious doubts he even comes close to Couturier’s production in your chart above. And that doesn’t even bring in the question if he’s good enough defensively to play against NHL competition (something that wasn’t answered during his brief 4 game look last season).

    Now granted, he may not play on the 4th line all season (if he makes the team), but how much confidence will the Flyers have moving a kid up in the lineup if he doesn’t produce (offensively or defensively), and what does a lack of success at the top level (even when considering a minor role) do to the player’s confidence? And if he doesn’t produce, what options do they have other than to hope he eventually works things out or outright benching him?

    The Flyers really painted themselves in a corner due to organizational panic after the Gauthier fiasco. They rushed to sign Luchanko, then allowed a coach that obviously had no plan to play the kid to force him onto the NHL roster, limiting future options for the player’s development. Doesn’t seem overly bright for a team hoping he’ll be a big part of their future.

    With all of that said… if he does make the Flyers this year, my expectations are very low. Will an already irrational fan base see things the same way?

    #25134
    yes its me 2050
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    Amazes me people want to fast track this kid. He needs to play above and beyond others to get a 10-game look. Anything else back to juniors.

    Who is saying he doesn’t need to win a job? He’s competing with Rodrigo Abols for a bottom 6 center slot. You can make something so simple complicated in your own mind, but that’s the competition. The Flyers have 2-3 slots open up front. Center, for sure and 1-2 wing spots. Luchanko is a center. If he’s better than Abols, he should get the job.

    Being better than abols means jack shit. He should go back to juniors to work on his offensive game. Stop thinking short term. Agin playing 4th line with 2 slugs will not help him develop an offensive game. Of which I already have doubts about at the nhl level.

    Tk, ex selke, tippet, the forest, cates, brink, zegras, mm, Dvorak, gh, and nd.

    Maybe spots 2 as nd should not play. wont se shocked they give a pto to a free agent center or guy like motte

    #25141
    FlyerFrank
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    Is 8 to 12 minutes a night with Hathaway on one wing and a rotation that would include DesLauriers on the other wing conducive to developing an offensive game? Now granted, he may not play on the 4th line all season (if he makes the team), but how much confidence will the Flyers have moving a kid up in the lineup if he doesn’t produce (offensively or defensively), and what does a lack of success at the top level (even when considering a minor role) do to the player’s confidence? And if he doesn’t produce, what options do they have other than to hope he eventually works things out or outright benching him?

    Being better than abols means jack shit. He should go back to juniors to work on his offensive game. Stop thinking short term. Agin playing 4th line with 2 slugs will not help him develop an offensive game. Of which I already have doubts about at the nhl level.

    Why the focus on scoring? He wouldn’t need to score in a depth role. Just don’t get your brains beat out at 5X5. If he can’t avoid that, then yes, back to the OHL. Guelph named a new captain so JL’s return there seems less likely now. Doesn’t change that the Flyers need another center. The advantage with JL is, once he wins a forward spot, the Flyers have a spot well filled for a few years. Yeah, JL will move up the lineup. The group of Couturier, Zegras, Cates and Dvorak won’t each play all 82 games. That’s kind of the point. The Flyers have 4 proven NHL centers. That’s it! That’s the best argument for giving JL a legit shot.

    • This reply was modified 1 month ago by FlyerFrank.
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